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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165444 - 08/30/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Theres no archaeological evidence of Atlantis, theres no documentation from any other culture about them, just myths and legends. Fuck, we can probably blame Plato for even making people think it existed by using it as an allegorical 'perfect state'. You've provided little to no even vaguely convincing evidence of ANYTHING you've claimed so far while making a lot of assumptions that you can't possibly hope to back up (all creation myths springing from the same source....:lolsy:)




"No evidence?"  Are you sure about that?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070919-sunken-city_2.html

And

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0528_020528_sunkencities.html


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22165460 - 08/30/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

People like you clearly don't understand how academics work. They have absolutely NOTHING to gain by sticking to a 'mainstream' narrative when it can be PROVEN that the 'mainstream' narrative didn't happen. If Eisenhower's Death Camps existed, they'd be well known and well documented. If any large scale civilization were to have existed before the civilizations started appearing in Mesopotamia, the Indus Valley, and around the Yellow River we would've found some sign of their presence. Whether it be ruined structures, pottery, written documentation, anything...and if you're honestly trying to say that EVERY civilization picked up their mythology and some of their tech from some lost precursor and then somehow forgot they existed entirely/NEVER recorded them in written record or in oral tradition...well then you're even less intelligent than I suspected.


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Given the number of astronauts, military pilots, military leaders and Top Secret UFO files made public from most nations except the US over the last 20 years, there is a fair amount of evidence that the official US story on UFO's is utter and complete bullshit.  The Secretary of Defense from Canada is on the record for saying there's a massive UFO coverup.  Clinton and Reagan were both UFO fanatics.  John Pedestal is the nation's #1 visible leader advocating full disclosure.  The evidence that the truth about UFO's on this planet is a carefully guarded secret is overwhelming.

So, again, your argument falls apart.  It is impossible for a scientist to study this topic scientifically because all the government data and information on it is Top Secret and not available for research.





:lol: Your argument also fails by saying 'WE CAN'T KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S ALL HIDDEN FROM US'. You're admitting that you've got just as little proof as anybody else and you're relying on a bunch of anecdotal evidence from people with ZERO documentation to back it up.
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Cj-B said:
Theres no archaeological evidence of Atlantis, theres no documentation from any other culture about them, just myths and legends. Fuck, we can probably blame Plato for even making people think it existed by using it as an allegorical 'perfect state'. You've provided little to no even vaguely convincing evidence of ANYTHING you've claimed so far while making a lot of assumptions that you can't possibly hope to back up (all creation myths springing from the same source....:lolsy:)




"No evidence?"  Are you sure about that?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070919-sunken-city_2.html




You're gonna have to try harder then a pisspoor 2 page National Geographic article from a decade ago (thats filled with speculation at that)

Also http://www.yonaguni.ws


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22165512 - 08/30/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Starting to think you and enlil work for the same contractor pris . That's crazy thinking though there's no such thing as shills right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphinx_water_erosion_hypothesis This is where it says the enclosing walls. Apparently it's not too knew of a theory either and they been arguing about this shit for a while. I personally see the egyptologists as the kind where if something were to change the written history they would fight tooth and nail because it was not what they were taught of what they thing. It's partially and ego thing of being wrong after claiming to be right for so long. Shit like that will make people think twice about your lifes work.





It's pretty hilarious that the wikipedia article you linked to support your claim actually proves contradicts you several times.

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Zahi Hawass, former Egyptian minister of state for antiquities affairs and secretary-general of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, was asked in an interview on the PBS series NOVA if it was possible that a more ancient civilization might have sculpted the Sphinx. Hawass replied: "Of course it is not possible for one reason …. No single artifact, no single inscription, or pottery, or anything has been found until now, in any place to predate the Egyptian civilization more than 5,000 years ago."[17] This reasoning and conclusion was supported in a similar NOVA interview by Mark Lehner, another senior Egyptologist.[18] Other archaeologists who have made similar criticisms include Kenneth Feder.[19]





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Sure did. Bunch of words like "may" and "proposed an alternative theory" Your argument carries as much weight as mine sir. Did you read them?

"Haloclasty is rejected as an explanation for the vertical erosion features by Schoch et al. because it doesn’t explain all the visible evidence, namely that the water erosion features are not evenly distributed, being concentrated in those areas that would have been particularly exposed to running water, whereas the haloclasty process should have operated evenly on all exposed limestone surfaces.[10] Similarly, Schoch points out that the alternative explanations do not account for the absence of similar weathering patterns on other rock surfaces in the Giza pyramid complex which were cut from the same limestone beds."





Whoa. Interesting that YOUR quote is different than the one on the wiki page that you linked. One might think you're being disingenuous...the actual quote was
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One of the alternative erosion mechanisms proposed is called haloclasty. Moisture on limestone will dissolve salts, which are then carried by percolating moisture into the spaces inside the porous limestone. When the moisture dries the salt crystallises, and the expanding crystals cause a fine layer of surface limestone to flake off. It is accepted by Schoch et al. that this mechanism is evident in many places on the Giza Plateau. One proponent of the haloclasty process is Dr James A. Harrell of the University of Toledo, who advocates that the deep erosion crevices were caused by the haloclasty process being driven by moisture in the sand that covered the carved rock for much of the time since it was exposed by quarrying.[10] Lal Gauri et al.[25] also favour the haloclasty process to explain the erosion features, but have theorised that the weathering was driven by moisture deriving from atmospheric precipitation such as dew.




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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165517 - 08/30/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am an Atlantean, where's your proof now!?


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165529 - 08/30/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Cj-B said:
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Mescalean said:
Starting to think you and enlil work for the same contractor pris . That's crazy thinking though there's no such thing as shills right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphinx_water_erosion_hypothesis This is where it says the enclosing walls. Apparently it's not too knew of a theory either and they been arguing about this shit for a while. I personally see the egyptologists as the kind where if something were to change the written history they would fight tooth and nail because it was not what they were taught of what they thing. It's partially and ego thing of being wrong after claiming to be right for so long. Shit like that will make people think twice about your lifes work.





It's pretty hilarious that the wikipedia article you linked to support your claim actually proves contradicts you several times.

Quote:

Zahi Hawass, former Egyptian minister of state for antiquities affairs and secretary-general of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, was asked in an interview on the PBS series NOVA if it was possible that a more ancient civilization might have sculpted the Sphinx. Hawass replied: "Of course it is not possible for one reason …. No single artifact, no single inscription, or pottery, or anything has been found until now, in any place to predate the Egyptian civilization more than 5,000 years ago."[17] This reasoning and conclusion was supported in a similar NOVA interview by Mark Lehner, another senior Egyptologist.[18] Other archaeologists who have made similar criticisms include Kenneth Feder.[19]





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Mescalean said:

Sure did. Bunch of words like "may" and "proposed an alternative theory" Your argument carries as much weight as mine sir. Did you read them?

"Haloclasty is rejected as an explanation for the vertical erosion features by Schoch et al. because it doesn’t explain all the visible evidence, namely that the water erosion features are not evenly distributed, being concentrated in those areas that would have been particularly exposed to running water, whereas the haloclasty process should have operated evenly on all exposed limestone surfaces.[10] Similarly, Schoch points out that the alternative explanations do not account for the absence of similar weathering patterns on other rock surfaces in the Giza pyramid complex which were cut from the same limestone beds."





Whoa. Interesting that YOUR quote is different than the one on the wiki page that you linked. One might think you're being disingenuous...the actual quote was
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One of the alternative erosion mechanisms proposed is called haloclasty. Moisture on limestone will dissolve salts, which are then carried by percolating moisture into the spaces inside the porous limestone. When the moisture dries the salt crystallises, and the expanding crystals cause a fine layer of surface limestone to flake off. It is accepted by Schoch et al. that this mechanism is evident in many places on the Giza Plateau. One proponent of the haloclasty process is Dr James A. Harrell of the University of Toledo, who advocates that the deep erosion crevices were caused by the haloclasty process being driven by moisture in the sand that covered the carved rock for much of the time since it was exposed by quarrying.[10] Lal Gauri et al.[25] also favour the haloclasty process to explain the erosion features, but have theorised that the weathering was driven by moisture deriving from atmospheric precipitation such as dew.








You need to take a reading comprehension class then and re-read the article, copied and pasted it verbatim. I've seen you post some stupid shit in the past so I just scroll past your shit in this thread. Just not someones opinion I can even respect on this subject. I'm just argueing with pris because I know deep down he looooooovvvveeesss to argue and is getting gitty as the thread goes on. I'm doing a good deed. He'll prob be in the mood for some whiskey and whores soon enough


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22165535 - 08/30/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly though I don't even know how this thread got so fucking long.  As far as I'm aware (which, considering my voracious reading and love of history, I'd say is more than most people) the pyramids are some of the most well-documented, well understood monuments of such remote antiquity. We have a whole range of archaeological and textual evidence. We know who built them, we're pretty sure we know why they built them, we are pretty well versed in how they built them. Details of the overall construction of the Great Pyramid remain debated but we know what tools they used, where the workers camped, where the stone was quarried from and so on. Fuck we've even got the archaeological record of different forms of pyramid building from  the flat topped mastaba tombs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastaba to step pyramids like Djoser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Djoser to this weird half step/half smooth sided pyramid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bent_Pyramid to the smooth sided ones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Pyramid

Any theory that the ancient Egyptians didn't build the pyramids or the sphinx is pretty much completely unsupported by any good evidence whatsoever.


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You need to take a reading comprehension class then and re-read the article, copied and pasted it verbatim. I've seen you post some stupid shit in the past so I just scroll past your shit in this thread. Just not someones opinion I can even respect on this subject. I'm just argueing with pris because I know deep down he looooooovvvveeesss to argue and is getting gitty as the thread goes on. I'm doing a good deed. He'll prob be in the mood for some whiskey and whores soon enough





Ignores the obvious lies he was called out on and replies with ad hominems. Good job Mescalean. You're doing God's work.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165543 - 08/30/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:lol: Your argument also fails by saying 'WE CAN'T KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S ALL HIDDEN FROM US'. You're admitting that you've got just as little proof as anybody else and you're relying on a bunch of anecdotal evidence from people with ZERO documentation to back it up.
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Except, of course, we know a lot about this.  Most countries have signed on to the disclosure project and turned over thousands of previously classified military files of UFO encounters.  A lot of information is out there ... An ex-secretary of Defense from Canada is on the record that there's a massive government cover up going on.  Thousands of documents have been uncovered.

Admit it, you don't know jack shit about the topic.  "Zero documentation?"  LMAO.  There's a mountain of it.  Here's a great place for you to start.  No documents?  LOL

http://www.afterdisclosure.com/2012/07/real-majestic-twelve.html

http://www.colinandrews.net/UFO-BrazilReleaseDocuments.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/german-government-forced-release-top-6040703

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread590683/pg1

Get serious, bud. The UFO documentation is overwhelming at this point.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165573 - 08/30/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Honestly though I don't even know how this thread got so fucking long.  As far as I'm aware (which, considering my voracious reading and love of history, I'd say is more than most people) the pyramids are some of the most well-documented, well understood monuments of such remote antiquity. We have a whole range of archaeological and textual evidence. We know who built them, we're pretty sure we know why they built them, we are pretty well versed in how they built them. Details of the overall construction of the Great Pyramid remain debated but we know what tools they used, where the workers camped, where the stone was quarried from and so on. Fuck we've even got the archaeological record of different forms of pyramid building from  the flat topped mastaba tombs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastaba to step pyramids like Djoser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Djoser to this weird half step/half smooth sided pyramid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bent_Pyramid to the smooth sided ones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Pyramid

Any theory that the ancient Egyptians didn't build the pyramids or the sphinx is pretty much completely unsupported by any good evidence whatsoever.


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You need to take a reading comprehension class then and re-read the article, copied and pasted it verbatim. I've seen you post some stupid shit in the past so I just scroll past your shit in this thread. Just not someones opinion I can even respect on this subject. I'm just argueing with pris because I know deep down he looooooovvvveeesss to argue and is getting gitty as the thread goes on. I'm doing a good deed. He'll prob be in the mood for some whiskey and whores soon enough





Ignores the obvious lies he was called out on and replies with ad hominems. Good job Mescalean. You're doing God's work.






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphinx_water_erosion_hypothesis#Response_of_other_geologists

Haloclasty is rejected as an explanation for the vertical erosion features by Schoch et al. because it doesn’t explain all the visible evidence, namely that the water erosion features are not evenly distributed, being concentrated in those areas that would have been particularly exposed to running water, whereas the haloclasty process should have operated evenly on all exposed limestone surfaces.[10] Similarly, Schoch points out that the alternative explanations do not account for the absence of similar weathering patterns on other rock surfaces in the Giza pyramid complex which were cut from the same limestone beds.

Lol exactly what I posted its still there. nice try though. This is why I don't take you seriously what so ever as a poster.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22165601 - 08/30/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
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Cj-B said:

:lol: Your argument also fails by saying 'WE CAN'T KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S ALL HIDDEN FROM US'. You're admitting that you've got just as little proof as anybody else and you're relying on a bunch of anecdotal evidence from people with ZERO documentation to back it up.
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KauaiOrca said:






Except, of course, we know a lot about this.  Most countries have signed on to the disclosure project and turned over thousands of previously classified military files of UFO encounters.  A lot of information is out there ... An ex-secretary of Defense from Canada is on the record that there's a massive government cover up going on.  Thousands of documents have been uncovered.

Admit it, you don't know jack shit about the topic.  "Zero documentation?"  LMAO.  There's a mountain of it.  Here's a great place for you to start.  No documents?  LOL

http://www.afterdisclosure.com/2012/07/real-majestic-twelve.html

http://www.colinandrews.net/UFO-BrazilReleaseDocuments.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/german-government-forced-release-top-6040703

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread590683/pg1

Get serious, bud. The UFO documentation is overwhelming at this point.




Overwhelming with anecdotal horseshit. The Mirror article is worthless. The colin andrews sites only has reports of sightings (which are useless, since witness testimony is one of the most notoriously unreliable methods of evidence gathering), The majestic 12 site is questionable already having taken its name from a fucking video game about conspiracy theories but only lists documents which are, again, witness testimony and unconfirmed reports. Using scraps of texts that support your claim or the fact that militaries investigate UFOs do not for evidence make.
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Honestly though I don't even know how this thread got so fucking long.  As far as I'm aware (which, considering my voracious reading and love of history, I'd say is more than most people) the pyramids are some of the most well-documented, well understood monuments of such remote antiquity. We have a whole range of archaeological and textual evidence. We know who built them, we're pretty sure we know why they built them, we are pretty well versed in how they built them. Details of the overall construction of the Great Pyramid remain debated but we know what tools they used, where the workers camped, where the stone was quarried from and so on. Fuck we've even got the archaeological record of different forms of pyramid building from  the flat topped mastaba tombs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastaba to step pyramids like Djoser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Djoser to this weird half step/half smooth sided pyramid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bent_Pyramid to the smooth sided ones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Pyramid

Any theory that the ancient Egyptians didn't build the pyramids or the sphinx is pretty much completely unsupported by any good evidence whatsoever.


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You need to take a reading comprehension class then and re-read the article, copied and pasted it verbatim. I've seen you post some stupid shit in the past so I just scroll past your shit in this thread. Just not someones opinion I can even respect on this subject. I'm just argueing with pris because I know deep down he looooooovvvveeesss to argue and is getting gitty as the thread goes on. I'm doing a good deed. He'll prob be in the mood for some whiskey and whores soon enough





Ignores the obvious lies he was called out on and replies with ad hominems. Good job Mescalean. You're doing God's work.






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphinx_water_erosion_hypothesis#Response_of_other_geologists

Haloclasty is rejected as an explanation for the vertical erosion features by Schoch et al. because it doesn’t explain all the visible evidence, namely that the water erosion features are not evenly distributed, being concentrated in those areas that would have been particularly exposed to running water, whereas the haloclasty process should have operated evenly on all exposed limestone surfaces.[10] Similarly, Schoch points out that the alternative explanations do not account for the absence of similar weathering patterns on other rock surfaces in the Giza pyramid complex which were cut from the same limestone beds.

Lol exactly what I posted its still there. nice try though. This is why I don't take you seriously what so ever as a poster.




I'll admit my fault here, the part you quoted was immediately below the part that I quoted. Didn't notice til I had already posted and went back to read it again. That being said, it hardly proves that the Sphinx was built by a precursor to the Egyptians...especially since Schoch is fairly well known for promoting other pseudoscientific bullshit like parapsychology or claiming that some apocalyptic catastrophe destroyed the original precursor civilization.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165612 - 08/30/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Overwhelming with anecdotal horseshit. The Mirror article is worthless. The colin andrews sites only has reports of sightings (which are useless, since witness testimony is one of the most notoriously unreliable methods of evidence gathering), The majestic 12 site is questionable already having taken its name from a fucking video game about conspiracy theories but only lists documents which are, again, witness testimony and unconfirmed reports. Using scraps of texts that support your claim or the fact that militaries investigate UFOs do not for evidence make.
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LMAO!!!  Official Air Force documents "anecdotal evidence only."  You're in denial. 

Why would the Secretary of Defense of Canada admit a massive UFO cover up?  Why would astronauts admit the cover up?

You have no idea what you're talking about.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165632 - 08/30/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

apocalyptic catastrophe? You act like its a rarity for space junk to hit other heavenly bodies. or tsunamis http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42072469/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/lost-city-atlantis-believed-found-spain/#.VeOSKvlViko


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22165653 - 08/30/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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apocalyptic catastrophe? You act like its a rarity for space junk to hit other heavenly bodies. or tsunamis http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42072469/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/lost-city-atlantis-believed-found-spain/#.VeOSKvlViko





One that conveniently wipes out whats commonly asserted to be a worldwide civilization (IE: Crackpots claiming that because pyramids occur all over the world that they must've come from a common ancestor civilization) to the extent that we've got no documentation or archaeological evidence for their existence but leaves the Earth perfectly intact for a bunch of mudmen to crawl out of the river valleys where recorded civilization begins? :lol:


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165660 - 08/30/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The majestic 12 site is questionable already having taken its name from a fucking video game about conspiracy theories but only lists documents which are, again, witness testimony and unconfirmed reports.






Richard Dolan can hardly be called a casual researcher.  Why don't you actually look at the link and look at those documents which are the 12 most important documents on the topic.

Ignore the evidence if you want, it shows you're intellectually lazy.  Dolan has done the research and homework.

http://www.afterdisclosure.com/2012/07/real-majestic-twelve.html


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22165667 - 08/30/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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apocalyptic catastrophe? You act like its a rarity for space junk to hit other heavenly bodies. or tsunamis http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42072469/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/lost-city-atlantis-believed-found-spain/#.VeOSKvlViko





One that conveniently wipes out whats commonly asserted to be a worldwide civilization (IE: Crackpots claiming that because pyramids occur all over the world that they must've come from a common ancestor civilization) to the extent that we've got no documentation or archaeological evidence for their existence but leaves the Earth perfectly intact for a bunch of mudmen to crawl out of the river valleys where recorded civilization begins? :lol:




so what is your explanation for the same structures being present around the world and "the same" (in quotations because we both know greek myths will differ from hindu obviously) legends. Keep in mind continents apart. No contact.
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The majestic 12 site is questionable already having taken its name from a fucking video game about conspiracy theories but only lists documents which are, again, witness testimony and unconfirmed reports.






Richard Dolan can hardly be called a casual researcher.  Why don't you actually look at the link and look at those documents which are the 12 most important documents on the topic.

Ignore the evidence if you want, it shows you're intellectually lazy.  Dolan has done the research and homework.

http://www.afterdisclosure.com/2012/07/real-majestic-twelve.html





also not taken from a video game but an actual organization within the US military curing the cold war era working over project blue book.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22165704 - 08/30/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Also if none of this disclosure stuff has to do with religion then why the fuck is it the Vatican who is in charge of disclosure?


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22165706 - 08/30/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Overwhelming with anecdotal horseshit. The Mirror article is worthless. The colin andrews sites only has reports of sightings (which are useless, since witness testimony is one of the most notoriously unreliable methods of evidence gathering), The majestic 12 site is questionable already having taken its name from a fucking video game about conspiracy theories but only lists documents which are, again, witness testimony and unconfirmed reports. Using scraps of texts that support your claim or the fact that militaries investigate UFOs do not for evidence make.
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LMAO!!!  Official Air Force documents "anecdotal evidence only."  You're in denial. 

Why would the Secretary of Defense of Canada admit a massive UFO cover up?  Why would astronauts admit the cover up?

You have no idea what you're talking about.





Because they have a political or financial agenda that would provide them a massive windfall if people were to believe it? Those 'official air force documents' are hardly evidence either. The notable thing about all of the ones you linked were that none of them had any conclusive evidence of them being extraterrestrial in origin. No photos. No parts from these supposed UFOs. No aliens. No nothing besides a bunch of low ranking air force base grunts (most of whom probably didn't have a particularly high level of education past highschool) and the commanding generals report is worthless as well due to the highly compartmentalized nature of military intelligence. High ranking officers aren't by any means given need to know clearance across the board.
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apocalyptic catastrophe? You act like its a rarity for space junk to hit other heavenly bodies. or tsunamis http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42072469/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/lost-city-atlantis-believed-found-spain/#.VeOSKvlViko





One that conveniently wipes out whats commonly asserted to be a worldwide civilization (IE: Crackpots claiming that because pyramids occur all over the world that they must've come from a common ancestor civilization) to the extent that we've got no documentation or archaeological evidence for their existence but leaves the Earth perfectly intact for a bunch of mudmen to crawl out of the river valleys where recorded civilization begins? :lol:




so what is your explanation for the same structures being present around the world and "the same" (in quotations because we both know greek myths will differ from hindu obviously) legends. Keep in mind continents apart. No contact.
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KauaiOrca said:
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Cj-B said:

The majestic 12 site is questionable already having taken its name from a fucking video game about conspiracy theories but only lists documents which are, again, witness testimony and unconfirmed reports.






Richard Dolan can hardly be called a casual researcher.  Why don't you actually look at the link and look at those documents which are the 12 most important documents on the topic.

Ignore the evidence if you want, it shows you're intellectually lazy.  Dolan has done the research and homework.

http://www.afterdisclosure.com/2012/07/real-majestic-twelve.html





also not taken from a video game but an actual organization within the US military curing the cold war era working over project blue book.




Because pyramids are a basic fucking shape and being good at building really big majestic structures is a timehonored statement of power and wealth?


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165719 - 08/30/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

what about legends and religious texts sharing similiar or the same stories. what about knowing details about the heavens such as pluto and moons of certain planets.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cj-B]
    #22165726 - 08/30/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

CJ-B - Why is the ex Secretary of Defense of Canada, for Christ's sake,  on the record for stating there is a massive UFO coverup?  Why have Astronauts and military pilots come forward?  Why is John Podesta (hardly a military grunt) on the record that there is a complete stonewall governmental coverup of the UFO situation that needs to stop?

Your emotion on this is clouding your rational judgment. 

Brazilian Generals have reported that UFO's were assaulting a rural area of Brazil for years.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22165736 - 08/30/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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what about knowing details about the heavens such as pluto and moons of certain planets.




I think it's very possible that out of body travel was partly responsible for many of the discoveries requiring space flight.  There are cultures that mastered this technique.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22165738 - 08/30/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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CJ-B - Why is the ex Secretary of Defense of Canada, for Christ's sake,  on the record for stating there is a massive UFO coverup?  Why have Astronauts and military pilots come forward?  Why is John Podesta (hardly a military grunt) on the record that there is a complete stonewall governmental coverup of the UFO situation that needs to stop?

Your emotion on this is clouding your rational judgment. 

Brazilian Generals have reported that UFO's were assaulting a rural area of Brazil for years.




I 100 percent believe he is one of those people who wouldn't know wtf to think they they accepted that they have been lied to in the past and continue to. Does it bug him that the powers that be see us as cattle, dumb expendable cattle? Possibly. How could they lie to him when he is "no fool" ego thing


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