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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22087225 - 08/13/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think it fucks over workers from both countries.




No, it gives Mexican workers a decent paying job they otherwise wouldn't have in the first place, that's a benefit.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: WAN]
    #22087239 - 08/13/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

An American who would be paid cents on the hour to work in a hot field? C'mon. The problem with immigration is abstract, with the fact that it creates a multi-tiered semi-racialized system for coercive assignment of labor. Just America doing what America does. :whip:


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Shroomism]
    #22087244 - 08/13/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What if they are legally American? What then? Then the whole "mexicans are stealing our JERRBS" rant is just racism.




If the Mexican in question is indeed an American (as in, they came here legally) then it's a different matter.  But most Mexicans are here illegally though.

If it makes you happier, I will change my terminology from "Mexcian" to "illegal immigrants".

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If they work harder and are better suited for the job, then how is that stealing?




Do you have any proof that these illegal immigrants "worker harder"?  And that they are "better suited for the job"?  The way I see, they simply undercut the locals by demanding lower pay.  And yes, this IS job-stealing because like I stated earlier, jobs are finite.  Any job going to an illegal immigrant is a job that could have gone to an American but didn't.  Wealth and jobs are being "drained" out of this country (USA).

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I said they weren't stealing MY jobs. Mainly because I don't work in landscaping/hardscaping, carpeting, painting, whatever. I'm in IT. Job security wot wot




So you only care about yourself and your own job security.  The hell with the rest of your countrymen who are in the landscaping/carpeting/painting fields.  I hear ya.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: WAN]
    #22087253 - 08/13/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

people in india are actually trying to steal IT jobs from americans right now


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: WAN]
    #22087262 - 08/13/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How about giving Mexico the confederate south?

That would solve a hell of a lot of problems


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #22087273 - 08/13/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What if they are legally American? What then? Then the whole "mexicans are stealing our JERRBS" rant is just racism.
If they work harder and are better suited for the job, then how is that stealing?
I watch those guys work. They work hard at what they do. Not many white folks can keep up with them or perform at the same rate and in the brutal heat etc.
You do realize the vast majority of people living in the US, immigrated here.. or their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents did. It's not like white people originated in the US.

I said they weren't stealing MY jobs. Mainly because I don't work in landscaping/hardscaping, carpeting, painting, whatever. I'm in IT. Job security wot wot




They under cut wages, that fucks over US workers.

We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more?  The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to keep everyone's wages from moving higher.

When my great grandparents came LEGALLY into the US 100 years ago, they had sponsors and jobs waiting for them, big difference.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Shroomism]
    #22087283 - 08/13/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Mexicans work fucking hard. They aren't stealing my jobs.



Some illegals work hard.  So do I.  They are depressing wages in the restaurant and construction and service industries.  If you want to get paid you should have to work hard.  None of the illegals I've ever seen work any harder than I do.  I don't know what you do for a living but I suspect it doesn't involve a callous.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: qman]
    #22087288 - 08/13/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
They under cut wages, that fucks over US workers.

We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more?  The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to cheap everyone's wages from moving higher.




Yes. That! Exactly. I disagree with you on a lot but when you're right, you're right.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Shroomism]
    #22087298 - 08/13/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What if they are legally American? What then? Then the whole "mexicans are stealing our JERRBS" rant is just racism.
If they work harder and are better suited for the job, then how is that stealing?
I watch those guys work. They work hard at what they do. Not many white folks can keep up with them or perform at the same rate and in the brutal heat etc.
You do realize the vast majority of people living in the US, immigrated here.. or their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents did. It's not like white people originated in the US.

I said they weren't stealing MY jobs. Mainly because I don't work in landscaping/hardscaping, carpeting, painting, whatever. I'm in IT. Job security wot wot



So basically your attitude is I don't have to compete and have my wage depressed by illegal invaders so I don't a fuck.  We have enough unemployed indigenous morons for those jobs.  Kick the fuckers out.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #22087300 - 08/13/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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An American who would be paid cents on the hour to work in a hot field? C'mon. The problem with immigration is abstract, with the fact that it creates a multi-tiered semi-racialized system for coercive assignment of labor. Just America doing what America does. :whip:




I wouldn't even care if the government subsidized the wages of the US citizen doing the field work, as long as it was a US citizen doing the work, not some illegal.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22087302 - 08/13/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
They under cut wages, that fucks over US workers.

We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more?  The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to cheap everyone's wages from moving higher.




Yes. That! Exactly. I disagree with you on a lot but when you're right, you're right.



That is why I despise the Chamber of Commerce.  Fuck those assholes.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22087312 - 08/13/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I thought this was going to be like the British invasion. :sad: I wanted to hear Mexican bands.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22087314 - 08/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
They under cut wages, that fucks over US workers.

We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more?  The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to cheap everyone's wages from moving higher.




Yes. That! Exactly. I disagree with you on a lot but when you're right, you're right.




These illegal loving liberals don't understand the real motivation behind the open border policy, it's NOT to help out Julio and his people, it's too fuck over US citizens so the very rich can get even richer. 

The pro-immigration liberal is serving the very rich and they don't even know it.  :rofl2:


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Sun King]
    #22087316 - 08/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I thought this was going to be like the British invasion. :sad: I wanted to hear Mexican bands.





Britain is being invaded right now.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: qman]
    #22087317 - 08/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well, this brings us back to the question of the U.S. annexing the remainder of Mexico. That would eliminate a ton of "illegals".


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Sun King]
    #22087318 - 08/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Have you ever actually heard a Mexican band?


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22087321 - 08/13/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm in IT like I said. But I used to work construction and hardscaping and I worked with a lot of mexicans.. mainly because those guys can tolerate doing brutal labor out in the heat, not many white folks want those jobs.. and if they do.. they usually don't last long. I don't think it's really racist to say that mexicans are hard workers and can tolerate working in the heat better than most. That's just been true from my own experience. They are from a hot climate.
But if someone is worried about illegal immigrants stealing their job.. then maybe they need to get better or something.. you might have bigger problems to worry about if an illegal can swoop in and steal your job.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: qman]
    #22087325 - 08/13/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
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qman said:
They under cut wages, that fucks over US workers.

We have an massive excess pool of labor, we have too many unemployed citizens, why would we want more?  The people at the top want an excess pool of labor to cheap everyone's wages from moving higher.




Yes. That! Exactly. I disagree with you on a lot but when you're right, you're right.




These illegal loving liberals don't understand the real motivation behind the open border policy, it's NOT to help out Julio and his people, it's too fuck over US citizens so the very rich can get even richer. 

The pro-immigration liberal is serving the very rich and they don't even know it.  :rofl2:




It kinda fucks over Julio too. It fucks over everybody who isn't a player on that level.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #22087327 - 08/13/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah stop being poor and be rich. good advice.


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Re: Mexican Invasion? [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #22087330 - 08/13/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah that's exactly what I said. Excellent reading skills.


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