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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs] 1
#22105021 - 08/18/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Graham Hancock wrote two books on this subject that I recommend to everyone. Messages of the Sphinx and Chariots of the Gods.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
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KauaiOrca said: For you to claim some kind of superior knowledge over the Egyptians of what actually happens in the afterlife is kinda funny. HTF do you know what happens after death? By what authority do you have better visibility into this than the Egyptians did?
There's no scientific support whatsoever for the existence of an afterlife. I put more faith in that knowledge than partially translated texts of an ancient people who didn't apply evidence based deductive reasoning to these matters. Go read your Egyptian texts, there's no structured analysis involving an evidence-based approach anywhere of how the human soul works and what happens to it after death. Fine by me if you want to believe otherwise, but for me, that would just be a regression to an irrational, pre-medieval belief system that is unlikely to produce any reliable knowledge.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
#22105276 - 08/18/15 03:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: For you to claim some kind of superior knowledge over the Egyptians of what actually happens in the afterlife is kinda funny. HTF do you know what happens after death? By what authority do you have better visibility into this than the Egyptians did?
There's no scientific support whatsoever for the existence of an afterlife. I put more faith in that knowledge than partially translated texts of an ancient people who didn't apply evidence based deductive reasoning to these matters. Go read your Egyptian texts, there's no structured analysis involving an evidence-based approach anywhere of how the human soul works and what happens to it after death. Fine by me if you want to believe otherwise, but for me, that would just be a regression to an irrational, pre-medieval belief system that is unlikely to produce any reliable knowledge.
There isn't a human soul but only one soul that shares it's soul with all the physical matter. It is the soul of infinity. It is the experiencer of all experience. It is the feeling of being something rather than nothing. It is the one thing that cannot be held by the subject because it is infinity.
Everything else exists as pairs of opposites that must be understood relative of each other. Infinity has no pair because it contains everything. An example of the most basic pair is nothing and something. Think of a fan blade the blades of the fan cannot exist without the space(nothing) between them. The nothing between the blades cannot exist without the something between it. A fan without space between the blades is a logical absurdity. It also shows that nothing isn't nothing and in a way something is nothing too. This is the meaning of the yin yang symbol the the pair is light and dark or good and evil.
Try to find the feeling of yourself in your mind. Just search for yourself in there. "Who am I?, who is asking who am I?"
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Eggtimer]
#22105290 - 08/18/15 03:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you even lift, bro?
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Eggtimer] 1
#22105317 - 08/18/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nicely put, but I think I'm too rational for that somewhat vague metaphysical stuff. Enjoy it though, by all means!
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
#22105624 - 08/18/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's no scientific support whatsoever for the existence of an afterlife. I put more faith in that knowledge than partially translated texts of an ancient people who didn't apply evidence based deductive reasoning to these matters. Go read your Egyptian texts, there's no structured analysis involving an evidence-based approach anywhere of how the human soul works and what happens to it after death. Fine by me if you want to believe otherwise, but for me, that would just be a regression to an irrational, pre-medieval belief system that is unlikely to produce any reliable knowledge.
The scientific process has given us so many wonderful things. Medicines, energy, engines,, rockets, planes, communications devices and progress unimagined even 100 years ago.
The notion that science is the ONLY method to understand the greater mysteries like who we are, where we come from, why we exist, what is God, is there an afterlife, etc. is limiting. There are many that have applied the scientific process to understand the afterlife. Read the books of Robert Monroe, for example. There is no group on the planet that has put more time, energy, serious observation and scientific process into understanding the afterlife than the Tibetans. Centuries of very sober and serious study have generated absolutely fascinating conclusions on the topic. The same is true of the ancient Gnostics. Consciousness and/or awareness is not easily understood or measured as it is a deeply personal and individual experience. Millions have had direct experience with non-physical entities, afterlife realms and "locations" that are so organized and well developed that to call it all mind tricks is an incredible leap of faith.
Any thoughts on how a young child can reveal very specific details of a past life that are investigated to be 100% accurate? How is it possible that a near death experience takes a person's consciousness to a completely new world, an intensive examination of his/her life and a powerful encounter with non physical entities. If there was no afterlife what would possibly be the purpose of such a "chemical brain function" such as this? How exactly does the brain organize all of these non physical reality systems and why?
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Konyap]
#22106016 - 08/18/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Konyap said: the story of moses is fake there were never any jews in egypt ever egyptions were a high class civilization that kept records jews on the other hand are gypsies
why did that gypsy culture manage to survive while this great, powerful high class culture fail?
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22106026 - 08/18/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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because the gypsy's used their tarot cards before each battle and already knew the outcome, so they just kept rerolling until they knew they'd win. Its all about beating the odd's
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
#22106096 - 08/18/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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koraks said: Nicely put, but I think I'm too rational for that somewhat vague metaphysical stuff. Enjoy it though, by all means!
Alright here's the idea but without the touchy feely shit .
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KauaiOrca said: If there was no afterlife what would possibly be the purpose of such a "chemical brain function" such as this? How exactly does the brain organize all of these non physical reality systems and why?
It possible DMT is released at the time of death to preserve brain cells in case the person survives or something. Or it's magic. DMT is the best evidence we got that there is something more to existence other than this world and it's illegal as fuck. To those that say DMT hasn't been found in our brain it is because it would be every unethical to slice someone up while alive to find this out. It's found in countless plants and animals and in rat brains.
You can smoke/shoot 60mg-100mg of DMT and it'll be processed by your system within 15 mins. This may be a indication that the human body/mind has been dealing with this stuff for quite a while when compared to how long it takes for your body/brain to process most other drugs. TLDR Your body knows what to do with 60mg of DMT because DMT serves some purpose we do not know yet.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said: So how do I denote the concept of energy- a force capable of producing work- in the most ancient version of egyptian heiroglyphic writing that is available?
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: morrowasted]
#22108213 - 08/18/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I subscribe to Graham Hancock's theory which is that they were used for a spiritual ritual in which one was supposed to learn and practice how to pass into the afterlife after death. I don't believe aliens built them and I don't think they were a tomb.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: GoblinKing]
#22108241 - 08/18/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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GoblinKing said: Graham Hancock wrote two books on this subject that I recommend to everyone. Messages of the Sphinx and Chariots of the Gods.
Graham Hancock is the man  I believe Chariots of the Gods is written by Erich Von Daniken, and focuses mainly around the ancient aliens hypothesis. Hancock's book is called "Fingerprints of the Gods", this book completely changed my view on Ancient History. His newest book coming out in a few months is "Magicians of the Gods". Can't wait to get my hands on it.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs]
#22108443 - 08/18/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agree that Graham Hancock has written some great books with a lot of quality research. Those that haven't read him are probably unaware of what has been discovered about the Pyramids.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22108477 - 08/18/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: Agree that Graham Hancock has written some great books with a lot of quality research. Those that haven't read him are probably unaware of what has been discovered about the Pyramids.
Absolutely. I remember the adrenaline and excitement whilst reading the book and realizing how much this research changes everything. I wanted to spread the word to everyone, our past is so much more interesting than the mainstream timeline that we're taught in school.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: jsncrs]
#22108555 - 08/18/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just pre ordered Magicians of the Gods on Amazon. Looks like it'll be a great book!
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: FruitOfLife]
#22108567 - 08/18/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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FruitOfLife said: I just pre ordered Magicians of the Gods on Amazon. Looks like it'll be a great book!
Awesome! Randall Carlson claims it will be the most important book of the 21st Century. Can't wait.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22108651 - 08/18/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: Agree that Graham Hancock has written some great books with a lot of quality research. Those that haven't read him are probably unaware of what has been discovered about the Pyramids.
the problem with researching for a conclusion you already have come to is that you arent looking for answers, you already believe you have them, you're just looking for things that may support your claims no matter how vague the supporting data is
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22108713 - 08/18/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: Agree that Graham Hancock has written some great books with a lot of quality research. Those that haven't read him are probably unaware of what has been discovered about the Pyramids.
the problem with researching for a conclusion you already have come to is that you arent looking for answers, you already believe you have them, you're just looking for things that may support your claims no matter how vague the supporting data is
I agree that this can be a problem, the ancient aliens crowd are definitely guilty of this. But that's what I like about Hancock's work, he seems to be different in this sense. He never claims any absolute truth and builds his conclusions around the evidence that he uncovers. Very refreshing.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22109677 - 08/19/15 04:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: Agree that Graham Hancock has written some great books with a lot of quality research. Those that haven't read him are probably unaware of what has been discovered about the Pyramids.
the problem with researching for a conclusion you already have come to is that you arent looking for answers, you already believe you have them, you're just looking for things that may support your claims no matter how vague the supporting data is
I'm curious, have you read his books? If so,which one?
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: zZZz]
#22109766 - 08/19/15 05:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The free thinking atheist sees it like this

Free thinkers see it like this. Drugs are the universe calling you back to the source. All animals are driven to do these things. It's a natural impulse. We have become so obsessed with the subject/object relationship we fail to see the whole picture. The subject is vital to the experience! The pyramids were built because they realized they were gods in flesh so they simply did it. They made wondrous art so they could admire their creation. Entoptic phenomena Alex Grey is trying to do the same thing today. He wants to build that in real life!



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