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When
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22113151 - 08/19/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, I'm gonna try packing them with wet soil mix next. That might be the ticket!
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22113428 - 08/19/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What might the best soil mix consist of?
Edit: Gonna Take a cutting.
Edited by salviasandwich (08/19/15 06:39 PM)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22113642 - 08/19/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sold on promix brother, add extra perlite
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22113792 - 08/19/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right on hope vermiculite might work, got no perlite (vermiculite+promix+4 inch cutting)-( added water and Microwaved the soil solution for 9 minutes in hopes of mold prevention) if it roots i'ma giv'R up to my buddy, not for free of course, but for a pack of cigarettes.
Edited by salviasandwich (08/19/15 08:01 PM)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22115112 - 08/20/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep bummer if you wanna import or export, but fine if you wanna grow for personal
Import/export does this include buying and selling salvia within canada? it must? This bill doesnt seem so bad because if not then essentially this bill does nothing except to make a crime of salvia crossing the border. sending a plant within canada so long as it stays in canada is not a crime and will not stop anybody from doing business. though I don't think the suppliers think the same because they say they will end all salvia sales after the bill's in effect. someone should tell them otherwise. Referring to all live salvia suppliers in canada.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22115145 - 08/20/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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""For retailers of S. divinorum and gardeners cultivating the plant in question, compliance will involve ceasing the sale of S. divinorum, as well as its cultivation, given that cultivation is captured under the prohibited activity of production."" Taken from the bill
Maan This bill is going to be a joke, when referring to production I think its meant to slash small time plant distribution business's profits regarding salvia sales. Idk though, wish they'd say Why this bill needs to be like why they're regulating another plant, maybe regulation gives them more profits$$$? substance regulation and jail sentences are pricey. As a tax payer I'm rippin pissed(and hgh on amphetamines). sorry I hate rants, reading and writing them. So again sorry. fcking government! Rippin' pissed.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22115307 - 08/20/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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salviasandwich said: ""For retailers of S. divinorum and gardeners cultivating the plant in question, compliance will involve ceasing the sale of S. divinorum, as well as its cultivation, given that cultivation is captured under the prohibited activity of production."" Taken from the bill
Maan This bill is going to be a joke, when referring to production I think its meant to slash small time plant distribution business's profits regarding salvia sales. Idk though, wish they'd say Why this bill needs to be like why they're regulating another plant, maybe regulation gives them more profits$$$? substance regulation and jail sentences are pricey. As a tax payer I'm rippin pissed(and hgh on amphetamines). sorry I hate rants, reading and writing them. So again sorry. fcking government! Rippin' pissed.
Ok I gues it will be illegal to cultivate? But legal to possess dried leaves? K So the patient who is growing a plant or two to supply him or herself with a supply of medicine in the form of dried leaves gets charged for cultivation.
I think it would be easy to make the case in order to have the medicine, a plant must be grown?!?
It would be like legalizing dried cannabis but making growing the plant, which would be producing legal buds, a chargeable offense. Wha?!?
I think this is a rushed and not very well thought bill.
Like what exactly is illegal about growing a plant whose only source of activity is produced in the leaves, which possession of these leaves is not illegal?
What laws are being broken? The law of growing a plant? Does this apply to tomato plants?
I'm confused
Edited by When (08/20/15 04:27 AM)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22115425 - 08/20/15 05:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm kinda thinking production of salvia refers to making extracts and/or leaf, and if you sell it. but idk I can't say, I don't understand this bill. I'm gonna finish reading it. I'ma read it top to bottom, be on the lookout for loopholes and shit. But first. speed bumps.+ +hdmp-28 bumps
edit: TERRIBLE combo, Burns burrBurns like fucking hell!
Edited by salviasandwich (08/20/15 05:49 AM)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When] 1
#22115514 - 08/20/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's such a generic looking plant that I doubt many people are going to get caught growing it for personal use. To a layman it's pretty much indistinguishable from a green variety of coleus or something.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: psi]
#22115695 - 08/20/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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True that.
Edited by salviasandwich (08/20/15 08:31 AM)
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22115721 - 08/20/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The people out their that are bragging too their friends and their friends uncles that they grow "Salvia, divinorum" will get all the heat.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22115792 - 08/20/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read the amendment shit twice over, Updated the original post with some new findings. Worst is growing salvia will be considered production, production of a schedule IV substance.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: psi]
#22133955 - 08/24/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: It's such a generic looking plant that I doubt many people are going to get caught growing it for personal use. To a layman it's pretty much indistinguishable from a green variety of coleus or something.
no doubt eh, I agree man, there aint no way to know salvia divinorum from nearly 1000 other salvia species. i'll go as far to say All canadians growing salvia, eh 'don't worry about this bill'
No, I'm not here to tell you to destroy your plants and uphold this new, in the big picture salvia not a big thing so Canada scheduling it will probably never make it as news, not for more than a day, this bill states as a law abidding canadian citizen its not your right to grow divinorum I see it as a deeper problem as it's your right as a human being to grow and smoke what'chyou wanna grow and smoke the scheduling/prohibition of EVERY interesting plant our world offers, man, it is just wrong on too many levels.
The reason I've made an account on the shroomery was just so people could be aware of this new bill before it comes in effect, urging all fellow Canadians to read through the legislature for themselves.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: When]
#22911258 - 02/16/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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DRUNK AS FUCK! I got clean quit METH and cocaine AND smoking!! FUCK YEAH, FUCK THE POLICE!!!!
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: salviasandwich]
#22911299 - 02/16/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: ferrel_human]
#22914228 - 02/17/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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What god died that gave the human race the right to say that something of nature is so bad it needs to be eradicated- just because it allows you to experience an novel state of awareness? I mean how could cacti, cannabis, mushrooms, salvia, and other innocent beings of nature be more dangerous to humanity then the F-ed government policies like nuke manufacture and GMOs.
I am getting very sick of the banning of everything that produces a trip or feelings of euphoria. I think the stiffs should be forced to take a dose of everything they decide to ban before denying other people a chance to experience it.
Honestly, what is the true goal and spirit of these laws? Are were actual human beings, or are we just disposable property owned by the State, like livestock owned by a farmer? It makes me wish that Mother nature would make a horrible, incurable, and extremely contagious plague that somehow spares only those who actually give a shit. To be honest i'm surprised She has not yet snuffed the human race out entirely and took her Earth back. I am truly ashamed to be a member of this species at this point.
Sorry about the psychological vomit, i feel better now.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#22915321 - 02/17/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just found out about this today. this is stupid
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Fuzz-nutter]
#22915571 - 02/17/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Guns don't kill people. Stupid governments kill people. I hate that holier than thou bullshit.
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Re: In 2016 Sally D. WILL become schedule IV, Canada [Re: Fuzz-nutter]
#22977176 - 03/05/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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How's things going now, post ban?
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