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Heisencybin
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Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal
#22088102 - 08/13/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey everyone how goes the shroomery world out there? So I've had to quit weed recently. I am one who does experience withdrawals when I quit. I have not gone longer than 3 weeks in 6 years ish. Everytime I trip on shrooms, Ive had weed, but would abstain until the comedown. My question is: would tripping during these first few weeks of marijuana withdrawal increase likelihood for a bad trip? When going through the initial first days/weeks of quiting weed, I get really bad depression, anxiety, insomnia, sweats and loss of appetite. I want to trip, but i feel like it may just intensify my withdrawal symptoms. Anyone try this?
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Heisencybin]
#22088159 - 08/13/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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id say it wouldnt... stopping marijuana isnt that bad. but if anything take a few hits you'll feel great.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Marihuana]
#22088205 - 08/13/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cannabis withdrawal? LOL Why are you quitting? Mushrooms have been shown to help one quit smoking tobacco, maybe they will help you quit weed also
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Marihuana]
#22088211 - 08/13/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could that just make you want to smoke much worse since you've always had it while tripping?
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I had to quit weed for probation, but I have tripped six or several times. It actually helps the depression. When you start to dream again, it's pretty cool. Then smoke every few months, you'll get blazed.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: SizlChest]
#22088235 - 08/13/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I still dream a lot on weed. I still have hella lucid dreams on weed. That's something I've never understood, I hear countless people say weed suppresses dreams but luckily for me it's not the case.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Zombi3]
#22088243 - 08/13/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Before I went to jail, I smoked nearly everyday for 15 years. I was in jail 36 days. After the 15-18th day, I started having hellish nightmares. Since on probation, I smoke for a few days after a UA, and stop dreaming. They come back after a week or so. Strange dreams, that I really hold onto waking for about an hour....
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Heisencybin
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: SizlChest]
#22088475 - 08/13/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes if you smoke for years continuously, you may have psychological withdrawal. Which manifests as physical symptoms for some like me. Maybe not evwryone. It's mostly the depression I'm nervous of getting worse during a trip, but it sounds like it should help. I'll start small and redose during my trip.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Heisencybin]
#22088619 - 08/13/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had to quit because I may get an ovi and I want to be clean for my court date. But I've actually been planning on quitting or taking an extended break soon anyways. Now it's not really a personal choice anymore.
I know cannabis withdrawal is a joke compared to other addictions, but the mind is extremely fragile and I'd hate for it to ruin a shroom trip. But i also think it could be nice and give me some guidance in this tender situation while making quitting weed actually easier after a good trip. Just was wondering if anyone has tripped during this emotionally fragile state? Again, it's not like I'm dying here, but the depression and anxiety from weed cessation is undeniable at least for me.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Heisencybin]
#22089250 - 08/13/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got on probation and quitting weed isn't hard its just something I get mad about and rant and rave. But I started smoking cigarettes every time I wanted to smoke some bud. It helps but the issue is I got addicted to cigs maybe try something that feels sorta weedish on the comedown nitrous is great but short lasting. Ive yet to find anything but spice that feels like bud and spice is just but try having a cig just dont get addicted there way harder to quit than even the dankest bud.
But I doubt it will affect your trip you could get some kratom and use that to boost your mood beforehand and avoid cigs all together. Or just eat the shrooms dont smoke bud and maybe you will no longer feel the need shrooms generally are good by themselves as long as you're not suicidal depressed. But maybe have a sitter with a cig or two so you can smoke something if you really start to freak out but dont pick up a habit the damn things are addictive.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: thewanderer25]
#22089679 - 08/14/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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KRATOM! Also yes shrooms alone are UHMAZING
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: gay mushroom]
#22089713 - 08/14/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know if it will affect your trip at all - it might a little bit, because it will essentially be a new experience for you. All your prior trips have had weed so this will be a fresh experience.
I think in the long run it will definitely help you get over the psychological parts of your withdrawal by reducing your desire to smoke. At least, for me, after tripping I didn't wanna touch any drugs for a long time.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Zombi3]
#22089734 - 08/14/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: I still dream a lot on weed. I still have hella lucid dreams on weed. That's something I've never understood, I hear countless people say weed suppresses dreams but luckily for me it's not the case.
I dream a lot as well, I just woke up from a long dream where I was back in the States and moving to Europe, but it was a mess and I had my bong and all my stuff there and wondered how it got there hahaha, then turned lucid... long dream... but yeah, I do not have a loss of dreams with weed (I vape in the morning and at night before bed)
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Marijuana withdrawal hahahaha lol. Try giving up any opiates after a period of time then tell me about marijuana withdrawal. Marijuana withdrawal Your fuckin killin me lol
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Heisencybin
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Did you not read my reply idiot? I said it's a joke compared to other withdrawals, and mostly psychological. But definitely real for some like me.
Anyways, thanks for the other replies. I do have some kratom I may utilize just to keep my spirits up. I'm doing a lot better mentally today so I may just wait a little longer for my neurotransmitters to stabilize a bit more and my confidence to trip increases. It's just the first week or so I feel kinda down, some insomnia, nausea and that hot/cold feeling of your body detoxing. I would hate to make those symptoms magnified during a trip is all. But the main concensus seems that it may actually help ease into the daily sobriety. Which makes total sense. I always become more health-conscious and self aware during and after a trip. Perhaps tomorrow I'll be up for it. Hard to say, but I'll keep posted
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Heisencybin]
#22091089 - 08/14/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh yeah and my favorite thing about quitting weed is I switch to lucid dreaming. Best hobby/skill ever. We're all dreamers here. Lucid dreaming is the ultimate natural trip.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Heisencybin]
#22091141 - 08/14/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man I remember when I got put on probation and found out it would last at least a year (if I smoked no bud) I was so pissed off I literally thought of putting myself in a coma so I wouldn't be awake during the year (plus who knows weed may be legal when I awoke). Its all good though just wait a month or two without smoking and you will no longer care all that much. Time flys by when im not stoned 24/7 a month will feel like a week. But ima start blowing dro as soon as im done with my PO.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: thewanderer25]
#22101909 - 08/17/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well yesterday was day 5 of no weed and I decided to start off with a low dose of 1.5 grams in a tea. I also took some kratom to keep my confidence up and anxiety/depression at bay. And to be honest, I don't think it was a good idea. At least for me. The first 2 hours were ok. I meditated with my mindfold and listened to nature sounds as I usually do while shrooming, but things started to go downhill after a while. My anxiety and depression got pretty bad and I had to take more kratom to keep myself from an emotional wreck. But the mood swings were pretty intense and unenjoyable. I don't recommend it until one is more emotionally stable after quitting weed. I'll probably try again in a couple weeks or so.
But one positive aspect of my low dose trip was the clarity of the consequences of drug addiction and mental disorders. The trip basically showed me how fucked up I'll be if I continue to use drugs this often (daily cannabis, daily kratom for ibs symptoms, and tripping too often on acid and shrooms). I was able to see the benefits of sobriety and who I can become without drugs. So although the trip was kinda rough, it showed me the potential of how fucked up I could get if I continue to use this often and the potential of who I can be with a stable and sober mind. I have goals and motivation to become a man with no dependencies on any substances. I am young and grateful to have this insight before things got any worse. I will never go back to daily use of any substance. Just can't do it.
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: Heisencybin]
#22102684 - 08/17/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psycological withdrawl can be a pretty powerfull thing but I think you might be a little too hung up on it, counting how many days you are into "withdrawl" and stuff. I sugguest taking up a hobby to forget about it.
I guess Kratom can have a bit of a nasty little withdrawl so that might be a bad choice too.
Ive been a junkie for 12 years, IV heroin/cocaine and a massive benzo habit, I am an Expert in withdrawl.
Withdrawl is much easier to handle in jail because you dony have a choice, just have to accept that its not possible to fix it. Since you are on probation, accept that you cant get high any more and find something else to do. Find a hobby and forget about weed
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Re: Shrooms during cannabis withdrawal [Re: mushpunx]
#22102700 - 08/17/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shrooms killed marijuana withdrawal for me when was going hard with habitual use.
I didn't crave it after that trip.
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