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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23940656 - 12/19/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23940683 - 12/19/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i'm not American, so i don't care. i could have swung either way, Bern, or Trump. both make choices. unlike Dildo Baggins Clinton.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23940777 - 12/19/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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i'm not American, so i don't care. i could have swung either way, Bern, or Trump. both make choices. unlike Dildo Baggins Clinton.




Yeah, I just can't believe how pathetic he is to bow down to her in the primary, even anti trump republicans didn't roll over like he did,

Even though I think he's wrong on pretty much everything, I didn't think he was pathetic like that


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23940781 - 12/19/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

don't see your point. seems like you're just dragging him through the mud, whilst missing the real reason why he kept on top of Killery...as in, that he wanted to watch her like a hawk to make sure she didn't do anything crazy, like she was apparently planning.

huh. sounds dutiful to me.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23941700 - 12/19/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bernie thew a lot of his credibility away when he bent over for Hilary.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23941726 - 12/19/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

he doesn't do public relations...:facepalm: why can't you people see past those thick fucking glasses?


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23941916 - 12/19/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bernie thew a lot of his credibility away when he bent over for Hilary.




What was the chose? A putin dick sucking weasel?


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: sweeper54]
    #23942454 - 12/20/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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What was the chose? A putin dick sucking weasel?




Run third party was a legitimate choice and he'd have done well ... Not saying he would have won, but he would have served his followers a lot better than bending over for Hillary.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23942551 - 12/20/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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What was the chose? A putin dick sucking weasel?




Run third party was a legitimate choice and he'd have done well ... Not saying he would have won, but he would have served his followers a lot better than bending over for Hillary.




How do you figure?

He wouldnt have got the progressive platform.

Wouldnt be practically choosing the next DNC chair.

His only relevance after Nov 8th wouldve been blame and vitriol from the Democrats as a scapegoat for why Hillary lost.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23942578 - 12/20/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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How do you figure?

He wouldnt have got the progressive platform.

Wouldnt be practically choosing the next DNC chair.

His only relevance after Nov 8th wouldve been blame and vitriol from the Democrats as a scapegoat for why Hillary lost.




How do you know that Bernie running would have insured a Hillary loss?  I could make an argument that Bernie as a 3rd party candidate might have hurt Trump more than Hillary.  It's impossible to know the outcome if Bernie had manned up and run as an independent, which he should have done from the outset.  Keep in mind, he hammered her in the primaries and a lot of democrats think that really hurt her with younger voters and progressives.

Bernie's influence on the Democratic party will be minimal.  They don't like him, he's not really a democrat, he doesn't have a coalition or following in Congress and he's nearing the end of his career.  They're just putting up with him for now.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23942599 - 12/20/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Regardless, he wouldve got the blame, just like Russia and Jill Stein are getting it now.

What would that have netted us? A new failure third party that everyone would hate more than the Greens.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #23942666 - 12/20/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Regardless, he wouldve got the blame, just like Russia and Jill Stein are getting it now.

What would that have netted us? A new failure third party that everyone would hate more than the Greens.




I understand your conclusions and why you feel that way, I'm not convinced that's how it would have played out.  Just as Trump was a mega surprise through the entire process as no one thought he had a chance, Bernie might have caused some things to happen that we just can't see in hindsight.  Who knows, maybe he would have won given how unpopular Hillary and Trump were.

At any rate, we all lose when the only choices are people like Hillary and Trump.  We desperately need to break the stranglehold our two party system has on our elections process.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23942782 - 12/20/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Trust me I was hoping with all my might for Bernie to run third party.

But its clear now that reforming the Democratic party is the pragmatoc, and honestly only real feasible, solution.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23942854 - 12/20/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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What was the chose? A putin dick sucking weasel?




Run third party was a legitimate choice and he'd have done well ... Not saying he would have won, but he would have served his followers a lot better than bending over for Hillary.




I agree, many Bernie supporters went to trump rather than Hillary, she really was that bad


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23944018 - 12/20/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree, many Bernie supporters went to trump rather than Hillary, she really was that bad




She was the worst candidate in modern history.  No one has ever blown two big leads the way she did ... never.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Takethatdarwin]
    #23944206 - 12/20/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Anyone else notice that every assange or Snowden leak always confirms government narratives and never reveals anything too damning about governments involvement in much more nefarious activities. Limited hangouts?



No, I didn't notice that.  Most of the leaks I've read about have been very damaging to the Government.  :shrug:


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23944791 - 12/20/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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What was the chose? A putin dick sucking weasel?




Run third party was a legitimate choice and he'd have done well ... Not saying he would have won, but he would have served his followers a lot better than bending over for Hillary.




I agree, many Bernie supporters went to trump rather than Hillary, she really was that bad





Fuck them both! Hillary/the DNC got what they deserved. The country got what it deserved "Fucking Hell on Earth".


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23945196 - 12/21/16 04:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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No, I didn't notice that.  Most of the leaks I've read about have been very damaging to the Government.  :shrug:




The effect of all the Snowden disclosures, however, was positive.  Government was in severe over reach mode in terms of too much monitoring of everyone in the country.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23945241 - 12/21/16 05:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Trust me I was hoping with all my might for Bernie to run third party.

But its clear now that reforming the Democratic party is the pragmatoc, and honestly only real feasible, solution.



"Hoping with all my might"

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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23945992 - 12/21/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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No, I didn't notice that.  Most of the leaks I've read about have been very damaging to the Government.  :shrug:




The effect of all the Snowden disclosures, however, was positive.  Government was in severe over reach mode in terms of too much monitoring of everyone in the country.



Most definitely.  But the Government wasn't happy about that being leaked.


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