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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22102914 - 08/17/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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if u want to get more technical about it, most people, including scientist and astronomers, believe many things based purely out of faith and do not even realize it.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: zZZz]
#22102919 - 08/17/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zZZz said: if u want to get more technical about it, most people, including scientist and astronomers, believe many things based purely out of faith and do not even realize it.
Scientists believe other scientists even though they don't understand the science.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22102935 - 08/17/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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it is like the relationship between an astronaut who has been to space, and a regular nasa employee who works in the command center and has never been to space.
even tho the dude at the command center has never been to space he trusts the astronauts who have, and he says to himself "space is real", but what he doesnt realize is that he's basing that fact purely out of faith.
sure the evidence might all be there, but he can never be truly sure until he goes up there and experiences it for himself.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: zZZz] 1
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 I think the evidence makes it pretty clear what these pryamids were put here for...
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Ojyelhsa]
#22103129 - 08/17/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You've got a serious things for oranges, huh?
I love the cat on the far right, they look JUST like my kitty She has the same colors and the same fur type and the same adorable little runway tuft of hair on her forehead that is just so perfect to scratch and smooch on.
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ive got an orange and white kit too. oranges are pretty rad. its a more appropriate obsession than my last... which was hitler.
not sure if hes not somehow involved in the pyramid conspiracy but some solid research could expand my understanding.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Ojyelhsa]
#22103284 - 08/17/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You know that the pharoahs buried in the pyramids were either considered gods, or near gods by the majority of the egyptian people. By building monument for the pharaoh, they in turn build a monument for the gods that they worship.
Burial practices were incredibly important for the people of egypt, even the common "slave" was treated to a decent burial at the time. Slaves were also paid in pretty much the only currency of the time, food. Enough food for whole families usually. And also a place to live.
But the point of such burial practices are meant for the purpose of aiding an Egyptian to the afterlife. For pharaohs is was usually either to be able to bring ALL of their wealth and prosperity, or to help them with the ascension to status of a complete god in the later Egyptian era.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Achillita]
#22103316 - 08/17/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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To empower those that have us all enslaved. liek the many many many many many many many subliminal messages throughout media to give them a lil woodie everytime they see "they" in out enjoyment really sick twisted fucks
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Achillita]
#22103365 - 08/17/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Achillita said: You know that the pharoahs buried in the pyramids were either considered gods, or near gods by the majority of the egyptian people. By building monument for the pharaoh, they in turn build a monument for the gods that they worship.
Burial practices were incredibly important for the people of egypt, even the common "slave" was treated to a decent burial at the time. Slaves were also paid in pretty much the only currency of the time, food. Enough food for whole families usually. And also a place to live.
But the point of such burial practices are meant for the purpose of aiding an Egyptian to the afterlife. For pharaohs is was usually either to be able to bring ALL of their wealth and prosperity, or to help them with the ascension to status of a complete god in the later Egyptian era.
One man's burial tomb is another man's afterlife transformation energy machine. I think it's pretty safe to assume the purpose of a pyramid, for the Pharaoh went far beyond a nice big burial marker.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22103378 - 08/17/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh it definitely wasn't just a tomb to the pharoah, it had a big religious significance. It was showing his power as a ruler, but also pretty much a vessel to the afterlife.
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#22103383 - 08/17/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you put it that way, then I can sort of agree with that. Although the bit about them.being energy transformation machines - not that bit. An aid to help their souls transverse to the afterlife, sure. Did it work? Well, perhaps in the sense that we still remember them today. Maybe not the afterlife they imagined, but quite a feat nonetheless.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
#22103396 - 08/17/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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koraks said: If you put it that way, then I can sort of agree with that. Although the bit about them.being energy transformation machines - not that bit. An aid to help their souls transverse to the afterlife, sure. Did it work? Well, perhaps in the sense that we still remember them today. Maybe not the afterlife they imagined, but quite a feat nonetheless.
"An aid to help their souls transverse to the afterlife." LMAO ...
In what way is that not an energy transformation machine? What could possibly be more important in terms of energy transformation than a giant and powerful structure that enables our afterlife spirit to transform and travel to the Godhood?
If that's not a spiritual transformation machine, I'd like to know what is? Perhaps you could explain it for me.
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#22103576 - 08/17/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Firstly, 'spiritual' and 'energy' are different things. Messing up definitiona doesn't produce a good argument. Secondly, that pyramids may have been intended to aid in that transgression doesn't mean that's what they did. Of course they didn't. I can intend my kitchen sink to aid in the cleansing of my soul but it just drains off waste water and nothing more. As it is, a pyramid is a heap of stones stacked in a form that is inherently stable and therefore has considerable longevity. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
#22103597 - 08/17/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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koraks said: Firstly, 'spiritual' and 'energy' are different things. Messing up definitiona doesn't produce a good argument. Secondly, that pyramids may have been intended to aid in that transgression doesn't mean that's what they did. Of course they didn't. I can intend my kitchen sink to aid in the cleansing of my soul but it just drains off waste water and nothing more. As it is, a pyramid is a heap of stones stacked in a form that is inherently stable and therefore has considerable longevity. Nothing more, nothing less.
Too funny. So spirit is not energy? If there is such a thing as the afterlife, which clearly the Egyptians believed intensely there was, then some kind of energy remains after death (spirit?) that needs to be transformed to the God realms.
My point is the REASON the Egyptians built the pyramids was they believed them to be energy transformation structures or machines and to them the most important energy was that of their souls/spirits transmuting to the afterlife. That's a very, very different purpose than a giant tombstone memorial ... radically different purpose. Add to that that the Pyramids seemed to serve as a very high temple for various spiritual ceremonies and you get to the real purpose which was way beyond a grave marker for a King.
For you to claim some kind of superior knowledge over the Egyptians of what actually happens in the afterlife is kinda funny. HTF do you know what happens after death? By what authority do you have better visibility into this than the Egyptians did?
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22103919 - 08/17/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We can define energy however we want to define it. It is necessary for our semantics to remain consistent, however, if we want our communication to be meaningful. In the context of science, energy does not include things like spirit. In the context of neo-Mystic New Ageism, it sometimes does. The problem is that New Agers have a tendency to be sloppy with their semantics and thus a given statement which may refer to one thing for the speaker does not refer to the same thing for the listener.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: morrowasted]
#22103954 - 08/17/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: We can define energy however we want to define it. It is necessary for our semantics to remain consistent, however, if we want our communication to be meaningful. In the context of science, energy does not include things like spirit. In the context of neo-Mystic New Ageism, it sometimes does. The problem is that New Agers have a tendency to be sloppy with their semantics and thus a given statement which may refer to one thing for the speaker does not refer to the same thing for the listener.
To understand the Pyramids and why they were built you must look at the reasons that were important to the Ancient Egyptians. Whether they were right about their beliefs on energy, transformation, spirit, the afterlife is a very different question. The question is WHY were the Pyramids built, not a modern science discussion of energy and whether or not a pyramid of that size has any measurable impact on it.
WHY did the Pyramids get built. The most logical answer is they were believed to be an energy transformation structure.
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22104045 - 08/17/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So are you going full http://hieroglyphs.info/ on us? Do you have any documents that tell us the reasons they were important to the Egyptians?
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: morrowasted]
#22104076 - 08/17/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said: So are you going full http://hieroglyphs.info/ on us? Do you have any documents that tell us the reasons they were important to the Egyptians?
This one is a great place to start.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Egyptian-Book-Dead-Integrated/dp/0811864898
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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22104127 - 08/17/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So how do I denote the concept of energy- a force capable of producing work- in the most ancient version of egyptian heiroglyphic writing that is available?
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