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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22119542 - 08/21/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
It's also relevant to remember that a lot of recorded history was lost and/or destroyed by the Christians through the centuries.  There are stories about pretty big libraries that existed that were destroyed.  The Gnostics, in particular, had a lot of information about the history before them but they were completely wiped out by the Christians.  So much was lost.  The Christians burned and destroyed all the writings of the Mayans with the exception of four books. 

It's very possible that Plato had a lot more information to draw from about man's history that went way beyond myths.




Well said. Kills me to think what was lost in those Mayan texts, or the library of Alexandria.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22119549 - 08/21/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i often wonder how much shit those catholics have stashed away in catacombs under the vatican. a lot i'd wager.  I mean, a ton of stuff got burned up in the crusades, but i know a bunch got swiped and hustled back to europe.  Those damn catholics keep it all to themselves


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22119550 - 08/21/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

the Gnostics = infinitely more interesting than Jesus.

but what can you do...:shrug: fundamentalism sucks.

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i often wonder how much shit those catholics have stashed away in catacombs under the vatican. a lot i'd wager.  I mean, a ton of stuff got burned up in the crusades, but i know a bunch got swiped and hustled back to europe.  Those damn catholics keep it all to themselves



yeah, that's right, their little library vault.

probably lots of goodies there. gotta love the hegemony.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22119675 - 08/21/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
It's also relevant to remember that a lot of recorded history was lost and/or destroyed by the Christians through the centuries.  There are stories about pretty big libraries that existed that were destroyed.  The Gnostics, in particular, had a lot of information about the history before them but they were completely wiped out by the Christians.  So much was lost.  The Christians burned and destroyed all the writings of the Mayans with the exception of four books. 

It's very possible that Plato had a lot more information to draw from about man's history that went way beyond myths.




Well said. Kills me to think what was lost in those Mayan texts, or the library of Alexandria.




A lot was lost.  Our linear theories that it all just "started to happen" about 9,000 years ago is pretty silly really.  Why so many find it threatening to even suggest that there were some advanced civilizations in the past is a mystery to me.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22125803 - 08/22/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So how do I denote the concept of energy- a force capable of producing work- in the most ancient version of egyptian heiroglyphic writing that is available?



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you have to study the semi-language, i mean, all the glyphs, all the magic in them, and i mean all of them...combined. good luck, good sir.




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gotta love how people like him obviously ignore anything that is inconvenient to the justification of their position.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: zZZz]
    #22125831 - 08/22/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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that's very interesting, man. i've never heard of bilderberg group, but it makes perfect sense.



it doesn't. The bilderberg group isn't interested in the pyramids or suppressing knowledge associated with them. It's a think tank for geopolitical issues with no actual decision making power and they sure as hell are above the level of nutty conspiracy theorists.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22125994 - 08/22/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Chariots of the Gods was written by Erich Van Daniken and not be be a jerk, but your comment is typical of someone criticizing people that do painstaking research on a topic like this.  You haven't read anything by him yet you say "you're just looking for things that may support your claims no matter how vague the supporting data."  So admittedly, you've never read Hancock, probably don't even know who he is and you've drawn some kind of conclusion on his work.

He has spent years researching the topic of the Pyramids and other sites that tie into a bigger theory of a series of meteor strikes roughly 12,000 years ago that destroyed an advanced civilization that was then fragmented and ultimately spread out to start a number of civilizations around the world creating the mythologies that all share certain elements whether it be Egypt, Peru or North America.




I know who wrote chariots of the gods, I clearly stated that I have read
nothing by hancock, I did make a generalized statement about these authors that
claim that santa clause and jesus were mushrooms, that the pyramids were built
by aliens, etc...  you're saying that hancock doesnt look for things that
support his theories yet his ideas consist of things such as an advanced mother
culture that split after a catastrophic event which birthed all of these other
so called advanced cultures such as the egyptians, mayans/incas, etc... maybe
you're right, maybe he's just pulling it right out of his ass because none of
his ideas seem to pan out when you start looking at what the archaeologists
have to say.

anyone that 'connects the dots' to link various things to support their
theories is either tossing shit together and adding their own filler or they're
just completely full of shit and some people buy into it because it's the kind
of thing they want to believe


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22126014 - 08/22/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
It's also relevant to remember that a lot of recorded history was lost and/or destroyed by the Christians through the centuries.  There are stories about pretty big libraries that existed that were destroyed.  The Gnostics, in particular, had a lot of information about the history before them but they were completely wiped out by the Christians.  So much was lost.  The Christians burned and destroyed all the writings of the Mayans with the exception of four books. 

It's very possible that Plato had a lot more information to draw from about man's history that went way beyond myths.





why are you blaming the christians, the moors destroyed the library of
alexandria, the mayan inquisition resulted in the desruction of 27 books which
left 3 behind which we now call the mayan codexes, so apparently the mayans
only had 30 books in total, for such an advanced culture do you think that to
be a little odd?


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22126033 - 08/22/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

hell, incas didn't even have writing.  well, they did have a system of knot tying that could communicate simple ideas i guess.  but i mean, they didn't have the wheel for fucks sake.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22126656 - 08/22/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The wheel was invented in eurasia, and only in one place. It was not made by multiple cultures. Plus the mayans lived in a jungle(which wouldn't make sense for having wheels) and they had no work animals like oxen or horses.
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why are you blaming the christians, the moors destroyed the library of
alexandria, the mayan inquisition resulted in the desruction of 27 books which
left 3 behind which we now call the mayan codexes, so apparently the mayans
only had 30 books in total, for such an advanced culture do you think that to
be a little odd?



Europe at the time had few books as well. It was probably in the hundreds, with the main book that existed was the bible. The majority of europe couldn't read(only priests, scholars, and some noblemen really) and every book had to be copied by hand. Books didn't become big until like the 1700s with the printing press being invented.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22126986 - 08/22/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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KauaiOrca said:
It's also relevant to remember that a lot of recorded history was lost and/or destroyed by the Christians through the centuries.  There are stories about pretty big libraries that existed that were destroyed.  The Gnostics, in particular, had a lot of information about the history before them but they were completely wiped out by the Christians.  So much was lost.  The Christians burned and destroyed all the writings of the Mayans with the exception of four books. 

It's very possible that Plato had a lot more information to draw from about man's history that went way beyond myths.





why are you blaming the christians, the moors destroyed the library of
alexandria, the mayan inquisition resulted in the desruction of 27 books which
left 3 behind which we now call the mayan codexes, so apparently the mayans
only had 30 books in total, for such an advanced culture do you think that to
be a little odd?




By the time the Muslims came along, the Christians had wiped out the Gnostics completely who were the people that maintained many of the libraries of knowledge.  The Christians outlawed the reading of any book but the bible for centuries. 

Interestingly, their was a renaissance of sorts when Islam started out and some really great progress was made before it devolved into a spread out military campaign.

The Spanish destroyed a lot more than 30 books of the Mayans.  I've read accounts that they destroyed entire libraries as they concluded it was devil worship.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Achillita]
    #22127154 - 08/22/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Achillita said:
Europe at the time had few books as well. It was probably in the hundreds, with the main book that existed was the bible.




Actually, production, collection and reading were quite popular, albeit in the groups you mentioned. But there certainly were many thousands of books in the entirety of Europe in the early middle ages, and there were many many more besides the bible, and they were very influential as well. While it's true that books became even more prolific from the early 1500s, they were very common and pervasive.

The image of the middle ages as some dark period in which there was only scientific and cultural regression is one of the most stubborn convictions of our time, while it is getting more and more clear that this was very far beside the truth. Read Pye's book about north west europe; it's a nice collection of insights based on a plethora of contemporary and medieval sources.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
    #22127269 - 08/22/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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koraks said:
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Achillita said:
Europe at the time had few books as well. It was probably in the hundreds, with the main book that existed was the bible.




Actually, production, collection and reading were quite popular, albeit in the groups you mentioned. But there certainly were many thousands of books in the entirety of Europe in the early middle ages, and there were many many more besides the bible, and they were very influential as well. While it's true that books became even more prolific from the early 1500s, they were very common and pervasive.

The image of the middle ages as some dark period in which there was only scientific and cultural regression is one of the most stubborn convictions of our time, while it is getting more and more clear that this was very far beside the truth. Read Pye's book about north west europe; it's a nice collection of insights based on a plethora of contemporary and medieval sources.




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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22127316 - 08/22/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't know if it's been posted already but my theory:

Alien homing beacons powered by massive internal quarts crystals hidden inside the granite slabs. :geordinod:


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
    #22132467 - 08/23/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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koraks said:
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zZZz said:

that's very interesting, man. i've never heard of bilderberg group, but it makes perfect sense.



it doesn't. The bilderberg group isn't interested in the pyramids or suppressing knowledge associated with them. It's a think tank for geopolitical issues with no actual decision making power and they sure as hell are above the level of nutty conspiracy theorists.



Builderberg connected to everything


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22132537 - 08/23/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
It's also relevant to remember that a lot of recorded history was lost and/or destroyed by the Christians through the centuries.  There are stories about pretty big libraries that existed that were destroyed.  The Gnostics, in particular, had a lot of information about the history before them but they were completely wiped out by the Christians.  So much was lost.  The Christians burned and destroyed all the writings of the Mayans with the exception of four books. 

It's very possible that Plato had a lot more information to draw from about man's history that went way beyond myths.





why are you blaming the christians, the moors destroyed the library of
alexandria, the mayan inquisition resulted in the desruction of 27 books which
left 3 behind which we now call the mayan codexes, so apparently the mayans
only had 30 books in total, for such an advanced culture do you think that to
be a little odd?




By the time the Muslims came along, the Christians had wiped out the Gnostics completely who were the people that maintained many of the libraries of knowledge.  The Christians outlawed the reading of any book but the bible for centuries. 

Interestingly, their was a renaissance of sorts when Islam started out and some really great progress was made before it devolved into a spread out military campaign.

The Spanish destroyed a lot more than 30 books of the Mayans.  I've read accounts that they destroyed entire libraries as they concluded it was devil worship.





wouldnt it be lovely if you shared this stuff, after all, you also claimed
grahm hancock was pulling shit out of his ass and trying to make evidence
fit his ideas


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22132582 - 08/23/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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wouldnt it be lovely if you shared this stuff, after all, you also claimed
grahm hancock was pulling shit out of his ass and trying to make evidence
fit his ideas




I was not critical of Hancock at all and said he had done a lot of research on the subject that needs to be taken seriously.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: aykaye47]
    #22133758 - 08/24/15 02:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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koraks said:
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that's very interesting, man. i've never heard of bilderberg group, but it makes perfect sense.



it doesn't. The bilderberg group isn't interested in the pyramids or suppressing knowledge associated with them. It's a think tank for geopolitical issues with no actual decision making power and they sure as hell are above the level of nutty conspiracy theorists.



Builderberg connected to everything



Given their membership it's bleeding obvious they're very well connected. This doesn't mean they are some kind of nwo organ. I understand it's difficult for the conspiracy theorists to deal with this kind of debate club. The reason why their meetings are closed to the public and even to many journalists (but not all!) is because they don't want that the group has a direct influence on what happens in the world. It's a high-level brainstorm group.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
    #22133780 - 08/24/15 03:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

they can't out brainstorm the shroomery group


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22133826 - 08/24/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We're a more likely candidate for the Naked World Ordeal.


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