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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #22094939 - 08/15/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What's the difference between using knowledge and eating from the tree of knowledge?  You need to explain yourself if you want people to understand 'wtf you are even going on about.'

None of this vague shit either.  What is the difference here and what are you trying to get across?  Otherwise we're just going to assume you have as little as idea as we do what you're talking about, and you were just trying to sound smart and mystical and now it's backfired.




OK, I'll try to explain this simple idea the best I can.  A lion or any other animal with sharp teeth, claws, and is fast find it instinctively easy to catch other live animals and easily eat them.  They don't have the intelligence/knowledge to grow larger fields of fruits and vegetables and herbs because they're not designed to easily do so.  Humans are the other way around, flat teeth, no claws, like many other herbivores in nature, and can easily eat fruits and vegetables and plants.  Other herbivores don't have the intelligence/knowledge to catch and eat live animals on a daily basis.  Humans have a certain knowledge which allows us to build and construct intricate things.  We can also use this knowledge to eat animals which our bodies don't seem to be designed to easily do.  Everything about our body says we're herbivores. 

The message was don't EAT from the tree of knowledge.  The message was not to sit around and not use knowledge to build things.

Is this making some sense?....


Edited by wakeINpeople (08/15/15 02:09 PM)


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22094944 - 08/15/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There message was don't EAT from the tree of knowledge.  The message was not to sit around and not use knowledge to build things.

Is this making some sense....





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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22094945 - 08/15/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It doesnt clog your blood vessels when youneat meat. Every time I hear that, it is so annoying




It clogs the arteries of your heart, plaque buildup comes from animal fat, not plants.  Animal fat causes heart attacks.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: wakeINpeople] * 1
    #22094947 - 08/15/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Source?


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: lowbrow]
    #22094967 - 08/15/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Most gmo veggies are grown for live stock, such as round-up-ready corn. For now GMO doods seems like a political issue. The monanto suicide seed crap, dor example.You cant breed corn out more then a genoration because you get incomsistat yields of corn

No, that is not how -laque builds up. The model you are proposing is a completely debunked model based on Ansel Keys and his hypothesis he did everything to lie and support. It is the basis of the countries fat phobea, when carbs are far more damaging.
You get inflamation in an arterial wall, which causes a cascade of derramental immune responses, including clogged arteries and 'foam cells'. It is much more complicated then eating saturated fat, raising cholesterol, blocking arteries.
Vegetable oil is oftan mostly  omega 6 fats, which can cause celluler stiffening becaise it makes poor cell membrains


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: Love_spirit]
    #22095007 - 08/15/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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2 percent of American adults are current vegetarians or vegans




Although I escort spiders outside when I find them in the house I don't

mind the idea of animals being slaughtered. It is the horrible conditions they

are put through at these factories that I will not be a part of.

How do you rationalize your active participation this?





Do volunteer work at animal shelters,
adopt animals that are otherwise scheduled to be euthanized,
then feed those animals the flesh of other animals killed at factory farms, because feeding dogs and cats pure vegetarian or vegan diets is not what they evolved to eat. :lol:

Also grew up hunting, fishing, and growing food for a number of my own meals.
Have learned to appreciate where my food comes from, but also acknowledge that factory farming is a mechanized process trying to focus on efficiency over humane treatment.

Did try a vegan diet on several occasions, but never stuck to it as it always felt to be more about exercising a pompous moral superiority complex rather than making meaningful efforts at actual change. :shrug:

It is better to buy local from producers willing to let customers see their setups than to have food shipped from across the world anyway, if someone does not have the space and means to produce the majority of his or her own food to begin with.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22095011 - 08/15/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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wakeINpeople said:
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specialpeopleclub said:
It doesnt clog your blood vessels when youneat meat. Every time I hear that, it is so annoying




It clogs the arteries of your heart, plaque buildup comes from animal fat, not plants.  Animal fat causes heart attacks.




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Source?





saturated fats are the ones considered healthy iirc. they are found in animals as well as plants.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22095012 - 08/15/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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specialpeopleclub said:
Most gmo veggies are grown for live stock, such as round-up-ready corn. For now GMO doods seems like a political issue. The monanto suicide seed crap, dor example.You cant breed corn out more then a genoration because you get incomsistat yields of corn

No, that is not how -laque builds up. The model you are proposing is a completely debunked model based on Ansel Keys and his hypothesis he did everything to lie and support. It is the basis of the countries fat phobea, when carbs are far more damaging.
You get inflamation in an arterial wall, which causes a cascade of derramental immune responses, including clogged arteries and 'foam cells'. It is much more complicated then eating saturated fat, raising cholesterol, blocking arteries.
Vegetable oil is oftan mostly  omega 6 fats, which can cause celluler stiffening becaise it makes poor cell membrains




Vegetable oils are not really the best option for humans either, but they wash away in cooler temperatures than animal fat does.  Dude it's been known for a long time by the medical industry that the plaque buildup which causes heart attacks is cholesterol buildup from animal fats, it's nonsensical for you to argue it. 

Carbs are not more damaging, this is the BS myth which turns people away from eating healthy.  Fruits and vegetables are full of carbs and no fat.  Your saying fruits and veggies are dangerous....

I'm going to be constantly attacked for what I'm saying here because people still want to kill the messenger when they don't want to hear the message.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: wakeINpeople] * 3
    #22095014 - 08/15/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So you are using a vague bible quote, which was written millennia after humans started eating meat to survive, to justify your argument against eating meat.

Prehistoric humans didn't make a morally influenced choice to hunt for meat. It just happened like any other predator.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: wakeINpeople] * 2
    #22095020 - 08/15/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i'm inclined to think you are talking out of your asshole unless you post a reputable source backing up your claims.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: Love_spirit]
    #22095021 - 08/15/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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2 percent of American adults are current vegetarians or vegans




How do you rationalize your active participation this?





I like eating things.

Around the time people started discovering the Americas there was a culinary research setup dedicated solely to finding new species and eating them.
That's me.

Basically i'd eat anything. ANYTHING :kingtard:


Edited by Beanhead (08/15/15 02:25 PM)


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: Tantrika]
    #22095028 - 08/15/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Love_spirit said:
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2 percent of American adults are current vegetarians or vegans




Although I escort spiders outside when I find them in the house I don't

mind the idea of animals being slaughtered. It is the horrible conditions they

are put through at these factories that I will not be a part of.

How do you rationalize your active participation this?





Did try a vegan diet on several occasions, but never stuck to it as it always felt to be more about exercising a pompous moral superiority complex rather than making meaningful efforts at actual change.




You tried a vegan diet a few times, but felt it was giving you a pompous moral superiority dilemma?

Just from your harsh choice of words I can tell you are bullshitting and never tried veganism. 

Your just a habitual liar.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: wakeINpeople] * 2
    #22095041 - 08/15/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Everything about our body says we're herbivores. 









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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: Love_spirit]
    #22095043 - 08/15/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Go vegan OP. 

Peace.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: wakeINpeople] * 1
    #22095046 - 08/15/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Where are you going man??


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22095064 - 08/15/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Where are you going man??




Running away from the torches and pitchforks....lol.

Adios, and have a nice day.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: wakeINpeople] * 1
    #22095068 - 08/15/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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wakeINpeople said:
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SweetLeafSamadhi said:
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Love_spirit said:
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2 percent of American adults are current vegetarians or vegans




Although I escort spiders outside when I find them in the house I don't

mind the idea of animals being slaughtered. It is the horrible conditions they

are put through at these factories that I will not be a part of.

How do you rationalize your active participation this?





Did try a vegan diet on several occasions, but never stuck to it as it always felt to be more about exercising a pompous moral superiority complex rather than making meaningful efforts at actual change.




You tried a vegan diet a few times, but felt it was giving you a pompous moral superiority dilemma?

Just from your harsh choice of words I can tell you are bullshitting and never tried veganism. 

Your just a habitual liar.




When I go to the animal shelter and I help to feed and take care of pets that came from homes where they were beaten or malnourished, I can see the positive results of my actions.

On each occasion that I ate a pure vegan diet, I had to tell people about all the good a vegan diet does and how wrong they were to be eating meat to have even the vaguest appearance of positive impact.

You can call me a liar because you do not like my experiences, your doing so does not make my experiences any less real.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22095075 - 08/15/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

so relevant to this conversation. i recently sat down with a fellow shroomerite, ras, at a local vegan restaurant by me. we both had the same thing, but all the food was vegan, no meat. easily one of the best meals i've had. you don't HAVE to eat meat. it's not necessary to get all your vitamins proteins and minerals. but i gotta say there aren't a lot of restaurants that go full vegan like these guys. the meal was so good... i could cut meat out of my diet completely and not look back, and i think a lot of people would be surprised that they probably can too.


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: wakeINpeople] * 2
    #22095076 - 08/15/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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wakeINpeople said:
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Where are you going man??




Running away from the torches and pitchforks....lol.

Adios, and have a nice day.



What did you expect though. You came in here talking outta your ass and couldn't back up anything you said :shrug:

Lesson learned


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Re: peace and love? 98 percent chance you are an animal abuser. [Re: 404]
    #22095078 - 08/15/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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404 said:
so relevant to this conversation. i recently sat down with a fellow shroomerite, ras, at a local vegan restaurant by me. we both had the same thing, but all the food was vegan, no meat. easily one of the best meals i've had. you don't HAVE to eat meat. it's not necessary to get all your vitamins proteins and minerals. but i gotta say there aren't a lot of restaurants that go full vegan like these guys. the meal was so good... i could cut meat out of my diet completely and not look back, and i think a lot of people would be surprised that they probably can too.



Naah fuck that I love steaks and Bacon way too much.


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