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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs] 1
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akira_akuma said: but no historical record of the event? perhaps it wiped out anyone who could record the event, i suppose.
it's an interesting premise; i've always imagined if there was anything to that line of thinking. maybe one day before recorded time, there were humans living with even worse things than spiders, maybe like dinosaurs or something. i dunno, just a thought. lol, it's an interesting premise for sure. Archaeology is fascinating.
There are actually over 500 ancient texts that talk about a cataclysm and its aftermath, sharing many similar details. The most substantial evidence for the Younger Dryas impact, in my opinion, is the discovery of magnetic spherules and nano-diamonds formed under immense pressure and heat, in a "black mat" covering 50 million square miles across 4 continents.
The impact hypothesis has been discussed and debated for a long time, but only recently considered fact due to a plethora of new evidence.
Essentially, cosmic impact > rapid melting of giant ice sheets > biblical flood
Evidence from the northwestern Venezuelan Andes for extraterrestrial impact: The black mat enigma.
New Evidence from a Black Mat Site in the North Supporting a Cosmic Impact 12,800 Years Ago
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said: So how do I denote the concept of energy- a force capable of producing work- in the most ancient version of egyptian heiroglyphic writing that is available?
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you have to study the semi-language, i mean, all the glyphs, all the magic in them, and i mean all of them...combined. good luck, good sir.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: akira_akuma]
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There are actually over 500 ancient texts that talk about a cataclysm and its aftermath, sharing many similar details.
can you name maybe a couple, so i can do some research. sounds interesting.
PS: i'll be reading those links too.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
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koraks said: Hancock's theories were the subject of a discovery channel series on the pyramids about a decade ago if I recall correctly. Just putting this out there for those who want to get acquainted with his work before they decide to pick up his books.
LOL
his International Aid book looks more interesting to than the Egyptian stuff. it's all very hokey looking, the rest of his stuff. but i'm not saying his writing doesn't have some kind of validity...just probably not the 'big answers' everyone here is hoping for, who reads his books.
really, all the civilizations came from one? what if all the civilizations were simply connected by trade route? easy way to make stories.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said: can you name maybe a couple, so i can do some research. sounds interesting.
PS: i'll be reading those links too.
There are thousands of scientific papers on the Younger Dryas impact, those are just two that I pulled from my personal archive. The first being from 2010, the second 2015.
A few ancient texts you might be interested in looking at:
Lots of flood stories in Mesopotamian, Mesoamerican and even Native American mythology The Bible - Noah's Ark (obviously) Deucalion (Greek Mythology) Xisuthrus Utnapishtim Manu The Epic of Gilgamesh (Ancient Sumeria) Puranas (Religious texts from India)
I also just recently learned of flood stories in Australian Aboriginal mythology. (I'm an aussie )
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs]
#22118786 - 08/20/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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you're Aussie? watch The Last Wave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Wave
it's all about it. (no it's not a documentary, it's a drama film; but classic.)
PS: yes the Aboriginal flood mythology and their afterlife/creation myths are all very interesting.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs]
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really, all the civilizations came from one? what if all the civilizations were simply connected by trade route? easy way to make stories.
He's essentially saying that 12,000 years ago the entire world was connected with trade routes and there was one far more developed country that developed better technology and was way ahead of the rest of the humans. That civilization was wiped out by a cataclysmic event and their technology was lost and the survivors scattered around the world or were cut off and this formed the foundation for all the similarities in myths, motivation for all the rock pyramids around the world and the persistent tales of a very powerful civilization in the ancient world.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22118818 - 08/20/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: which is?
The civilization that Plato referred to as Atlantis. This might also be connected to the enormous monothithic structures being found as far down as 120 feet in the ocean.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22118878 - 08/20/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bingo.
but none of this can even be close to verified. Plato was probably nuttier than Socrates, i mean, not with the unequivocal genius part, but with the megolomania part.
see the thing is this; Atlantis wasn't really a thing in Plato's time, it was then still just a myth. so how can this be verified through him?
lets hope Hancock comes up with some more answers than just more questions, then, i guess.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22118964 - 08/20/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: you're Aussie? watch The Last Wave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Wave
it's all about it.
PS: yes the Aboriginal flood mythology and their afterlife/creation myths are all very interesting.
I have heard of this movie but I've never seen it, I'll have to check it out.
It seems like a lot of interesting Aboriginal stories and myths get overlooked by Aussies. I'm certainly guilty of this up until recently. I've always been aware of their "dreamtime" stories but they were always so crazy sounding. Now I realize that this was just symbolism, their way of explaining real life events.
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KauaiOrca said: The civilization that Plato referred to as Atlantis. This might also be connected to the enormous monothithic structures being found as far down as 120 feet in the ocean.
"Atlantis" is such a loaded word, thanks to peoples stories of finding giant crystal pyramids under the sea and flying cars, you're immediately thrown into the crazy pile for evening suggesting that it existed.
Whilst we're on the subject of gigantic floods, thought I'd repost this quote from Plato:
“Afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea.” Plato - Timaeus et Critias.
The interesting thing about this is the timeline that Plato gives for the destruction of Atlantis is shared by other flood stories from around the world, and occurs roughly around the same time as the Younger Dryas impact.
I believe the story of Atlantis originally came from Solon, then made it's way to Socrates and then to Plato.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs]
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the timeline IS interesting. i'll give it that.
PS: and yeah Aussie have some wicked stories...and Peter Weir is a really good film maker. i'd highly recommend his stuff. it's not study material though, i don't think, just so ya know. it's just a good story. tying the "old" with "the new".
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs]
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I don't know if you guys knew this, but quite a few native american legends exist that are about a cataclysmic flood. I'm even pretty sure the aztecs said that the last world was destroyed by water and formed into us. And humans becoming the dominant species.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Achillita]
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Achillita said: I don't know if you guys knew this, but quite a few native american legends exist that are about a cataclysmic flood. I'm even pretty sure the aztecs said that the last world was destroyed by water and formed into us. And humans becoming the dominant species.
Yeah man, so cool I find it hard to believe that all of these flood stories, sharing roughly the same timeline, is just coincidence. Combined with the evidence of a cosmic impact also occurring around roughly the same time..
Truly fascinating stuff.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: aykaye47]
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aykaye47 said: I once watched some documentary on netflix about the pyramids, dont remember which one but there was some guy who was giving the "tour". they went down to some recently discovered part of the pyramid and he said he was the only one that has the authority to go into the pyramids and it made me think, who gave this guy the authority who owns/controls these pyramids? so I started to do some research. I dont remember names and avenues of my research but at the end of the tunnel it turned out to be some guy who makes books for public education and researching this guy found that he is a member of the bilderberg group. At the time I didnt know wtf the bilderberg group was, so after researching them did I open up a whole fuckload of cans of worms. Made me wonder what are these structures? and are the books lying to us? and why would the bilderberg group have total control of the pyramids and all discoveries made secret?
that's very interesting, man. i've never heard of bilderberg group, but it makes perfect sense.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: zZZz]
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i've never heard of bilderberg group
google it. then google: the Russel Trust Association Council on Foreign Relations(sounds pretty official huh?) Trilateral Commission
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: zZZz]
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It's also relevant to remember that a lot of recorded history was lost and/or destroyed by the Christians through the centuries. There are stories about pretty big libraries that existed that were destroyed. The Gnostics, in particular, had a lot of information about the history before them but they were completely wiped out by the Christians. So much was lost. The Christians burned and destroyed all the writings of the Mayans with the exception of four books.
It's very possible that Plato had a lot more information to draw from about man's history that went way beyond myths.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: ballsalsa]
#22119539 - 08/20/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea. doesnt surprise me, but it is interesting nonetheless
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
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KauaiOrca said: It's also relevant to remember that a lot of recorded history was lost and/or destroyed by the Christians through the centuries. There are stories about pretty big libraries that existed that were destroyed. The Gnostics, in particular, had a lot of information about the history before them but they were completely wiped out by the Christians. So much was lost. The Christians burned and destroyed all the writings of the Mayans with the exception of four books.
that is very sad.
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