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Bigfeely123
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Can I re-dry mushrooms?
#22088529 - 08/13/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have approx 1 & 1/4 oz of mushrooms that I harvested approx a month 1/2 ago. They all fit in one normal sized zip lock bag plus about 1/4 of another normal sized ziplock bag. I dried them with a fan for approx 2, sometimes 3 days. Then put them in a desiccant chamber for 1-2 days after that. The stems are very thin. They still bend though. At first I thought it was just because the stems were so thin but the other day I ate 4.2 grams of them & the effects were very subtle. My last batch of B+ I only dried with a fan for 1 day & put in a desiccant chamber for 1 day & they seemed good but the stems were thicker so it was easier for me to tell that they were dried. Can I put this semi-dried batch of Brazilian mushrooms in a desiccant chamber again for a day or two & after they will be fully dry? Or will that somehow ruin potency or even further mess them up? Please tell me how I can fix them. Thank you for any advice/tips. I would greatly appreciate it.
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inked4life
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you lose potency when drying regardless but i would leave them in the des box till cracker dry
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Re: Can I re-dry mushrooms? [Re: inked4life]
#22088633 - 08/13/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A dehydrator is best. A desiccant chamber is fine if they are almost cracker dry.
You can get a dehydrator for like $30, just do it. I use mine to re-dry desiccant packets for small stashes to stay dry.
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Bigfeely123
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Yes these are just about cracker dry I would say. I'll throw them in the desiccant chamber again for another day or until they're 100% dry.
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Re: Can I re-dry mushrooms? [Re: inked4life]
#22088687 - 08/13/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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inked4life said: you lose potency when drying regardless but i would leave them in the des box till cracker dry
You lose no more potency when drying if they've already been dry once, and the alternative is them sitting around not dry.
Stop getting people afraid of drying shit.
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Pastywhyte
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Buy a $40 or cheaper model from Wal-Mart. That way when you burn it out you can just return it and get a new one.
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Bigfeely123
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Re: Can I re-dry mushrooms? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22089082 - 08/13/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks so much for the advice guys, I really do appreciate it. You are all a big help to me. I am definitely going to buy one when I start up a new batch. For now I just put them in a desiccant chamber with lots of silica gel packets on the bottom. Hopefully that will make them cracker dry. Right now the total weight is: 39.77 grams.
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filthyknees
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I think putting them on a fan would do more. If you have a box fan that would work well with or without a hair dryer. Maybe put some screen down first.
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mustangbob3
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Quote:
GreenRabbit said: A dehydrator is best. A desiccant chamber is fine if they are almost cracker dry.
You can get a dehydrator for like $30, just do it. I use mine to re-dry desiccant packets for small stashes to stay dry.
great tip on re-drying desiccant packets  + 5
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Bigfeely123
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Hey guys. Good day to you all. Last night I put all 40 grams in a few seperate desiccant chambers. I wanted to make sure that they had room to dry that is why I used more than one. I just checked on them & rearranged them and they are definitely a lot drier & crispier than before. Awesome... I'm happy about this. I was wondering why 4.2 grams didn't do much... It could slightly be a tolerance issue because I trip every week but I've never noticed that significant of a tolerance buildup from week to week so it was definitely more of a water weight issue. I can tell just from the feeling of them last night compared to this morning that there was still just a little bit of water in them. I greatly appreciate all your guys' help. You all rock. Have a great weekend yall. 
Is putting silica gel packets in a dehydrator the only way to suck the water back out of the little packets?
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spacechildo
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an oven is a huge ass dehydrator if you just crack the door open.
I would rather use a fan and screen first and then finish them in the oven than involving desiccant in the drying process!
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Bigfeely123
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What, really? Is desiccant agents such as silica gel packets potentially harmful to the mushrooms, thus being potentially harmful to me since I will be ingesting them? I don't want to seem like I am questioning your expertise but what is the reasoning behind it? Because I've been using a desiccant chamber for the last stage of the drying process for all my batches now. (After fan drying them)
I always had the impression that using an oven (heat) to dry mushrooms could destroy the psilocybin content.
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spacechildo
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nah heat is fine, cron PC'd his finished mushrooms and they were still fine and dehydrators are ran at 160-170F.
desiccant is better at keeping things dry rather than drying them. its limited how much water they hold and you want your mushrooms CRACKER dry for storage, else they just go soggy and moldy on you.
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Bigfeely123
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Oh I see. Before putting them away (approximately 1 1/2 to 2 months ago.) they were were still slightly bendy but for the most part pretty dry-but not snap in half dry. I can tell they have gotten a significant amount drier just by feeling them this morning but I really hope they didn't already go bad in the course of that 1/2 to 2 month time period & that I'm just further drying them for nothing now. Shoot...
I examined them last night when I fully took notice of the issue & they did not appear to have any noticeable mold or odd looking discolorations/lesions on them. They definitely were not soggy or damp to the touch because I think I initially dried them good enough to where that wouldn't happen. Do you happen to know what color the mold would be if they did in fact go bad?
I've definitely learned my lesson from this. "Do it right the first time around."
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spacechildo
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consider it's food and use your best judgement. you'll know it if its bad. proper storage is also important to keep the actives.
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Bigfeely123
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Haha true... I'm overthinking. Thanks so much.
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spacechildo
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GreenRabbit
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spacechildo said: desiccant is better at keeping things dry rather than drying them. its limited how much water they hold and you want your mushrooms CRACKER dry for storage, else they just go soggy and moldy on you.
Desiccants are nice to keep in a bag or jar, they are very effective at keeping things cracker dry. If things aren't dry though, desiccants will saturate quickly. Once they reach they point, they are useless until redried.
I like having desiccants in bags. Even if I don't open the bag much, the shrooms stop being cracker dry after a while,then when I throw a freshly dried desiccant pack in, they go back to cracker dry in a day.
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Yeah when I get the big unexpected flushes that yield too much to handle in my dehydrators, I have the others hanging on a rack with a fan for 24-48 hours. I put them in my oven at 170. I don't even crack the door anymore for 1 hour. They come our crispy af. And I've not noticed any differences between my dehydrator and the oven method I just think the dehydrator is so much easier. I've even left things in the dehydrator for 48+ hours, when they were most likely cracker dry at 24 (I had to run to the city to see my family), and I couldn't notice any differences 
Conversely I've had them on a fan rack for 4 days and then oven dried at 170 for 1 hour without the door open and they also had no noticable potency loss. I think genetics play a far greater role.
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