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Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged
    #22086488 - 08/13/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:wonka:

..... oh my f****** god that was awesome heavy listening! I have never tripped on music that pushed me and challenge to me like that. Part of me wants to explore more but seriously that music hung over me for like an hour after we turned it off and threw on some Grateful Dead.

.... that free form acid jazz is on another plane! :-)


... I kept tripping on thinking about when I would see dudes at shows with Miles t-shirts on. .....now I get it.....


I don't know if Miles Davis is f****** with me but I avoided a couple of the crazier ones like dark Magus! I tried an album called big fun! I don't know if miles is f****** with me but that album was not big fun. More like a big mountain being dropped on my face him pushing me to the center of existence. I didn't know if I was f****** coming or going. Some serious f****** heavy listening.

..... please share your Miles Davis experiences! :-)


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22087358 - 08/13/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Check out "Kind of Blue".  What a fucking album!  I'd agree that Miles has that sound that can't really be mimicked.  Brought back alot of memories with this thread.


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22087519 - 08/13/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The only Miles i could find was a beautifully ripped SACD of Bitches Brew
After vaping a shitload of undried buds i didnt want to post at first, but thanks to your thread i put on Miles running the Voodoo down

Now thanks to Miles i got motivated to post

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holy shit im high af and this sound is just perfect
edit; i look at the player, the next song is just about done already and i didnt even notice it


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: thoraxx]
    #22087600 - 08/13/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The titles which I remember I liked are Bitches Brew and Lost In Spain.
Yes this form of jazz is massive.

Try John Coltrane too. There are many more decent jazz artists (most from the past) out there but I used to only listen to jazz part-time. I do feel it is the music genre which actually flows in my veins naturally, in various forms.

Last time I tripped on cacti tar I listened to Masada's album "Vav" in a proper stereo speaker setup, quite loud. It was a great experience. I could hear all these detailed sounds. I feel I should listen to more jazz next time I score some cacti. It is such an intellectual music, goes very well with cacti in my opinion.

If you follow John Zorn's trail of musical destruction, you cannot go wrong.

I remember it must have been around ten years ago, I must have been still underage. Me, my bros and mates were playing cards completely stoned. It was in the days when smoking bud would make us TRIP. We were listening to John Zorn and when "Cat-O-Nine-Tails" started, everything changed. We were imagining various scenes which this music seems to be a soundtrack to... Brilliant. We stopped playing and went quiet. At the end of the track everyone came back to reality asking each other "what just happened for the past ten minutes?" I also recall smoking for the first time after a few months break on that day, which made it hit me quality.


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22087609 - 08/13/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh and "Spanish key"


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22092171 - 08/14/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

During a strong trip, there's something about jazz that can push me over the edge, it just seems incomprehensible, like it's deliberately fucking with my head by refusing to stick to a simple rhythm.

I remember a trip that started to go south partly because the music was set to shuffle and began playing "Jumpin at the Woodside" by Count Basie....it's a fairly jolly track but it sounded so alien that it made me realize how strong the trip was getting....especially when my bedclothes started to form the curtains of a stage in some kind of nightclub backdrop to the jazz.

Then I got some freaky Boards of Canada track where a woman is repeating a string of numbers....followed by pounding acid techno with distorted echoing vocal samples about 'False Identity Papers' and fleeing to Argentina ....a confusing and nasty combination of music tracks :lol:

Miles Davis could be interesting on the kind of dose where you are capable of paying close attention to music, but otherwise......heavy listening indeed.


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
    #22092196 - 08/14/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's the beauty of it to me.  It reflects itself in the motion of letting go into the unknown, always resonated to me.


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
    #22092592 - 08/14/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Aldebaran said:
During a strong trip, there's something about jazz that can push me over the edge, it just seems incomprehensible, like it's deliberately fucking with my head by refusing to stick to a simple rhythm.

I remember a trip that started to go south partly because the music was set to shuffle and began playing "Jumpin at the Woodside" by Count Basie....it's a fairly jolly track but it sounded so alien that it made me realize how strong the trip was getting....especially when my bedclothes started to form the curtains of a stage in some kind of nightclub backdrop to the jazz.

Then I got some freaky Boards of Canada track where a woman is repeating a string of numbers....followed by pounding acid techno with distorted echoing vocal samples about 'False Identity Papers' and fleeing to Argentina ....a confusing and nasty combination of music tracks :lol:

Miles Davis could be interesting on the kind of dose where you are capable of paying close attention to music, but otherwise......heavy listening indeed.




Would you be able to find the title of that BOC song for me please?


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22092726 - 08/14/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Rock n' roll holds my soul with ragas being the spirit, but ahh.... jazz is the heart and head. Kind of Blue quite literally changed my life. In the future we will speak of Davis, Monk, Gillespie, Ellington, Coltrane, Armstrong, Parker, Basie and a number of others with the same sort of reverence that classical and baroque composers hold today. Evolution of culture is a never ending fascination.

Art is one of the most profound gifts the human species has ever recognised. Just look at Rodin's "Le Penseur" (the thinker) - the embodiment of man contemplating itself. What novelty lay in the divide between the great writers, artists, musicians, mathematicians, physicists to that of the hero's antagonist (Mao Tse-tung, Mussolini et all). I guess you can't know the light without having darkness as its juxtaposition.

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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22092877 - 08/14/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Would you be able to find the title of that BOC song for me please?




Reading my post back, I make it sound like there's an undiscovered BOC acid techno track, sorry for any disappointment....the reference to acid techno is to a separate track - Richard H Kirk "With False Identity".

The BOC track with the numbers is "gyroscope" from the album Geogaddi.

There's a good sci-fi horror film called "Banshee Chapter", with a plot involving DMT and also so-called Numbers Stations. This reminded me of the BOC track, and sure enough the wikipedia article states that the samples on this track are from a numbers station:

Quote:

Samples from Conet Project recordings, most identifiably that listed as Tcp D1 3 Counting Control Irdial are used by Scottish electronic music outfit Boards of Canada on their 2002 album Geogaddi, most conspicuously on the track "Gyroscope"




Anyway, after listening to some of the tracks on Geogaddi again, I  discover that it was actually "The Devil in the Details" that freaked me out during that trip....no numbers but still weird. The vocal is creepy and distorted, and I couldn't tell how much of the distortion was due to the drugs.

Also there's a disconnect between the unsettling voice and the affirming kind of self-help statements she's reading out. I can't "just relax", my "inner receptive centre" is collapsing around me , and just listening to that voice I can feel the reality slipping away around me....

***

One jazzy track that I do have in my tripping playlist is "Hypocrite" by Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra:



Coming after 90s European techno on my playlist it does come as a bit of a surprise in the middle of a trip, but the rhythm is fairly danceable and funky so it doesn't jar my ears too much.

Even so, there's often a comment in my trip journals along the lines of "JAZZ. Now? Why? Who chose this fucking music?"

I dare anyone to trip on a huge dose while listening to one of those recordings of numbers stations and nothing else...now that would be freaky. But not very jazzy, admittedly. Unless Miles Davis had his own numbers station. Which is unlikely.


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Soul-Shine]
    #22094084 - 08/15/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Rock n' roll holds my soul with ragas being the spirit, but ahh.... jazz is the heart and head. Kind of Blue quite literally changed my life. In the future we will speak of Davis, Monk, Gillespie, Ellington, Coltrane, Armstrong, Parker, Basie and a number of others with the same sort of reverence that classical and baroque composers hold today. Evolution of culture is a never ending fascination.

Art is one of the most profound gifts the human species has ever recognised. Just look at Rodin's "Le Penseur" (the thinker) - the embodiment of man contemplating itself. What novelty lay in the divide between the great writers, artists, musicians, mathematicians, physicists to that of the hero's antagonist (Mao Tse-tung, Mussolini et all). I guess you can't know the light without having darkness as its juxtaposition.

Being born a human... what an extraordinary privilege





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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
    #22094117 - 08/15/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Would you be able to find the title of that BOC song for me please?




Reading my post back, I make it sound like there's an undiscovered BOC acid techno track, sorry for any disappointment....the reference to acid techno is to a separate track - Richard H Kirk "With False Identity".

The BOC track with the numbers is "gyroscope" from the album Geogaddi.

There's a good sci-fi horror film called "Banshee Chapter", with a plot involving DMT and also so-called Numbers Stations. This reminded me of the BOC track, and sure enough the wikipedia article states that the samples on this track are from a numbers station:

Quote:

Samples from Conet Project recordings, most identifiably that listed as Tcp D1 3 Counting Control Irdial are used by Scottish electronic music outfit Boards of Canada on their 2002 album Geogaddi, most conspicuously on the track "Gyroscope"




Anyway, after listening to some of the tracks on Geogaddi again, I  discover that it was actually "The Devil in the Details" that freaked me out during that trip....no numbers but still weird. The vocal is creepy and distorted, and I couldn't tell how much of the distortion was due to the drugs.

Also there's a disconnect between the unsettling voice and the affirming kind of self-help statements she's reading out. I can't "just relax", my "inner receptive centre" is collapsing around me , and just listening to that voice I can feel the reality slipping away around me....

***

One jazzy track that I do have in my tripping playlist is "Hypocrite" by Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra:



Coming after 90s European techno on my playlist it does come as a bit of a surprise in the middle of a trip, but the rhythm is fairly danceable and funky so it doesn't jar my ears too much.

Even so, there's often a comment in my trip journals along the lines of "JAZZ. Now? Why? Who chose this fucking music?"

I dare anyone to trip on a huge dose while listening to one of those recordings of numbers stations and nothing else...now that would be freaky. But not very jazzy, admittedly. Unless Miles Davis had his own numbers station. Which is unlikely.





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NUmber station....!...wild!....I learned something new !.....so fucking wierd!

..... as part of me couldn't handle it and needed to turn it off in lieu of some Grateful Dead and Jimi Hendrix, another part of me wanted to follow that rabbit hole deeper and deeper. When miles would blow that trumpet and ride high over the rhythmlessness.....my god that was dark and deep.....so intellectual..... my main thought was that this was some next level or other worldly type music. I just kept tripping on those dudes I see it shows with the mile shirt and the nerd glasses! I just imagine some dude on 10 hits in an apartment in New York City going deep deep down the rabito with some Miles Davis! I'm not joking that s*** hungover ass for like a half hour to 45 minutes after we changed it over to some rock music!

....
. But another part of us really wants to go back and stick with it and ride the wave all the way through but we just didn't know if you wanted to suck up two hours of our trip like that. S*** is some challenging listening for sure :-)!:vibin:


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22094138 - 08/15/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)




..... I am totally addicted to this music right now I find it to be some of the most chill and sumptuous come up music I have ever found I mean on the come up it's so awesome! Can anyone point me to more music like this I can't find anything quite like it!?

  LINDBERG HEMMER FOUNDATION!:bigyesnod:


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22095065 - 08/15/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Can anyone point me to more music like this I can't find anything quite like it!?




Scandinavian Supermarket Music???
:fearandloathing:
That track did send me into a kind of trance by the end... staring into space.

The only thing it vaguely reminded me of was Ralph Myerz - chilled out and slightly cheesy





Maybe searching for "lounge music" or "chill out music" would be your best bet


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
    #22095123 - 08/15/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm definitely playing some jazz on my next trip, haha.


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    #22096039 - 08/15/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm definitely playing some jazz on my next trip, haha.




.... me too. We're talking about doing jazz almost entirely on the next one :-)!:bigyesnod::wonka::awethumb:


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
    #22097358 - 08/16/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Would you be able to find the title of that BOC song for me please?




Reading my post back, I make it sound like there's an undiscovered BOC acid techno track, sorry for any disappointment....the reference to acid techno is to a separate track - Richard H Kirk "With False Identity".

The BOC track with the numbers is "gyroscope" from the album Geogaddi.

There's a good sci-fi horror film called "Banshee Chapter", with a plot involving DMT and also so-called Numbers Stations. This reminded me of the BOC track, and sure enough the wikipedia article states that the samples on this track are from a numbers station:

Quote:

Samples from Conet Project recordings, most identifiably that listed as Tcp D1 3 Counting Control Irdial are used by Scottish electronic music outfit Boards of Canada on their 2002 album Geogaddi, most conspicuously on the track "Gyroscope"




Anyway, after listening to some of the tracks on Geogaddi again, I  discover that it was actually "The Devil in the Details" that freaked me out during that trip....no numbers but still weird. The vocal is creepy and distorted, and I couldn't tell how much of the distortion was due to the drugs.

Also there's a disconnect between the unsettling voice and the affirming kind of self-help statements she's reading out. I can't "just relax", my "inner receptive centre" is collapsing around me , and just listening to that voice I can feel the reality slipping away around me....

***

One jazzy track that I do have in my tripping playlist is "Hypocrite" by Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra:



Coming after 90s European techno on my playlist it does come as a bit of a surprise in the middle of a trip, but the rhythm is fairly danceable and funky so it doesn't jar my ears too much.

Even so, there's often a comment in my trip journals along the lines of "JAZZ. Now? Why? Who chose this fucking music?"

I dare anyone to trip on a huge dose while listening to one of those recordings of numbers stations and nothing else...now that would be freaky. But not very jazzy, admittedly. Unless Miles Davis had his own numbers station. Which is unlikely.




Yo I knew what you mean, BOC track and some techno track as two separate songs.

About the number stations... Lemme tell you all my story.

I must have been 17 at the time when I shared a room with two dudes monday-friday during school times. We used to do many interesting things there.

Once we started experimenting with radio receiver, finding russian and german radio stations on short waves and whot not. Listening to the white noise and "DJ-ing" the mind splitting frequencies/disortions. One of us had a (what was then considered as much advanced) mobile phone with voice recording function. We recorded all this crazy shit.

At some point suddenly we caught a guy reading out random numbers. He was pronouncing each and every number carefully, and making every effort to sound clearly. He sounded like English was not his native language. I'm not able to tell which country was he from.

We all found this very surprising and eerie. The dude repeated the same sequence of numbers, which was ending with ZERO-ZERO-ZERO. After the sequence ended, the transmission ended. No music, no more speech. Nothing. We waited and waited, but nothing happened.

At the time we didn't know anything about so called "number stations". Never heard of them before.

We have recorded all this with the mobile phone. It was either a pixelated video or a voice record. I believe I still have it somewhere in the depths of my PC hard drive.

Few years later, after when all us 3 moved away in different directions, I received a message on facebook from my fried. He sent me a link to a website which was packed with recordings of "number stations" and there was a bunch of people investigating it since 70's or something.
I then realized how lucky we were to experience this.
I still have no bloody idea what these number stations truly are. But I guess these are some spies or secret agents sharing encrypted information which only they understand.



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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22097602 - 08/16/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I still have no bloody idea what these number stations truly are. But I guess these are some spies or secret agents sharing encrypted information which only they understand.




Just from reading that wikipedia article, it would seem they were definitely used as a convenient way to transmit encoded messages to spies.

The interesting thing is that because the numbers themselves are random, there is no way to decrypt the messages without the key.....so there is no way to be sure what all of these numbers stations are or were. I like the idea that some of these stations had a "signature", like a short piece of music, to identify them, makes them intriguing:

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The prelude, introduction, or call-up of a transmission (from which stations' informal nicknames are often derived) includes some kind of identifier, either for the station itself and/or for the intended recipient. This can take the form of numeric or radio-alphabet "code names" (e.g. "Charlie India Oscar", "250 250 250", "Six-Niner-Zero-Oblique-Five-Four"), characteristic phrases (e.g. "¡Atención!", "Achtung!", "Ready? Ready?", "1234567890"), and sometimes musical or electronic sounds (e.g. "The Lincolnshire Poacher", "Magnetic Fields")




And the zero-zero-zero thing seems to be a way of signing-off:

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Some stations, especially those thought to originate from the former Soviet Union, end with a series of zeros




Must have been cool to discover this kind of thing on the radio with no way of explaining it...


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
    #22097623 - 08/16/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Online this cyber web somewhere is a page titled something along the lines of most psychedelic jazz albums of all time.  Dig it.  Some of the most incredible far out toons ever hEARed. Remember listening to an early sixties album that completely had me mind on a limb. Dig it.

Another page is titled something like most drug influenced albums of all time.  Some albums on there are bizarre to the bizarro.iste.


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    #22098817 - 08/16/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Online this cyber web somewhere is a page titled something along the lines of most psychedelic jazz albums of all time.  Dig it.  Some of the most incredible far out toons ever hEARed. Remember listening to an early sixties album that completely had me mind on a limb. Dig it.

Another page is titled something like most drug influenced albums of all time.  Some albums on there are bizarre to the bizarro.iste.




....on it......:awethumb:


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22098822 - 08/16/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Seriously cool and trippy!!:bigyesnod:


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    #22099174 - 08/16/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Miles is my musical christ. Bitches Brew is the center piece of my music collection. Many of the best music I have is somehow related to Bitches Brew, either because the musicians played on it, or play with musicians that played on it, etc. Or because modern musicians are still playing and composing in that particular musical style and culture.

Another Miles album that I really like to go deep on is We Want Miles (1980?), with Mike Stern, Marcus Miller, Bill Evans, etc. The solos by Miles and Mike are so goddamn deep, they give me chills. Listen to it if you haven't already. Track 1, Jean-Pierre, is a great teaser, but the deep stuff starts quickly after that.

Modern stuff that honors this old style can be great too. For instance, when I listen to Nils Petr Molvaer I can clearly hear him talking about Bitches Brew (but his is in the more digital Norwegian-electro jazz style). Same with other modern trumpet players, like Cuong Vu. Check them out if you dont know them already. This is true trip jazz to me. And very hard to handle... I love that.

Finally, the gem of my music collection. Not Miles, but closely related. Did you know that for some reason Herbie Hancock missed out playing on Bitches Brew. He then started his own band in that style. These are his so called Mwandishi years (1970-75?). The best album is called Sextant. If I ever want to completely freak out a new friend, that one is what I play for him. Dont mis out on this one: Herbie Hancock, Sextant.

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    #22101953 - 08/17/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Miles is my musical christ. Bitches Brew is the center piece of my music collection. Many of the best music I have is somehow related to Bitches Brew, either because the musicians played on it, or play with musicians that played on it, etc. Or because modern musicians are still playing and composing in that particular musical style and culture.

Another Miles album that I really like to go deep on is We Want Miles (1980?), with Mike Stern, Marcus Miller, Bill Evans, etc. The solos by Miles and Mike are so goddamn deep, they give me chills. Listen to it if you haven't already. Track 1, Jean-Pierre, is a great teaser, but the deep stuff starts quickly after that.

Modern stuff that honors this old style can be great too. For instance, when I listen to Nils Petr Molvaer I can clearly hear him talking about Bitches Brew (but his is in the more digital Norwegian-electro jazz style). Same with other modern trumpet players, like Cuong Vu. Check them out if you dont know them already. This is true trip jazz to me. And very hard to handle... I love that.

Finally, the gem of my music collection. Not Miles, but closely related. Did you know that for some reason Herbie Hancock missed out playing on Bitches Brew. He then started his own band in that style. These are his so called Mwandishi years (1970-75?). The best album is called Sextant. If I ever want to completely freak out a new friend, that one is what I play for him. Dont mis out on this one: Herbie Hancock, Sextant.

Love, Hanz.




..... thank you so much brother :-)! I've always been a guitar rock tripper but after touching on some miles the last couple of trips I'm on a whole jazz kick right now! It's so f****** amazing! A genre that I have always respected but never truly explored. Now I am diving in deep. I just can't even explain how deep miles took me on my short but weird journey. Oh wait! You DO know what I'm talking about lol :-)!

.. please check out my link of the Lindberg Hemmer foundation earlier in this post. I absolutely love that music and it is super soothing and luscious. They call it Scandinavian supermarket music! :-) I haven't been able to find anything quite like it! If you can point me to something close to that it would be amazing!

.. and I will definitely definitely try some of that Herbie Hancock I really respect him and would love to learn more of his music! :-) that dark Magus album seems like a pretty intense ride as well!.....thanks for the Love!:wonka::awethumb:


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    #22102193 - 08/17/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

John Coltrane's piece titled "Pursuance" is a good example of decent jazz.


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    #22102560 - 08/17/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're welcome voodoochild.

Hey, but the link to the Lindberg Hemmer clip doesn't work for me. It says "this video is not available".

I'm now listening to this one, same ?



sweet :smile: but mostly harmless... I like higher octane. Although when tripping hard the sweet stuff can be very pleasant I must say.


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    #22103598 - 08/17/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've been gaining a greater appreciation of jazz recently as well, in part due to the use of psychedelics. This has always been one of my favorite jazz albums:



And as far as challenging music goes, it's hard to top this:



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    #22103661 - 08/17/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Haha, that Art Tatum track is hilarious! I like my jazz with a lot of notes :cool:

What I'm looking for now are modern musicians that combine their electronic sounds with this kind of finesse and superior technique.

I have some of it somewhere, let me look it up...


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    #22108385 - 08/18/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You're welcome voodoochild.

Hey, but the link to the Lindberg Hemmer clip doesn't work for me. It says "this video is not available".

I'm now listening to this one, same ?



sweet :smile: but mostly harmless... I like higher octane. Although when tripping hard the sweet stuff can be very pleasant I must say.





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..... check out the studio stuff more so. It is very sweet and sumptuous but it is also extremely deep and layered with those electronic drum and bass type things that I think you're looking for. Check out the full albums Scandinavian supermarket music and Brazilian architecture! It definitely has psychedelic undertones for real!

.... I have listened to these albums on my come up the last two trips and has been absolutely perfect and everyone else agrees. Just what you need to smoothly take you through the bumpy times :-)!:bigyesnod:


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    #22108394 - 08/18/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've been gaining a greater appreciation of jazz recently as well, in part due to the use of psychedelics. This has always been one of my favorite jazz albums:



And as far as challenging music goes, it's hard to top this:







.....great stuff^^^^^:bigyesnod:


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    #22109300 - 08/19/15 12:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Lol this thread makes me wanna listen to some Miles Davis on my next trip


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    #22109746 - 08/19/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Guys, check this out:

http://www.freeform.org/music/kozmigroov.html

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Kozmigroov is a transgressive improvisational music which combines elements of psychedelia, spirituality, jazz, rock, soul, funk, and African, Latin, Brazillian, Indian and Asian influences culminating into an all encompassing cosmic groove.





It's basically a long list of album titles, no downloads. But very good for inspiration on the kind of music we are talking about here..  Miles and Herbie Hancock and a lot of others. That good psychedelic jazz sound from the 70s and beyond.


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    #22110108 - 08/19/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I love how their "A-list" includes most of miles albums already


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    #22110304 - 08/19/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Guys, check this out:

http://www.freeform.org/music/kozmigroov.html

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The Kozmigroov Konnection.

Kozmigroov is a transgressive improvisational music which combines elements of psychedelia, spirituality, jazz, rock, soul, funk, and African, Latin, Brazillian, Indian and Asian influences culminating into an all encompassing cosmic groove.





It's basically a long list of album titles, no downloads. But very good for inspiration on the kind of music we are talking about here..  Miles and Herbie Hancock and a lot of others. That good psychedelic jazz sound from the 70s and beyond.




....great list!....needed that..... me and my bro have already committed to all jazz on our next trip. Definitely going to do bitches brew or dark Magus! Really want to try some of that Herbie for sure!

...... thanks for all the love :-)! One of the most uplifting and positive threads that I have posted so far! Now get out there and trip super deep down that rabbit hole! Lol:bigyesnod::mindexpanding::wizardfail:


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    #22110427 - 08/19/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Have you listened to Bitches Brew before? That would be quite the first experience if not. Give it a spin.


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    #22110464 - 08/19/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Have you listened to Bitches Brew before? That would be quite the first experience if not. Give it a spin.





..... I have never listened to b****** Brew while tripping. It sounds like it's definitely near the top of the mountain though :-)! It's definitely on and I'll report back on this thread about the experience :-)!


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    #22110724 - 08/19/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Live/Evil, On The Corner, A Tribute to Jack Johnson, and Bitches Brew are life changing albums!!!!


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    #22113206 - 08/19/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Live/Evil, On The Corner, A Tribute to Jack Johnson, and Bitches Brew are life changing albums!!!!




Yes, those are the ones. Though Bitches Brew is really lonely at the top IMO.

Here's another one that is really in the BB style, when I space out and want it to go on after BB is over I play this one:

Miroslav Vitous "Infinite Search" (1970)

Big overlap in the sound and crew, I think, but without Miles. They make up for it pretty good though.

There's a couple of other ones too, got to jog my memory for that ... I'll be back.

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    #22113401 - 08/19/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yesterday I was listening to John Coltrane while smoking cannabis and watching the sun fall till it was night. Wasn't tripping, but it was a pleasant experience! :noargument:


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    #22113419 - 08/19/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Which Coltrane album were you listening to?


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    #22113446 - 08/19/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A Love Supreme and Stellar Reigns.


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A Love Supreme and Stellar Reigns.




Now putting on Stellar...


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    #22113954 - 08/19/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Listened to "in a silent way" today.....quite nice:awethumb:


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    #22116546 - 08/20/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Listened to "in a silent way" today.....quite nice:awethumb:





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    #22120260 - 08/21/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ha~  I was reading this whole thread waiting for it, so I could be the one to suggest In a Silent Way...so instead I'll suggest

The Complete In a Silent Way Sessions

Because of mostly the track Splashdown.  Almost everything on the album is awesome though.

Been getting into Shakti a bit.  It's some of John McLaughlin's more technical acoustic Indian stuff.  Friday Night in San Francisco by the Guitar Trio (John McLaughlin, Al di Meola, and Paco DeLucia) is an awesome acoustic album with some fierce playing.

Tony Williams Lifetime - Believe It (1975)

Jean-Luc Ponty - Enigmatic Ocean (1977)

Stanley Clarke - Journey to Love

Return to Forever - Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy, No Mystery

I like fusion.  That's why I first got into Bitches Brew, because I was so enamored of the Mahavishnu Orchestra.  Also a far out Miles album, Get Up With It (1974) features intense drony sadness, funky shroomy vibe tune called Maiysha, one from the Jack Johnson sessions with Johnny Mac, and some horrible wretched shit called Rated X.  Also, a second disc with some OK jamming on it.  Mostly, everyone was on way too many drugs for it all to work out alright by this point in Miles' career.

Also, a great Jazz/Rock album  Caravanserai by Santana (1972).  Simply amazing trip music.


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    #22120264 - 08/21/15 02:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

also, don't know if it counts, but Hot Rats by Frank Zappa, it kinda is jazzish.


The Soft Machine put out an amazing album in 1970.  Their Third album, called Third.  It has 4 tracks on it, 3 of which are fantastic technical and trippy jazz compositions, one of which is an extended meandering prog-rock tune.  The second album is also amazing.  And the first has its moments too (such as the drummer randomly muttering the lyric "I've got lights in my brain....we'll have fights in the rain" always cracks me up). 

A good album by prog-rock group Gong as far as jazz influence being maxxed out is Angel's Egg (1973).  Other Side of the Sky, Castle in the Clouds, Love is how you make it, Eat that Phone Book...very jazzy stuff for being super trippy prog.

I feel like I should be contributing way more info about jazz on this thread but I don't know what else to throw out there at this moment.  Just not focusing on it enough really.


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    #22120965 - 08/21/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Listening to Tribute to Jack Johnson earlier today, after a few huge hits from my vape, was a great experience
Intense in a good way

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    #22128544 - 08/22/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:awethumb:

....So happy where this thread has gone ....good stuff!:bigyesnod:


... thanks so much to everyone for all the great suggestions and am looking forward to a whole new and deep chapter in my ongoing music appreciation!


.....next week...9 grams and bitches brew.....:mindexpanding::vibin:


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    #22129048 - 08/22/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Doggie you need check out zaba from glass animals! my favorite tripping album hands down


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    #22135615 - 08/24/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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.....next week...9 grams and bitches brew.....:mindexpanding::vibin:




Geez voodoochild, I'd hate to sound grown up and all that, but more is not always better. If anything you need less with music that trippy. I had to stop BB and all other music once, because the tea turned out a little stronger than expected. Take care man. I want to hear only good news afterwards!

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    #22135620 - 08/24/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Doggie you need check out zaba from glass animals! my favorite tripping album hands down




Good tip, listening to it now. For me this is weed music. On trips I like instrumental.


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.....next week...9 grams and bitches brew.....:mindexpanding::vibin:




Geez voodoochild, I'd hate to sound grown up and all that, but more is not always better. If anything you need less with music that trippy. I had to stop BB and all other music once, because the tea turned out a little stronger than expected. Take care man. I want to hear only good news afterwards!

Love, Hanz.




.....thanks Hanz!...I appreciate the concern....I have been at 7-8 for half dozen trips.... I will never say I'm ready but I have been preparing! I also have a quarter of some thi mushrooms that a friend gave me a month or two ago. Considering trying those mushrooms and seeing if they're more potent than the ones I've been munching on! If I do the new shrooms I'll just eat the seven grams in case they're super potent! :-) I take my psychedelic experiences seriously and I am interested in high dose mushrooms up to the half ounce range. Starting to work my way up to that amount currently. I have had some amazing experiences but part of me always ponder the question of .....more?

The inexplicable nature of the psychedelic experience enthralls me and always makes me want to go further!.....how far....idk?......

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....luv this though!


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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22144586 - 08/26/15 05:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ok voodoochild. At least you know what you're doing. Some people out there think that because they liked 3 grams they can therefore just jump to 9 grams and everything will be great. Of course if you're unprepared this is utterly terrifying. Anyway, good luck, and let us know how it was.

And that Lonnie Liston Smith is fantastic. That is the right stuff to listen to when the walls are alive!


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    #22145627 - 08/26/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok voodoochild. At least you know what you're doing. Some people out there think that because they liked 3 grams they can therefore just jump to 9 grams and everything will be great. Of course if you're unprepared this is utterly terrifying. Anyway, good luck, and let us know how it was.

And that Lonnie Liston Smith is fantastic. That is the right stuff to listen to when the walls are alive!




...maybe tonight...not sure yet.....might wait for full
Moon.....trying to embrace the nyctomorph.....will be shure to report!........really love the good vibes!...thanks bro!:awethumb:


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    #22145682 - 08/26/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)




......allways loved this stuff....:bigyesnod:


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    #22231045 - 09/13/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Tripped Bitches Brew and Agartha...:wonka:

....my god that music is amazing!....it's like the soundscape is a living breathing entity. .....3d in my mind....intense!

....But this.....

       





.........wow.....


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    #22231051 - 09/13/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Also. ...listened to a bunch of Herbie and Lonnie Liston Smith....:awethumb:


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