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Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged
#22086488 - 08/13/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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..... oh my f****** god that was awesome heavy listening! I have never tripped on music that pushed me and challenge to me like that. Part of me wants to explore more but seriously that music hung over me for like an hour after we turned it off and threw on some Grateful Dead.
.... that free form acid jazz is on another plane! :-)
... I kept tripping on thinking about when I would see dudes at shows with Miles t-shirts on. .....now I get it.....
I don't know if Miles Davis is f****** with me but I avoided a couple of the crazier ones like dark Magus! I tried an album called big fun! I don't know if miles is f****** with me but that album was not big fun. More like a big mountain being dropped on my face him pushing me to the center of existence. I didn't know if I was f****** coming or going. Some serious f****** heavy listening.
..... please share your Miles Davis experiences! :-)
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22087358 - 08/13/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Check out "Kind of Blue". What a fucking album! I'd agree that Miles has that sound that can't really be mimicked. Brought back alot of memories with this thread.
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#22087519 - 08/13/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only Miles i could find was a beautifully ripped SACD of Bitches Brew After vaping a shitload of undried buds i didnt want to post at first, but thanks to your thread i put on Miles running the Voodoo down
Now thanks to Miles i got motivated to post
holy shit im high af and this sound is just perfect edit; i look at the player, the next song is just about done already and i didnt even notice it
Edited by thoraxx (08/13/15 02:37 PM)
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: thoraxx]
#22087600 - 08/13/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The titles which I remember I liked are Bitches Brew and Lost In Spain. Yes this form of jazz is massive.
Try John Coltrane too. There are many more decent jazz artists (most from the past) out there but I used to only listen to jazz part-time. I do feel it is the music genre which actually flows in my veins naturally, in various forms.
Last time I tripped on cacti tar I listened to Masada's album "Vav" in a proper stereo speaker setup, quite loud. It was a great experience. I could hear all these detailed sounds. I feel I should listen to more jazz next time I score some cacti. It is such an intellectual music, goes very well with cacti in my opinion.
If you follow John Zorn's trail of musical destruction, you cannot go wrong.
I remember it must have been around ten years ago, I must have been still underage. Me, my bros and mates were playing cards completely stoned. It was in the days when smoking bud would make us TRIP. We were listening to John Zorn and when "Cat-O-Nine-Tails" started, everything changed. We were imagining various scenes which this music seems to be a soundtrack to... Brilliant. We stopped playing and went quiet. At the end of the track everyone came back to reality asking each other "what just happened for the past ten minutes?" I also recall smoking for the first time after a few months break on that day, which made it hit me quality.
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22087609 - 08/13/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh and "Spanish key"
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22092171 - 08/14/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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During a strong trip, there's something about jazz that can push me over the edge, it just seems incomprehensible, like it's deliberately fucking with my head by refusing to stick to a simple rhythm.
I remember a trip that started to go south partly because the music was set to shuffle and began playing "Jumpin at the Woodside" by Count Basie....it's a fairly jolly track but it sounded so alien that it made me realize how strong the trip was getting....especially when my bedclothes started to form the curtains of a stage in some kind of nightclub backdrop to the jazz.
Then I got some freaky Boards of Canada track where a woman is repeating a string of numbers....followed by pounding acid techno with distorted echoing vocal samples about 'False Identity Papers' and fleeing to Argentina ....a confusing and nasty combination of music tracks 
Miles Davis could be interesting on the kind of dose where you are capable of paying close attention to music, but otherwise......heavy listening indeed.
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
#22092196 - 08/14/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's the beauty of it to me. It reflects itself in the motion of letting go into the unknown, always resonated to me.
-------------------- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
#22092592 - 08/14/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aldebaran said: During a strong trip, there's something about jazz that can push me over the edge, it just seems incomprehensible, like it's deliberately fucking with my head by refusing to stick to a simple rhythm.
I remember a trip that started to go south partly because the music was set to shuffle and began playing "Jumpin at the Woodside" by Count Basie....it's a fairly jolly track but it sounded so alien that it made me realize how strong the trip was getting....especially when my bedclothes started to form the curtains of a stage in some kind of nightclub backdrop to the jazz.
Then I got some freaky Boards of Canada track where a woman is repeating a string of numbers....followed by pounding acid techno with distorted echoing vocal samples about 'False Identity Papers' and fleeing to Argentina ....a confusing and nasty combination of music tracks 
Miles Davis could be interesting on the kind of dose where you are capable of paying close attention to music, but otherwise......heavy listening indeed.
Would you be able to find the title of that BOC song for me please?
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22092726 - 08/14/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rock n' roll holds my soul with ragas being the spirit, but ahh.... jazz is the heart and head. Kind of Blue quite literally changed my life. In the future we will speak of Davis, Monk, Gillespie, Ellington, Coltrane, Armstrong, Parker, Basie and a number of others with the same sort of reverence that classical and baroque composers hold today. Evolution of culture is a never ending fascination.
Art is one of the most profound gifts the human species has ever recognised. Just look at Rodin's "Le Penseur" (the thinker) - the embodiment of man contemplating itself. What novelty lay in the divide between the great writers, artists, musicians, mathematicians, physicists to that of the hero's antagonist (Mao Tse-tung, Mussolini et all). I guess you can't know the light without having darkness as its juxtaposition.
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22092877 - 08/14/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Would you be able to find the title of that BOC song for me please?
Reading my post back, I make it sound like there's an undiscovered BOC acid techno track, sorry for any disappointment....the reference to acid techno is to a separate track - Richard H Kirk "With False Identity".
The BOC track with the numbers is "gyroscope" from the album Geogaddi.
There's a good sci-fi horror film called "Banshee Chapter", with a plot involving DMT and also so-called Numbers Stations. This reminded me of the BOC track, and sure enough the wikipedia article states that the samples on this track are from a numbers station:
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Samples from Conet Project recordings, most identifiably that listed as Tcp D1 3 Counting Control Irdial are used by Scottish electronic music outfit Boards of Canada on their 2002 album Geogaddi, most conspicuously on the track "Gyroscope"
Anyway, after listening to some of the tracks on Geogaddi again, I discover that it was actually "The Devil in the Details" that freaked me out during that trip....no numbers but still weird. The vocal is creepy and distorted, and I couldn't tell how much of the distortion was due to the drugs.
Also there's a disconnect between the unsettling voice and the affirming kind of self-help statements she's reading out. I can't "just relax", my "inner receptive centre" is collapsing around me , and just listening to that voice I can feel the reality slipping away around me....
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One jazzy track that I do have in my tripping playlist is "Hypocrite" by Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra:
Coming after 90s European techno on my playlist it does come as a bit of a surprise in the middle of a trip, but the rhythm is fairly danceable and funky so it doesn't jar my ears too much.
Even so, there's often a comment in my trip journals along the lines of "JAZZ. Now? Why? Who chose this fucking music?"
I dare anyone to trip on a huge dose while listening to one of those recordings of numbers stations and nothing else...now that would be freaky. But not very jazzy, admittedly. Unless Miles Davis had his own numbers station. Which is unlikely.
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Soul-Shine]
#22094084 - 08/15/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Soul-Shine said: Rock n' roll holds my soul with ragas being the spirit, but ahh.... jazz is the heart and head. Kind of Blue quite literally changed my life. In the future we will speak of Davis, Monk, Gillespie, Ellington, Coltrane, Armstrong, Parker, Basie and a number of others with the same sort of reverence that classical and baroque composers hold today. Evolution of culture is a never ending fascination.
Art is one of the most profound gifts the human species has ever recognised. Just look at Rodin's "Le Penseur" (the thinker) - the embodiment of man contemplating itself. What novelty lay in the divide between the great writers, artists, musicians, mathematicians, physicists to that of the hero's antagonist (Mao Tse-tung, Mussolini et all). I guess you can't know the light without having darkness as its juxtaposition.
Being born a human... what an extraordinary privilege
...So Beautiful Brother
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
#22094117 - 08/15/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Would you be able to find the title of that BOC song for me please?
Reading my post back, I make it sound like there's an undiscovered BOC acid techno track, sorry for any disappointment....the reference to acid techno is to a separate track - Richard H Kirk "With False Identity".
The BOC track with the numbers is "gyroscope" from the album Geogaddi.
There's a good sci-fi horror film called "Banshee Chapter", with a plot involving DMT and also so-called Numbers Stations. This reminded me of the BOC track, and sure enough the wikipedia article states that the samples on this track are from a numbers station:
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Samples from Conet Project recordings, most identifiably that listed as Tcp D1 3 Counting Control Irdial are used by Scottish electronic music outfit Boards of Canada on their 2002 album Geogaddi, most conspicuously on the track "Gyroscope"
Anyway, after listening to some of the tracks on Geogaddi again, I discover that it was actually "The Devil in the Details" that freaked me out during that trip....no numbers but still weird. The vocal is creepy and distorted, and I couldn't tell how much of the distortion was due to the drugs.
Also there's a disconnect between the unsettling voice and the affirming kind of self-help statements she's reading out. I can't "just relax", my "inner receptive centre" is collapsing around me , and just listening to that voice I can feel the reality slipping away around me....
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One jazzy track that I do have in my tripping playlist is "Hypocrite" by Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra:
Coming after 90s European techno on my playlist it does come as a bit of a surprise in the middle of a trip, but the rhythm is fairly danceable and funky so it doesn't jar my ears too much.
Even so, there's often a comment in my trip journals along the lines of "JAZZ. Now? Why? Who chose this fucking music?"
I dare anyone to trip on a huge dose while listening to one of those recordings of numbers stations and nothing else...now that would be freaky. But not very jazzy, admittedly. Unless Miles Davis had his own numbers station. Which is unlikely.
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NUmber station....!...wild!....I learned something new !.....so fucking wierd!
..... as part of me couldn't handle it and needed to turn it off in lieu of some Grateful Dead and Jimi Hendrix, another part of me wanted to follow that rabbit hole deeper and deeper. When miles would blow that trumpet and ride high over the rhythmlessness.....my god that was dark and deep.....so intellectual..... my main thought was that this was some next level or other worldly type music. I just kept tripping on those dudes I see it shows with the mile shirt and the nerd glasses! I just imagine some dude on 10 hits in an apartment in New York City going deep deep down the rabito with some Miles Davis! I'm not joking that s*** hungover ass for like a half hour to 45 minutes after we changed it over to some rock music!
.... . But another part of us really wants to go back and stick with it and ride the wave all the way through but we just didn't know if you wanted to suck up two hours of our trip like that. S*** is some challenging listening for sure :-)!
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22094138 - 08/15/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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..... I am totally addicted to this music right now I find it to be some of the most chill and sumptuous come up music I have ever found I mean on the come up it's so awesome! Can anyone point me to more music like this I can't find anything quite like it!?
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22095065 - 08/15/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can anyone point me to more music like this I can't find anything quite like it!?
Scandinavian Supermarket Music???
 That track did send me into a kind of trance by the end... staring into space.
The only thing it vaguely reminded me of was Ralph Myerz - chilled out and slightly cheesy
Maybe searching for "lounge music" or "chill out music" would be your best bet
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
#22095123 - 08/15/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm definitely playing some jazz on my next trip, haha.
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Kinshino]
#22096039 - 08/15/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinshino said: I'm definitely playing some jazz on my next trip, haha.
.... me too. We're talking about doing jazz almost entirely on the next one :-)! 
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
#22097358 - 08/16/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aldebaran said:
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Would you be able to find the title of that BOC song for me please?
Reading my post back, I make it sound like there's an undiscovered BOC acid techno track, sorry for any disappointment....the reference to acid techno is to a separate track - Richard H Kirk "With False Identity".
The BOC track with the numbers is "gyroscope" from the album Geogaddi.
There's a good sci-fi horror film called "Banshee Chapter", with a plot involving DMT and also so-called Numbers Stations. This reminded me of the BOC track, and sure enough the wikipedia article states that the samples on this track are from a numbers station:
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Samples from Conet Project recordings, most identifiably that listed as Tcp D1 3 Counting Control Irdial are used by Scottish electronic music outfit Boards of Canada on their 2002 album Geogaddi, most conspicuously on the track "Gyroscope"
Anyway, after listening to some of the tracks on Geogaddi again, I discover that it was actually "The Devil in the Details" that freaked me out during that trip....no numbers but still weird. The vocal is creepy and distorted, and I couldn't tell how much of the distortion was due to the drugs.
Also there's a disconnect between the unsettling voice and the affirming kind of self-help statements she's reading out. I can't "just relax", my "inner receptive centre" is collapsing around me , and just listening to that voice I can feel the reality slipping away around me....
***
One jazzy track that I do have in my tripping playlist is "Hypocrite" by Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra:
Coming after 90s European techno on my playlist it does come as a bit of a surprise in the middle of a trip, but the rhythm is fairly danceable and funky so it doesn't jar my ears too much.
Even so, there's often a comment in my trip journals along the lines of "JAZZ. Now? Why? Who chose this fucking music?"
I dare anyone to trip on a huge dose while listening to one of those recordings of numbers stations and nothing else...now that would be freaky. But not very jazzy, admittedly. Unless Miles Davis had his own numbers station. Which is unlikely.
Yo I knew what you mean, BOC track and some techno track as two separate songs.
About the number stations... Lemme tell you all my story.
I must have been 17 at the time when I shared a room with two dudes monday-friday during school times. We used to do many interesting things there.
Once we started experimenting with radio receiver, finding russian and german radio stations on short waves and whot not. Listening to the white noise and "DJ-ing" the mind splitting frequencies/disortions. One of us had a (what was then considered as much advanced) mobile phone with voice recording function. We recorded all this crazy shit.
At some point suddenly we caught a guy reading out random numbers. He was pronouncing each and every number carefully, and making every effort to sound clearly. He sounded like English was not his native language. I'm not able to tell which country was he from.
We all found this very surprising and eerie. The dude repeated the same sequence of numbers, which was ending with ZERO-ZERO-ZERO. After the sequence ended, the transmission ended. No music, no more speech. Nothing. We waited and waited, but nothing happened.
At the time we didn't know anything about so called "number stations". Never heard of them before.
We have recorded all this with the mobile phone. It was either a pixelated video or a voice record. I believe I still have it somewhere in the depths of my PC hard drive.
Few years later, after when all us 3 moved away in different directions, I received a message on facebook from my fried. He sent me a link to a website which was packed with recordings of "number stations" and there was a bunch of people investigating it since 70's or something. I then realized how lucky we were to experience this. I still have no bloody idea what these number stations truly are. But I guess these are some spies or secret agents sharing encrypted information which only they understand.
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Edited by Dr. Delban (08/16/15 02:33 AM)
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22097602 - 08/16/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I still have no bloody idea what these number stations truly are. But I guess these are some spies or secret agents sharing encrypted information which only they understand.
Just from reading that wikipedia article, it would seem they were definitely used as a convenient way to transmit encoded messages to spies.
The interesting thing is that because the numbers themselves are random, there is no way to decrypt the messages without the key.....so there is no way to be sure what all of these numbers stations are or were. I like the idea that some of these stations had a "signature", like a short piece of music, to identify them, makes them intriguing:
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The prelude, introduction, or call-up of a transmission (from which stations' informal nicknames are often derived) includes some kind of identifier, either for the station itself and/or for the intended recipient. This can take the form of numeric or radio-alphabet "code names" (e.g. "Charlie India Oscar", "250 250 250", "Six-Niner-Zero-Oblique-Five-Four"), characteristic phrases (e.g. "¡Atención!", "Achtung!", "Ready? Ready?", "1234567890"), and sometimes musical or electronic sounds (e.g. "The Lincolnshire Poacher", "Magnetic Fields")
And the zero-zero-zero thing seems to be a way of signing-off:
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Some stations, especially those thought to originate from the former Soviet Union, end with a series of zeros
Must have been cool to discover this kind of thing on the radio with no way of explaining it...
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: Aldebaran]
#22097623 - 08/16/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Online this cyber web somewhere is a page titled something along the lines of most psychedelic jazz albums of all time. Dig it. Some of the most incredible far out toons ever hEARed. Remember listening to an early sixties album that completely had me mind on a limb. Dig it.
Another page is titled something like most drug influenced albums of all time. Some albums on there are bizarre to the bizarro.iste.
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Re: Do u do Miles Davis?.....Never been so challenged [Re: WhoManBeing]
#22098817 - 08/16/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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WhoManBeing said: Online this cyber web somewhere is a page titled something along the lines of most psychedelic jazz albums of all time. Dig it. Some of the most incredible far out toons ever hEARed. Remember listening to an early sixties album that completely had me mind on a limb. Dig it.
Another page is titled something like most drug influenced albums of all time. Some albums on there are bizarre to the bizarro.iste.
....on it......
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