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In 2016 Sally D. WILL become illegal schedule IV, Canada
#22088385 - 08/13/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry fellow canucks as of August 12, 2015, there has been a change in the legal status of Salvia divinorum (Diviners sage) plants. Health Canada has decided to ban the plant
 and, effective in 180 days from August 12, 2015, it will no longer be legal to cultivate, grow or possess this plant in Canada. source seems like my salvia divinorum plants are legal for now but only 180ish days longer after which they'll schedule IV it, schedule IV includes steroids, khat and barbiturates. Production of a Schedule IV drug: Maximum 3 years imprisonment. Though, a Canadian growing a handful of plants could hardly be considered for the maximum sentence but more as personal use. When will harper(and friends) learn government cannot Ban a plant, so stupid. Basically if your a trippy Canadian with out a plant, you got aboout 180 days I want you to stock up on S. divinorum, I suggest acquiring a live one eh and you best giv'R. b4 it's to late! 
Edit: Read through the whole bill -Vol. 149, No. 16 of CONTROLLED DRUGS AND SUBSTANCES ACT-- they're calling this 'thing' an amendment on Scedule IV
Soo this is what I've gathered -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-1. amendment in effect exactly 180 days from aug. 12 2015. This means it'll be in Effect on Feb. 14, 2016. (correct me if im wrong)
-2. When enforced the Amendment will list salvia divinorum as a scedule IV drug, Quote:
Salvia divinorum (S. divinorum), its preparations and derivatives, including:(1) Salvinorin A ((2S,4aR,6aR,7R,9S,10aS,10bR)-9-(acetyloxy)-2-(3-furanyl)dodecahydro-6a,10b-dimethyl-4,10-dioxo-2H-naphtho[2,1-c]pyran-7-carboxylic acid methyl ester)
-3. Canucks are not entitled to SELL or BUY any salvia products. Including -Dry leaf -extracts+pure salvorin -Live plants
-4. ""First, this Order will add S. divinorum and its preparations and derivatives to Schedule IV to the CDSA. This will prohibit the production+(extraction/live plants)+, trafficking+(aka selling)+, possession for the purposes of trafficking, importation and exportation+(this means the border)+ and possession for the purposes of exportation of these substances+(Don't get nailed with this offence)+, unless as authorized under the regulations or a section 56 exemption+(section 56 exception is fucking confusing(and Utterly ridiculousQuote:
section 56 exceptions title Order Fixing the Day on which this Order is made as the Day on which the Act Comes into Force
)+ I believe our government is Straight fucked, noone understands your exceptions rules and regulations!)
-5. Quote:
Simple possession will not be prohibited under the CDSA.
This is good eh?! Though don't risk getting caught with pounds of extract or something. eh
-6. They can still allow for scientific research and tests with salvia.
-7. A ballsy guy could ask THE MAN if u'r allowed to use/grow salvia personaly for "Religous/spiritual reasons" as stated on amendment- here you go, the mans email. good luck. OCS_regulatorypolicy-BSC_politiquereglementaire@hc-sc.gc.ca
-8. This gives me hope for our government Quote:
Some additional concerns were that drug prohibition in itself is ineffective, and that scheduling would restrict personal choice.
-9. Your caught importing or trafficking or production of salvia?(-production means growing, sorry-) maximum 3 yearsQuote:
For retailers of S. divinorum and gardeners cultivating the plant in question, compliance will involve ceasing the sale of S. divinorum, as well as its cultivation, given that cultivation is captured under the prohibited activity of production.
As a gardener growing salvia I'm expected to 'stop' growing my baby, my plant stays fuck 'em.
-10. Quote:
Federal, provincial and local law enforcement agencies are responsible for taking enforcement action in response to contraventions of the CDSA and its regulations. The prosecution of contraventions under the CDSA is the responsibility of the justice system.
Fuck the police, eh?
-69. My main point being; it's not illegal yet, Take advantage of this and get a goddamned cutting. if you've never experimented with salvia just hit your hemp shop for extracts, trip for fuck sakes. The future for salvia is bleak, so fucking giv'R hell boys. even if your way up in the yukon get some grow lights and grow, you'll be surprized eh at how well this plant adapts to our winters(Saskatchewan is damn cold, fucking dirty saski's. that place is cold asf)
Important note: Growing will be seen as Production in the eyes of the law, production = 1 to 3 year imprisonment. --If you're already growing it you're gonna have to decide, You gunna keep your plant(s)? or nah?
Edited by salviasandwich (08/20/15 07:46 AM)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22088498 - 08/13/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ouch, eh?
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
#22088668 - 08/13/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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all is good since she's technically still legal, but, only 179 days before prohibition.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22088825 - 08/13/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Source????
I can't find anything on this...
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: cowsRmeat]
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: modern.shaman]
#22088880 - 08/13/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
modern.shaman said: was posted in the op
http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2015/2015-08-12/html/sor-dors209-eng.php
 I read the whole OP, but somehow skimmed over the link BOTH times I went looking for it...
Thanks.
This is pretty dumb though, are the Canadian teens really going so crazy with smoking salvia in party settings and jumping out of windows enough to get this kind of attention from the government??? Geez.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22088889 - 08/13/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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good for them, when I tried salvia 12 or 15 years ago, There was no possible way I was standing up and jumping out a window. I couldn't do much but drool
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
#22088938 - 08/13/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was referring to a video I saw on youtube years ago. Have you NOT seen that video?!? I'm kind of torn on that video, though. On one hand I HATE the negative publicity it gives to salvia, on the other hand I am AMAZED that the guy could literally climb his living room wall and crash through his window and spill out on the front yard.
I'll see if I can dig it up. I'll PM the link to you, kosmo, so you can get a chuckle out of it, but I will not link to it here as to not contribute to publicity for the plant... I'd like Salvia to stay as far under the radar as possible.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22089398 - 08/13/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Welcome to America.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: ferrel_human]
#22089506 - 08/13/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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america eh? nah, never


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.. this happened, Canada wins.
Edited by salviasandwich (08/14/15 05:24 PM)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: cowsRmeat] 1
#22089605 - 08/13/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like this thread's sense of humour, but not so much the message it's conveying.
In times like this it's your duty as an Ethno-gardener to propagate and spread this species to all and everyone who wants one before the ban is enforced. I wish I was in a position to mail plants to people, but I'm not. Everyone who has a plant should take cuttings now and get ready to ship them once rooted. 179 days is plenty enough time to produce more than a few plants.
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This is pretty dumb though, are the Canadian teens really going so crazy with smoking salvia in party settings and jumping out of windows enough to get this kind of attention from the government??? Geez.
Probably not but it does happen, as we know. It's mostly due to the stupidly high potency products being sold to uneducated people that is helping them make the case against it. The thing with high doses of Salvia is that you're not going to be put into a state where you can't move and the state you're shifted into is so fast, weird and often terrifying. It's not like DMT where you go catatonic and cannot move, even if you tried. Salvia can bring on hallucinations so strong, especially with extracted/enhanced material, that one tries to flee from them. The intoxicated person will jump up quickly and run like satan is on their heels. Salvia's space is very real and not like other psychedelics, where one knows what's real and what isn't.
People smoking potent extracts need a sitter. It's not an option, they NEED one for their own safety.
Quidding straight leaf or smoking it is far different. It's not so sudden, a slow shift and one you can build on. Once you smoke a potent extract and it's in your lungs, you're in for the ride. Good or bad.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: karode13]
#22091877 - 08/14/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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178 days left. may I post a source for my fellow canadians, regards to live salvia plants? A very reputable canadian vendor with which I ordered my salvia plant from, also, i've made cuttings which when rooted i'm willing to trade, sell? salvia in canada is legal, but, is a salvia buy and sell allowed on the shroomery?
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22092705 - 08/14/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think I know the vendor you are talking about, and if so, I'll vouch for them as well.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22094988 - 08/15/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We're not supposed to talk sources or trades here but there is always the marketplace (you will not have access for a while though, I think it's a month or two and 50 posts or something.) I believe you're not allowed to sell anything for cash there that any sponsor sells, but you can trade it for other stuff. If you just post some pics of your grow here then you may get some interest via PM. You just don't want to actively solicit trades in this subforum because it can get the thread locked.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22095121 - 08/15/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the vender i'd like to name lists salvia as diviners sage, and they recently added this to the page--Quote:
Sacred sage of the Mazateca Indians of Mexico used to induce divinatory visions. To help find lost items, or to solve problems of a material or spiritual nature, the Mazateca Indians would chew the fresh leaves. The leaves are very bitter when chewed but are slightly more palatable taken as a cold infusion of fresh crushed leaves, or smoked. Psychotropic effects similar to mescaline are attributed to compounds called salvinorins. Prefers humid, shaded conditions and humus-rich, moist soil. Rangy plant, reaching 2m/7ft. unless pruned.
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PLEASE NOTE: It will be illegal to possess and cultivate Salvia divinorum plants in Canada starting in February 2016. Plants will no longer be available from R-----rs herbs, after the current plant shipping season that ends in November 2015. In the meantime Canadian customers are required to sign and submit a consent form before we ship that attests that they are aware of the changing legal status of the plant.
For Canadians that enjoy salvia I'd suggest acquiring a live plant while its legal, suggested vendor is not listed on the shroomerys sponsors page(should be) but for canadians it is pretty much, the only place we can order a live salvia plant.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22095148 - 08/15/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Now I know who you're talking about, they aren't too far from where I live. 
Edit: The consent form thing sounds worrisome though.
Edited by psi (08/15/15 03:18 PM)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: psi]
#22095357 - 08/15/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had an order for 6 S. Divinorum plants with them, and this is the consent form. I believe it's Harmless, probaly keeps them in the legal loop eh, but idk and I --love this --
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Consent to Delivery of Salvia Divinorum Plants Purchased from -----rs Herbs
I hereby attest that I am at least 18 years of age.
I hereby further attest that I am aware of the impending change in the legal status of Salvia divinorum plants and that I have read and understand the “Order Amending Schedule IV to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (Salvia Divinorum)” published by Health Canada in the Canada Gazette on August 12, 2015 (copy attached).
I understand that 180 days from August 12, 2015, it will become illegal to grow or cultivate or possess live Salvia divinorum plants.
In consideration of receiving Salvia divinorum plant or plants, I appreciate, acknowledge and agree that there is a risk of legal consequences, and of associated loss and/or damage, relating to my purchasing, possession and cultivation of Salvia divinorum plants supplied to me and I agree to assume all risk of loss and/or damage. I hereby release from any and all present and future claims and liability and hold blameless and agree to idemnify and waive all claims against ---- R---ter and --ns Limited, doing business as “-----rs Herbs”, all all its employees, managers, officers and owners, in respect of any loss and/or damage or other legal or financial consequences, however caused, now and forever.
Dated at ______________________ this ____ day of ______, 2015.
Name of Purchaser:__________________________
Signature of Purchaser: _________________________________
Name of Witness: __________________________________
Signature of Witness: __________________________________
It fucking sucks that salvia D. is gonna be prohibited, though I don't expect any canadian bacon to break down my door, not for a handful of salvia plants, my plants will stay long after its legal fuck the police
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22095450 - 08/15/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah it just makes me wonder about how long they're going to hang on to that info and what will happen with it. I guess it's quite unlikely that any legal problems would result, but it makes me a bit uneasy.
I wonder if they get you to do the same thing if you go there in person to buy them.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: psi]
#22096758 - 08/15/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya fuck that form with witnesses and shit
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: P-O]
#22098890 - 08/16/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yup, that's the one I was talking about.
Kinda strange that the law will only cover the plants, and not dried material or extracts though... I guess they figure banning the one will eradicate the other...
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22100307 - 08/16/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quick! Get as many seeds and cuttings as you can, while you can!
I wish I would have before it became illegal here.
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agreed eh, Stock up, sally plants ain't hard to find in canada, there are 2 Legit vendors I know of, or, try the marketplace here on the shroomery. salvia will be illegal before we know it! it'll be a prohibited plant/substance in exactly 180 days from the time this thread went up. Makes me wonder, when it's no longer available in headshops/online will its popularity decrease? possible it could increase, prohibiting sally D. could be 'beneficial'(for drug dealers?)It'd be interesting to see Strong extracts and plant material turn into a street drug. I could see this as a possibility, not as an instantaneous change, though idk, we could equally see it vanish from our moose infested country. salvia has a Intense and unique effect I believe Prohibition won't bring a decreased popularity, but, will only change its market; It's gonna end up underneath the law, chillin' with the others: weed/shrooms/cocaine/meth...in 2016 salvia(metaphorically chilling )

Edited by salviasandwich (08/18/15 02:36 PM)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22107066 - 08/18/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Actually, I believe the change to the laws just penalizes trafficking the plant and its extracts. Growing plants for personal use will be ok if I read this right... "Simple possession will not be prohibited"
"First, this Order will add S. divinorum and its preparations and derivatives to Schedule IV to the CDSA. This will prohibit the production, trafficking, possession for the purposes of trafficking, importation and exportation and possession for the purposes of exportation of these substances, unless as authorized under the regulations or a section 56 exemption. Simple possession will not be prohibited under the CDSA. The maximum penalties associated with conducting the activities listed above will range from one year of imprisonment for a person found guilty of an offence prosecuted by summary conviction, to three years of imprisonment for a person found guilty of an offence prosecuted by indictment."
And...
"In response to public input received during the consultation process and subsequent analysis of this proposal, Health Canada has amended the original proposal to add S. divinorum to Schedule IV of the CDSA instead of to Schedule III of the CDSA. This change eliminates the prohibition on the simple possession of these substances and reduces the maximum penalties for a number of offenses, such as trafficking and import, from 10 years to 3 years of imprisonment."
Nobody has to burn their personal plants, yay!!
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
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And as well...
"Requests for exemptions under section 56 of the CDSA authorizing the use of these substances for traditional medical or spiritual purposes will be evaluated by the Minister on a case-by-case basis."
I suggest waiting for a more "liberal" Canadian govt to apply for this exemption.
It seems that they've made these laws to keep head shops from selling x times extracts to little Billy Canuck, but it'll be ok for Billy to visit his weird uncle and pick a couple big leaves.
Seems they've actually thought about protecting the plant from extinction
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
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And last but not least...
I'm assuming trading a plant amongst collectors and personal users would be perfectly legal seeing they would be for personal use ?!? As long as they aren't imported or exported?
And it mentions nothing about seeds, so trading would be again, legal, except import and export ?
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
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Quote:
"Requests for exemptions under section 56 of the CDSA authorizing the use of these substances for traditional medical or spiritual purposes will be evaluated by the Minister on a case-by-case basis."
I suggest waiting for a more "liberal" Canadian govt to apply for this exemption.
This guy might work?
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
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Agreed...
"The Liberals say there isn’t enough evidence to prove salvia is harmful or has long-term health effects. “The problem about this government is that it makes decisions based on some kind of ideological whim, and not based on good evidence,” said health critic Hedy Fry."
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
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Health critic Hedy Fry is right about that, though left or right I think the whole of our political system is ideological, "Drugs are bad(should be illegal)" is a conservative example, what the liberal speakers seem to be doing, is contradicting them saying, "Drugs are good" without the proof(science) this idea is meaningless, people who say "drugs are bad" equally have no solid proof. Left vs right, these are 2 collectively contradicting ideals that the people must choose between. but idk.. I need a beer. peace
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
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Canada sounds awesome.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
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canada is great, welcome to the land of the ice and snow! + peyote is legal Quote:
"Salvia's illegal, but you can still grow it, possess it, and smoke it."
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22112803 - 08/19/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well this is a bummer.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Zombi3]
#22112867 - 08/19/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: Well this is a bummer.
Yep bummer if you wanna import or export, but fine if you wanna grow for personal. So I would suggest if there are any Canucks wanting a plant, get it NOW!!
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
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I have a few. So I'm set.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Zombi3]
#22112945 - 08/19/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Someone should do a little "exporting" before the bill passes 
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become illegal schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22112967 - 08/19/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I would suggest if there are any Canucks wanting a plant, get it NOW!!
absolutely! i'd push to get one before winter hits, a plant wouldnt survive the canadian postal system during that time of year.
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If I could get cuttings to root proper in some rockwool I'd gift a ton of them away. For some reason salvia d is the hardest plant I've ever taken cuttings from. None of my buddies have problems but for me only 1/5 cuttings will survive, sometimes less. I don't know what my problem is
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Zombi3]
#22113000 - 08/19/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Brought my plant inside. It was cooking in the sun, +(dry asfuck) no humidity. looks like any ordinary house plant. 5 monther Mother.
Took some cuttings from her but lost 2/2, both rotted Dunno what I did wrong ,(vermiculite + water + rooting hormone + 5 inch cuttings, in seperate shot glasses. Maybe I fucked up with the rooting hormones?)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Zombi3]
#22113020 - 08/19/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Experimenting with these little things I got for cut roses from flower store, promising for clones. You can fill them full of water and they don't leak very easily.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22113062 - 08/19/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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great idea, looks promising.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22113151 - 08/19/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, I'm gonna try packing them with wet soil mix next. That might be the ticket!
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22113428 - 08/19/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What might the best soil mix consist of?
Edit: Gonna Take a cutting.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22113642 - 08/19/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sold on promix brother, add extra perlite
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22113792 - 08/19/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right on hope vermiculite might work, got no perlite (vermiculite+promix+4 inch cutting)-( added water and Microwaved the soil solution for 9 minutes in hopes of mold prevention) if it roots i'ma giv'R up to my buddy, not for free of course, but for a pack of cigarettes.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22115112 - 08/20/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep bummer if you wanna import or export, but fine if you wanna grow for personal
Import/export does this include buying and selling salvia within canada? it must? This bill doesnt seem so bad because if not then essentially this bill does nothing except to make a crime of salvia crossing the border. sending a plant within canada so long as it stays in canada is not a crime and will not stop anybody from doing business. though I don't think the suppliers think the same because they say they will end all salvia sales after the bill's in effect. someone should tell them otherwise. Referring to all live salvia suppliers in canada.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22115145 - 08/20/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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""For retailers of S. divinorum and gardeners cultivating the plant in question, compliance will involve ceasing the sale of S. divinorum, as well as its cultivation, given that cultivation is captured under the prohibited activity of production."" Taken from the bill
Maan This bill is going to be a joke, when referring to production I think its meant to slash small time plant distribution business's profits regarding salvia sales. Idk though, wish they'd say Why this bill needs to be like why they're regulating another plant, maybe regulation gives them more profits$$$? substance regulation and jail sentences are pricey. As a tax payer I'm rippin pissed(and hgh on amphetamines). sorry I hate rants, reading and writing them. So again sorry. fcking government! Rippin' pissed.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22115307 - 08/20/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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salviasandwich said: ""For retailers of S. divinorum and gardeners cultivating the plant in question, compliance will involve ceasing the sale of S. divinorum, as well as its cultivation, given that cultivation is captured under the prohibited activity of production."" Taken from the bill
Maan This bill is going to be a joke, when referring to production I think its meant to slash small time plant distribution business's profits regarding salvia sales. Idk though, wish they'd say Why this bill needs to be like why they're regulating another plant, maybe regulation gives them more profits$$$? substance regulation and jail sentences are pricey. As a tax payer I'm rippin pissed(and hgh on amphetamines). sorry I hate rants, reading and writing them. So again sorry. fcking government! Rippin' pissed.
Ok I gues it will be illegal to cultivate? But legal to possess dried leaves? K So the patient who is growing a plant or two to supply him or herself with a supply of medicine in the form of dried leaves gets charged for cultivation.
I think it would be easy to make the case in order to have the medicine, a plant must be grown?!?
It would be like legalizing dried cannabis but making growing the plant, which would be producing legal buds, a chargeable offense. Wha?!?
I think this is a rushed and not very well thought bill.
Like what exactly is illegal about growing a plant whose only source of activity is produced in the leaves, which possession of these leaves is not illegal?
What laws are being broken? The law of growing a plant? Does this apply to tomato plants?
I'm confused
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22115425 - 08/20/15 05:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm kinda thinking production of salvia refers to making extracts and/or leaf, and if you sell it. but idk I can't say, I don't understand this bill. I'm gonna finish reading it. I'ma read it top to bottom, be on the lookout for loopholes and shit. But first. speed bumps.+ +hdmp-28 bumps
edit: TERRIBLE combo, Burns burrBurns like fucking hell!
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When] 1
#22115514 - 08/20/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's such a generic looking plant that I doubt many people are going to get caught growing it for personal use. To a layman it's pretty much indistinguishable from a green variety of coleus or something.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: psi]
#22115695 - 08/20/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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True that.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22115721 - 08/20/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The people out their that are bragging too their friends and their friends uncles that they grow "Salvia, divinorum" will get all the heat.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22115792 - 08/20/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read the amendment shit twice over, Updated the original post with some new findings. Worst is growing salvia will be considered production, production of a schedule IV substance.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: psi]
#22133955 - 08/24/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: It's such a generic looking plant that I doubt many people are going to get caught growing it for personal use. To a layman it's pretty much indistinguishable from a green variety of coleus or something.
no doubt eh, I agree man, there aint no way to know salvia divinorum from nearly 1000 other salvia species. i'll go as far to say All canadians growing salvia, eh 'don't worry about this bill'
No, I'm not here to tell you to destroy your plants and uphold this new, in the big picture salvia not a big thing so Canada scheduling it will probably never make it as news, not for more than a day, this bill states as a law abidding canadian citizen its not your right to grow divinorum I see it as a deeper problem as it's your right as a human being to grow and smoke what'chyou wanna grow and smoke the scheduling/prohibition of EVERY interesting plant our world offers, man, it is just wrong on too many levels.
The reason I've made an account on the shroomery was just so people could be aware of this new bill before it comes in effect, urging all fellow Canadians to read through the legislature for themselves.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22911258 - 02/16/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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DRUNK AS FUCK! I got clean quit METH and cocaine AND smoking!! FUCK YEAH, FUCK THE POLICE!!!!
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22911299 - 02/16/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: ferrel_human]
#22914228 - 02/17/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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What god died that gave the human race the right to say that something of nature is so bad it needs to be eradicated- just because it allows you to experience an novel state of awareness? I mean how could cacti, cannabis, mushrooms, salvia, and other innocent beings of nature be more dangerous to humanity then the F-ed government policies like nuke manufacture and GMOs.
I am getting very sick of the banning of everything that produces a trip or feelings of euphoria. I think the stiffs should be forced to take a dose of everything they decide to ban before denying other people a chance to experience it.
Honestly, what is the true goal and spirit of these laws? Are were actual human beings, or are we just disposable property owned by the State, like livestock owned by a farmer? It makes me wish that Mother nature would make a horrible, incurable, and extremely contagious plague that somehow spares only those who actually give a shit. To be honest i'm surprised She has not yet snuffed the human race out entirely and took her Earth back. I am truly ashamed to be a member of this species at this point.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#22915321 - 02/17/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just found out about this today. this is stupid
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Fuzz-nutter]
#22915571 - 02/17/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Guns don't kill people. Stupid governments kill people. I hate that holier than thou bullshit.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Fuzz-nutter]
#22977176 - 03/05/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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How's things going now, post ban?
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