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Mexican Invasion? 2
#22085627 - 08/13/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Invading and annexing Mexico may just be the best answer to solve the problems facing both Mexico and the U.S.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: ballsalsa]
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What would we do with the people already in Mexico?
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Stealth1Vampire said: What would we do with the people already in Mexico?
adopt them and raise them as our own.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: ballsalsa]
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: WAN]
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how am i trolling?
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Stealth1Vampire said: What would we do with the people already in Mexico?
adopt them and raise them as our own.
We don't want to do that. Thats the opposite of what we want. We wouldn't be able to afford that. It would be a huge drain on the economy.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said: how am i trolling?
i think he is serious, i saw this in the political forum i think.
it would be great if we annexed mexico, would maybe fix all the destabilization we have caused down there and besides, mexico has some amazing places to visit. hell half of the southwest was mexico, thats why most of the street names are spanish in origin.
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Why would we want to adopt a failed state? We already have Puerto Rico
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: ballsalsa]
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A huge chunk of US territory used to be part of Mexico so it's not like we've never had this idea 
At the moment I think the US is getting more out of Mexico by squeezing its economy dry like some kind of human juicer. A war between US and Mexico would be very one-sided, I think that the US is just waiting until it can declare Mexico a part of US territory without committing any of its military at all.
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How is the US squeezing Mexico dry? That's nonsense. Mexico is fucked up because it is run by criminals and populated by morons.
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mexicans are killing each other over a USA law. Marijuana being illegal, a white man law that mexico adopted and has destroyed itself over. and for what? Nothing. Mexico has gained nothing from destroying itself over the white man law of making weed illegal. All of mexicos trouble right now is from weed being illegal. all of the gangs were created from weed being illegal. when will mexico learn? mexico seems to think its not allowed to make weed legal if the usa does not. and thats flawed thinking.
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So has NAFTA.
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"We already have Puerto Rico"
And what a huge mistake that was, when will people learn, bringing third world people into a developed economy is a disaster.
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#22086606 - 08/13/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We already did that, it's called Texas, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, even part of Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas and Wyoming.
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NAFTA has helped them and hurt American workers. They have the same drug policy we do and drug prohibition is why they make billions off of our junkies. No, their fucking up is their own doing. They are one of the most corrupt nations on the planet. Their leaders are crooks and their people are morons and cowards.
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NAFTA has benefited Mexico and US companies while fucking over the US worker, you should love it.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: We already did that, it's called Texas, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, even part of Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas and Wyoming.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: qman]
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Economic displacement is a benefit? OK
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Shroomism said: We already did that, it's called Texas, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, even part of Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas and Wyoming.
And we cleared the Mexicans living there out
Not in California. Or Texas. Or Arizona. Or New Mexico. Not sure about the others. Or they just moved back.
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How is having a decent paying job that otherwise wouldn't have been there a "economic displacement"?
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By "there" do you mean, "in America instead of Mexico"?
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Jobs went from the US to Mexico, that's a benefit for Mexican workers and Mexico as it fucks over US workers, that's bad.
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I think it fucks over workers from both countries.
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Mexico would be the best state
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Shroomism said: We already did that, it's called Texas, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, even part of Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas and Wyoming.
And we cleared the Mexicans living there out
have you never heard of texas arizona or new mexico before? there are mexicans there man
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People actually still think illegal immagration hurts America?
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: WAN]
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Maybe we shouldn't have built our retarded multicultural philosophy on immigrants. Yeah, we already took this, now let us bring some more European shit here! Could be worse. We could be Muslem. The thing I hate about imagrants is that, when you cheer for them, sometimes you cheer against the people that live where they are going. Think middle easterners coming to Europe
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We have the lowest workforce participation rate since the seventies and more people on food stamps than ever before and you don't think that these 10 million + parasitic cheaters aren't causing that?
Do you know that Mexico has far stronger immigration laws and are far less tolerant than we are? They throw them right the fuck out when they catch them.
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If they take a job that could have gone to an American, then yes, they ARE stealing jobs.
Jobs are finite. More jobs going to Mexicans means fewer jobs for Americans.
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What if they are legally American? What then? Then the whole "mexicans are stealing our JERRBS" rant is just racism. If they work harder and are better suited for the job, then how is that stealing? I watch those guys work. They work hard at what they do. Not many white folks can keep up with them or perform at the same rate and in the brutal heat etc. You do realize the vast majority of people living in the US, immigrated here.. or their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents did. It's not like white people originated in the US.
I said they weren't stealing MY jobs. Mainly because I don't work in landscaping/hardscaping, carpeting, painting, whatever. I'm in IT. Job security wot wot
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SARAtonin said: People actually still think illegal immagration hurts America?

Yeah, because anyone with a half a brain that understands basic economic knows that it hurts the large majority of US citizens. Also, it's ILLEGAL!!
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My Italian grandparents immigrated here 'illegally' in the 50s or whatever. Damn them!!!!1111
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No, it gives Mexican workers a decent paying job they otherwise wouldn't have in the first place, that's a benefit.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: WAN]
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An American who would be paid cents on the hour to work in a hot field? C'mon. The problem with immigration is abstract, with the fact that it creates a multi-tiered semi-racialized system for coercive assignment of labor. Just America doing what America does.
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Shroomism said: What if they are legally American? What then? Then the whole "mexicans are stealing our JERRBS" rant is just racism.
If the Mexican in question is indeed an American (as in, they came here legally) then it's a different matter. But most Mexicans are here illegally though.
If it makes you happier, I will change my terminology from "Mexcian" to "illegal immigrants".
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If they work harder and are better suited for the job, then how is that stealing?
Do you have any proof that these illegal immigrants "worker harder"? And that they are "better suited for the job"? The way I see, they simply undercut the locals by demanding lower pay. And yes, this IS job-stealing because like I stated earlier, jobs are finite. Any job going to an illegal immigrant is a job that could have gone to an American but didn't. Wealth and jobs are being "drained" out of this country (USA).
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I said they weren't stealing MY jobs. Mainly because I don't work in landscaping/hardscaping, carpeting, painting, whatever. I'm in IT. Job security wot wot
So you only care about yourself and your own job security. The hell with the rest of your countrymen who are in the landscaping/carpeting/painting fields. I hear ya.
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How about giving Mexico the confederate south?
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Shroomism said: What if they are legally American? What then? Then the whole "mexicans are stealing our JERRBS" rant is just racism. If they work harder and are better suited for the job, then how is that stealing? I watch those guys work. They work hard at what they do. Not many white folks can keep up with them or perform at the same rate and in the brutal heat etc. You do realize the vast majority of people living in the US, immigrated here.. or their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents did. It's not like white people originated in the US.
I said they weren't stealing MY jobs. Mainly because I don't work in landscaping/hardscaping, carpeting, painting, whatever. I'm in IT. Job security wot wot
They under cut wages, that fucks over US workers.
We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more? The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to keep everyone's wages from moving higher.
When my great grandparents came LEGALLY into the US 100 years ago, they had sponsors and jobs waiting for them, big difference.
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Shroomism said: Mexicans work fucking hard. They aren't stealing my jobs.
Some illegals work hard. So do I. They are depressing wages in the restaurant and construction and service industries. If you want to get paid you should have to work hard. None of the illegals I've ever seen work any harder than I do. I don't know what you do for a living but I suspect it doesn't involve a callous.
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qman said: They under cut wages, that fucks over US workers.
We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more? The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to cheap everyone's wages from moving higher.
Yes. That! Exactly. I disagree with you on a lot but when you're right, you're right.
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Shroomism said: What if they are legally American? What then? Then the whole "mexicans are stealing our JERRBS" rant is just racism. If they work harder and are better suited for the job, then how is that stealing? I watch those guys work. They work hard at what they do. Not many white folks can keep up with them or perform at the same rate and in the brutal heat etc. You do realize the vast majority of people living in the US, immigrated here.. or their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents did. It's not like white people originated in the US.
I said they weren't stealing MY jobs. Mainly because I don't work in landscaping/hardscaping, carpeting, painting, whatever. I'm in IT. Job security wot wot
So basically your attitude is I don't have to compete and have my wage depressed by illegal invaders so I don't a fuck. We have enough unemployed indigenous morons for those jobs. Kick the fuckers out.
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I wouldn't even care if the government subsidized the wages of the US citizen doing the field work, as long as it was a US citizen doing the work, not some illegal.
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qman said: They under cut wages, that fucks over US workers.
We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more? The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to cheap everyone's wages from moving higher.
Yes. That! Exactly. I disagree with you on a lot but when you're right, you're right.
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I thought this was going to be like the British invasion. I wanted to hear Mexican bands.
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We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more? The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to cheap everyone's wages from moving higher.
Yes. That! Exactly. I disagree with you on a lot but when you're right, you're right.
These illegal loving liberals don't understand the real motivation behind the open border policy, it's NOT to help out Julio and his people, it's too fuck over US citizens so the very rich can get even richer.
The pro-immigration liberal is serving the very rich and they don't even know it.
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Britain is being invaded right now.
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Well, this brings us back to the question of the U.S. annexing the remainder of Mexico. That would eliminate a ton of "illegals".
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I'm in IT like I said. But I used to work construction and hardscaping and I worked with a lot of mexicans.. mainly because those guys can tolerate doing brutal labor out in the heat, not many white folks want those jobs.. and if they do.. they usually don't last long. I don't think it's really racist to say that mexicans are hard workers and can tolerate working in the heat better than most. That's just been true from my own experience. They are from a hot climate. But if someone is worried about illegal immigrants stealing their job.. then maybe they need to get better or something.. you might have bigger problems to worry about if an illegal can swoop in and steal your job.
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qman said: They under cut wages, that fucks over US workers.
We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more? The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to cheap everyone's wages from moving higher.
Yes. That! Exactly. I disagree with you on a lot but when you're right, you're right.
These illegal loving liberals don't understand the real motivation behind the open border policy, it's NOT to help out Julio and his people, it's too fuck over US citizens so the very rich can get even richer.
The pro-immigration liberal is serving the very rich and they don't even know it. 
It kinda fucks over Julio too. It fucks over everybody who isn't a player on that level.
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I said they weren't stealing MY jobs. Mainly because I don't work in landscaping/hardscaping, carpeting, painting, whatever. I'm in IT. Job security wot wot
the "Mexicans" i know are actually from every central american country and some south american countries and those guys pound out two jobs in a kitchen 12+ hours a day six days a week, for years, and they never bitch.
i would like to see white guys pounding out a 300+ cover night in a kitchen with no errors after slaving over a grill or saute station for the entirety of the day. it just doesn't happen. i respect people with good work ethic and they definitely have it over home grown lazy Americans.
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That's been my experience as well. Those fuckers work their asses off and never complain. You stick most white people in the same job and they are bitching all day long most of the time and moping around complaining about how their legs hurt. I respect them for their hardcore work ethic. They do what it takes.
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Instand by that callingnit almost a right to immagrate may not serve people who already live in places.That seems pretty bad. If I live somewhere nice, should I be able to protest a bunch of no means people flooding into my area?
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Why should people have to accept poor working conditions, or being over-worked? These kinds of things lower our standards of living. These illegal Mexicans, by accepting these kinds of crap, are sending out a message to business owners that it is OK to treat their employees this way, and/or to offer low pay for hard/demanding jobs. These owners will then never increase their wages to compensate for it or to improve the working conditions. This doesn't benefit anyone and it especially fucks over the regular Americans.
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What's the alternative? You want to work in Strawberry field?
I don't think kicking all the illegals out will improve working conditions. Greedy corporations will always be greedy corporations.
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I hate it so fucking much when the ones who sound liberal turn out to have been cracking an invisible whip the whole fucking time
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I don't. But some Americans do. And if business owners want people to stand in the sun for 8 hours straight picking strawberries, they better be prepared to offer very competitive rates.
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Stop letting them in. Privatize immigration for efficient legal immigrant instead of waiting years for citizenship.
Problem solved.
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Privatize immigration. Yes, that's a great idea, let's just get rid of countries altogether and hand all our shit over to global multinationals, that sounds perfect
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You referring to me? I'm not cracking any whips. Just stating my observations. I don't see illegals stealing high value jobs, they mostly are doing physical labor type stuff. The jobs most lazy americans wont do.
And if you do.. well then great.. go out there and do it. If you do your job properly I don't think you have to worry about illegals stealing it.
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I said they weren't stealing MY jobs. Mainly because I don't work in landscaping/hardscaping, carpeting, painting, whatever. I'm in IT. Job security wot wot
the "Mexicans" i know are actually from every central american country and some south american countries and those guys pound out two jobs in a kitchen 12+ hours a day six days a week, for years, and they never bitch.
i would like to see white guys pounding out a 300+ cover night in a kitchen with no errors after slaving over a grill or saute station for the entirety of the day. it just doesn't happen. i respect people with good work ethic and they definitely have it over home grown lazy Americans.
An illegals work ethic is completely immaterial to the discussion, they flood a already large pool of labor relative to demand, that fucks everyone over, including the highly educated.
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When I was starting there were only Americans doing those jobs. They aren't stealing the jobs. They are undercutting the price. Much like the Indians are doing to you.
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Imagine that without these illegal immigrants, companies would actually have to raise the pay for these hard physical jobs so that enough Americans would be enticed into them. Then we would have more people working and pay taxes. These people would actually enjoy good (or better) standards of living. It's a win-win.
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I don't think that sort of mass deportation could occur without causing a humanitarian catastrophe. Like seriously, the U.S. annexing Mexico has got to become an attractive option at some point, whether you think it's something we should do or not
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Shroomism said: You referring to me? I'm not cracking any whips. Just stating my observations. I don't see illegals stealing high value jobs, they mostly are doing physical labor type stuff. The jobs most lazy americans wont do.
It's called a domino effect, they push US workers into more skilled and educated sectors which depress those wages. Have you not noticed that wage growth in high level professions has been pretty much dead the last 15 years?
It's not about them taking that specific low skilled job, it's about them making US workers flood into the mid and high skilled professions, and killing those markets for US workers.
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Imagine that without these illegal immigrants, companies would actually have to raise the pay for these hard physical jobs so that enough Americans would be enticed into them. Then we would have more people working and pay taxes. These people would actually enjoy good (or better) standards of living. It's a win-win.
Maybe. But for that to happen, companies would have to increase pay and standards, and I don't see that happening for a lot of companies regardless.
I used to work for a video card company, one of the most well respected in the industry. It was owned by a Chinese guy, and he treated it like we were in China. If someone complained about the standards and wages he would just kick them out and get someone that didn't. Not having illegals isn't going to solve those problems of greedy ass corporations whose ONLY concern is the bottom line and give not a single fuck about employee happiness or quality of living.
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What racist bullshit. First of, you work IT. What makes you an expert oon manual labore employment? Second of all when I started all the Americans worked harder than all the illegals I see today. It is your generation that are spoiled brats who don't want to hustle and won't get dirty. It has nothing to do with immigration status. They'd rather live with their parents and be on assistance.
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I used to work in manual labor back in the day. I did hardscaping/landscaping and construction. Take your slander elsewhere. I've worked my ass off every day since I was 16. Fuck off with that spoiled brat bullshit.
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What racist bullshit. First of, you work IT. What makes you an expert oon manual labore employment? Second of all when I started all the Americans worked harder than all the illegals I see today. It is your generation that are spoiled brats who don't want to hustle and won't get dirty. It has nothing to do with immigration status. They'd rather live with their parents and be on assistance.
Yea. And also, I think these illegal immigrants have so much "work ethics" because they HAVE TO, not because it's some sort of in-born traits that they have. I am pretty sure that if we legalized all of them, suddenly they would turn into these "lazy Americans", too.
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Shroomism said: I used to work in manual labor back in the day. I did hardscaping/landscaping and construction. Take your slander elsewhere. I've worked my ass off every day since I was 16. Fuck off with that spoiled brat bullshit.
He wasn't talking about you. He was talking about your generation. You don't have to take it personally unless it's true of you
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Imagine that without these illegal immigrants, companies would actually have to raise the pay for these hard physical jobs so that enough Americans would be enticed into them. Then we would have more people working and pay taxes. These people would actually enjoy good (or better) standards of living. It's a win-win.
Maybe. But for that to happen, companies would have to increase pay and standards, and I don't see that happening for a lot of companies regardless.
I used to work for a video card company, one of the most well respected in the industry. It was owned by a Chinese guy, and he treated it like we were in China. If someone complained about the standards and wages he would just kick them out and get someone that didn't. Not having illegals isn't going to solve those problems of greedy ass corporations whose ONLY concern is the bottom line and give not a single fuck about employee happiness or quality of living.
If he can easily replace someone then he will cut the fuck out of a whiner. And he should. It's his company. If you don't like the conditions you can fuck off back to the Pub. If it is that easy to replace you then you are fucked.
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Was asking what makes me an expert on manual labor since I work in IT. I dunno, maybe working in manual labor for years. That's just been my observations.
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And doesn't the exact same thing go for every company in existence? And is especially true for manual labor roles? How is getting rid of illegals going to solve that?
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Imagine that without these illegal immigrants, companies would actually have to raise the pay for these hard physical jobs so that enough Americans would be enticed into them. Then we would have more people working and pay taxes. These people would actually enjoy good (or better) standards of living. It's a win-win.
Maybe. But for that to happen, companies would have to increase pay and standards, and I don't see that happening for a lot of companies regardless.
I used to work for a video card company, one of the most well respected in the industry. It was owned by a Chinese guy, and he treated it like we were in China. If someone complained about the standards and wages he would just kick them out and get someone that didn't. Not having illegals isn't going to solve those problems of greedy ass corporations whose ONLY concern is the bottom line and give not a single fuck about employee happiness or quality of living.
You're too young to remember, but there was a time in America when employers respected their workers and gave them generous benefits and raises to keep them, guess why they did that? TIGHT LABOR MARKET!
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Next fall, take the third path: invade Mexico.
As president, I promise to invade Mexico and end this ugly racist argument about what to do with the illegals altogether. It's a good thing. Vote BlindSophist 2016
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Right, but my thing is.. .you guys think illegal immigrants are the source of that entire problem? It is far more complex than that.
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Nobody is saying that illegal immigrants are the "source" of that entire problem. We are just saying that these people contribute a lot to that particular problem and if they are removed (if this can be done), we will face a smaller/lesser problem.
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Shroomism said: Right, but my thing is.. .you guys think illegal immigrants are the source of that entire problem? It is far more complex than that.
They're a main part of the equation, along with globalization and productivity gains. If we continue to ship more jobs out of the US, that means more people chasing domestic work, why would we want illegals taking what small amount of domestic jobs that are left? It makes no sense unless you're a very rich person.
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Shroomism said: That's been my experience as well. Those fuckers work their asses off and never complain. You stick most white people in the same job and they are bitching all day long most of the time and moping around complaining about how their legs hurt. I respect them for their hardcore work ethic. They do what it takes.
What racist bullshit. First of, you work IT. What makes you an expert oon manual labore employment? Second of all when I started all the Americans worked harder than all the illegals I see today. It is your generation that are spoiled brats who don't want to hustle and won't get dirty. It has nothing to do with immigration status. They'd rather live with their parents and be on assistance.
Yea. And also, I think these illegal immigrants have so much "work ethics" because they HAVE TO, not because it's some sort of in-born traits that they have. I am pretty sure that if we legalized all of them, suddenly they would turn into these "lazy Americans", too.
I don't see them busting their hump as hard as Anericans did 40 years ago. Or even 20 years ago. I worked as a dishwasher in a restaurant that was completely staffed by Americsna about 40 years ago. It's a lot easier now than it was then.
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What racist bullshit. First of, you work IT. What makes you an expert oon manual labore employment? Second of all when I started all the Americans worked harder than all the illegals I see today. It is your generation that are spoiled brats who don't want to hustle and won't get dirty. It has nothing to do with immigration status. They'd rather live with their parents and be on assistance.
Yea. And also, I think these illegal immigrants have so much "work ethics" because they HAVE TO, not because it's some sort of in-born traits that they have. I am pretty sure that if we legalized all of them, suddenly they would turn into these "lazy Americans", too.
I don't see them busting their hump as hard as Anericans did 40 years ago. Or even 20 years ago. I worked as a dishwasher in a restaurant that was completely staffed by Americsna about 40 years ago. It's a lot easier now than it was then.
Anericans, Americsna? It's like your autocorrect includes spelling errors of the word "Americans".
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No one in this entire thread addresses the fact that mexico only contributes to about half of all illegal immigration, and actually illegal immigration from mexico is on the decline.
But Illegal immigration from Guatemala and El Salvador and similar countries are on the rise slightly. Though illegal immigraton as a whole is starting to even itself out.
Also, like 10-20% of illegal immigrants are from asia or europe.
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I believe I have been scrupulous in saying illegals and not Mexicans. Most of the ones around here, NYC area, are not Mexican and a lot of them are from Eastern Europe.
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I don't really think it can be done though. It's unrealistic. They will still get in somehow.
Also in regards to "my generation" being lazy.. I'm 34.. Gen X? Which anyone born between 1960s and early 1980s falls into. Which zappa unless you were born in the 50s.. we are part of the same generation.
Calling Millennials lazy is kind of short-sighted though. In the 50s, you could work a part time job and support yourself through college. You could live fairly decently on minimum wage. That's impossible now. Thanks to the baby boomer generation. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/01/09/the_most_entitled_generation_isnt_millennials_its_baby_boomers_125184.html
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Shroomism]
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Baby boomers are 1946 - 1964. I am one of the last of the baby boomers.
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Gen X? That is a creation of lazy ass media, just like Baby Boomer is. It means nothing. I'm 24 years older than you. I have seen a steady erosion of work ethic since the idiot hippies started to grow up and take jobs and whine and whine and whine.
And no, you couldn't support a family on a minimum wage job and probably not yourself even then
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I'm sorry but if you're still ignorant enough to think illegals are hurting our economy it simply comes down to cultural bias, racism, or the fact you don't like Mexican. It's like the gay marriage issue, if at this point you are still against it, it's simply just because you don't like gay people.
And if you guys are trying to tell me an illegal who doesn't speak, write, or read any English can come here and take a compedative job away from a hard working American that's just stupid.
But enough feeding this troll thread.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: SARAtonin]
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SARAtonin said: I'm sorry but if you're still ignorant enough to think illegals are hurting our economy it simply comes down to cultural bias, racism, or the fact you don't like Mexican. It's like the gay marriage issue, if at this point you are still against it, it's simply just because you don't like gay people.
And if you guys are trying to tell me an illegal who doesn't speak, write, or read any English can come here and take a compedative job away from a hard working American that's just stupid.
This feels like a person attack. You seem to say that if someone doesn't like illegal immigrants, it must be because he is "racist". This line of thinking is both overly simplistic as well as prejudiced.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: WAN]
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Just speakin truth, nothing personal about it.
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SARAtonin said: Just speakin truth, nothing personal about it.
It's strictly an economic issue, it has nothing to do with race, stop mis-characterizing the debate by slandering people you disagree with, typical liberal BS.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: qman]
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SARAtonin said: Just speakin truth, nothing personal about it.
It's strictly an economic issue, it has nothing to do with race, stop mis-characterizing the debate by slandering people you disagree with, typical liberal BS.
this, yo.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: WAN]
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I really need to change my username
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: SARAtonin]
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SARAtonin said: I'm sorry but if you're still ignorant enough to think illegals are hurting our economy it simply comes down to cultural bias, racism, or the fact you don't like Mexican. It's like the gay marriage issue, if at this point you are still against it, it's simply just because you don't like gay people.
And if you guys are trying to tell me an illegal who doesn't speak, write, or read any English can come here and take a compedative job away from a hard working American that's just stupid.
This feels like a person attack. You seem to say that if someone doesn't like illegal immigrants, it must be because he is "racist". This line of thinking is both overly simplistic as well as prejudiced.
I don't dislike them. I get along with them at work all the time but you have to be a drooling moron if you fail to realize they are a drain on the economy dragging wages down and operate with either stolen ID or in the underground economy that doesn't pay any taxes and freeloads on those that do pay taxes. I would further posit that even legal citizens who work low wage jobs are basically parasites because they suck off the tit of those who pay real taxes.
Kick all the illegals out and make the legal system more sane.
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SARAtonin said: Just speakin truth, nothing personal about it.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: SARAtonin]
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SARAtonin said: Just speakin truth, nothing personal about it.
Yeah, "truth".
Didnt your history thread get shit on cause not everything you said was even accurate?
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You guys are all failing to recognize the benefits of invasion. Invasion benefits everyone.
Right wingers should be happy because: -The southern border would become so short that it would be relatively easy to fence off and patrol -New Markets for American businesses to expand into -New Markets for real estate development -It simplifies the manufacturing process by unifying the labeling and packaging regulations of the 2 countries. -There are vast mexican oil reserves -jobs, jobs, jobs. The entire country would have to be rebuilt to American standards. -more jobs. Mexican Waters would become open for exploitation by our fishing fleets. -no more evil cartels -no more illegals sending their paychecks home to Mexico
Left-wingers should be happy because: -Massive reduction in deportations etc. -according to fox news, most of those new americans would vote democrat. -Massive increase in standard of living for mexicans. -jobs, jobs, jobs, see explanation above. -it would become safe to vacation in mexico again(i guess that would be cool for right-wingers too) -wage increases across the board due to illegals no longer feeling obliged to work for less than citizens. -greater availability of dank mexican food -more impetus for the school system to reform and teach languages in elementary school instead of high school
There are probably loads of benefits i haven't thought of yet too. Seriously. This is not a troll. Think about it for a minute. Manifest Destiny took us from sea to shining sea, and the Monroe Doctrine established this hemisphere as our domain and sphere of influence. Annexing the rest of Mexico is the logical next step.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: ballsalsa]
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invade every country but england and the other white nations. kill all the people besides white and black people because brown and yellow people breed like rats and will outbreed us till we are wiped off the face of the planet.
There are billions of chinese and billions of people in india. Compare that to america where combined we are only 300 million, and that includes the first generation hispanics that immigrate here and have 17 anchor children. Thank god second generation hispanics dont do as their parents did or it would be even worse. I live on the canadian border pretty much and I often question what border i'm at.
plus too us americans can spread ourselves out more because we hate eachother just as much. i am getting more pissed by the day. So many mother fuckers in the way now. Taking up my land and air. Weed out the others before all the resources dry up. Plus i need more space. Suck it up and do what needs to be done. Get rid of them before they get rid of us.
I'll take my ban now. I'm racist and I don't care. People have differences. They always will. Just accept it. who am i kidding, i would make suicide legal plus and kill anyone who was crazy, born handicapped, or that made repeated negative impacts on innocent people. they would all be put to sleep. regardless of color.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: sprinkles]
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zappaisgod said: How is the US squeezing Mexico dry? That's nonsense. Mexico is fucked up because it is run by criminals and populated by morons.
by sending them $3bn per year... I could use a little squeezing at those prices
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i hate liberals because they want to give people who dont contribute free shit while taking it from people that do. not faaaair!
I hate conservatives because they push their beliefs on the rest of the population. they are stupid. you cant be pro life and not want to dump money into public funding. you dont want to pay people on welfare but you think they should all have fatherless babies if they get knocked up? LOL good god what a bunch of dumb fucks. when it comes down to it where do you think their money will go. they live in fantasy land i think.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: sprinkles]
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yeah, but with Invasion, both liberals and conservatives get to have their cake and eat it too
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Has the thread gotten this long without anyone making the joke that the Mexican invasion is already well underway, but that it's going the other direction? To be fair I only skimmed the posts.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: psi]
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actually, i think you are the first to put it that way. Though, in all honesty, i titled the thread like that to lure some right-wingers in here to make that exact joke.
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said: You guys are all failing to recognize the benefits of invasion. Invasion benefits everyone.
Right wingers should be happy because: -The southern border would become so short that it would be relatively easy to fence off and patrol -New Markets for American businesses to expand into -New Markets for real estate development -It simplifies the manufacturing process by unifying the labeling and packaging regulations of the 2 countries. -There are vast mexican oil reserves -jobs, jobs, jobs. The entire country would have to be rebuilt to American standards. -more jobs. Mexican Waters would become open for exploitation by our fishing fleets. -no more evil cartels -no more illegals sending their paychecks home to Mexico
Left-wingers should be happy because: -Massive reduction in deportations etc. -according to fox news, most of those new americans would vote democrat. -Massive increase in standard of living for mexicans. -jobs, jobs, jobs, see explanation above. -it would become safe to vacation in mexico again(i guess that would be cool for right-wingers too) -wage increases across the board due to illegals no longer feeling obliged to work for less than citizens. -greater availability of dank mexican food -more impetus for the school system to reform and teach languages in elementary school instead of high school
There are probably loads of benefits i haven't thought of yet too. Seriously. This is not a troll. Think about it for a minute. Manifest Destiny took us from sea to shining sea, and the Monroe Doctrine established this hemisphere as our domain and sphere of influence. Annexing the rest of Mexico is the logical next step.
so we're all on board then? Invasion 2016? it's agreed?
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Bump Time!
Gunmen Kill Prominent Mexican Journalist Who Covered Drug Cartels
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“However shocking, we know it is impunity that allows this violence and all these murders to happen, because there is no cost to killing here, and killing journalists even less so,” he said.
Ríodoce had built a reputation over the years for its coverage of the drug war from its front lines in Sinaloa. From there the cartel leader Joaquín Guzmán Loera, known as El Chapo, ran what was the world’s most powerful narcotics racket. Mr. Guzmán is being held in New York awaiting trial.
After word of Mr. Valdez’s murder spread, his Twitter message about the death of a La Jornada colleague, Miroslava Breach, who was fatally shot in front of her teenage son in the northern state of Chihuahua on March 23, was repeated many times.
“Let them kill us all, if the sentence for covering this hell is death,” he wrote. “No to silence.”
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zappaisgod said: Why would we want to adopt a failed state? We already have Puerto Rico
"We already have Puerto Rico"
And what a huge mistake that was, when will people learn, bringing third world people into a developed economy is a disaster.
We didn't ask to be part of the US in 1898
 Might not be close to a first world country, but the US has shamelessly taken billions from the island ever since the Jones Act.
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ballsalsa said: Invading and annexing Mexico may just be the best answer to solve the problems facing both Mexico and the U.S.
discuss unintelligibly
Bad idea the US would become significantly poorer and more corrupt as well as less educated. The amount of money we would need to pump into to Mexico to prop them up would be astronomical.
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We didn't ask to be part of the US in 1898
Hey, you got annexed fair and square!
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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: ballsalsa]
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Criminal gangs kill 11 in Mexico's Veracruz state
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Eleven people were killed in Mexico's Veracruz state by criminal gangs on Saturday, including four children and the head of the state's federal police and two other federal police officers, Governor Miguel Angel Yunes said.
Armed gunmen shot and killed the three police officers, including the head of the federal police in Veracruz, Camilo Juan Castagne, at a restaurant in the city of Cardel.
In the port city of Coatzacoalcos, two adults and four children were killed, while two women were killed in the city of Orizaba.
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