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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Astral Pain]
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Enlil said: So? Why should someone be locked up for a non-violent crime?
I think enabling a murderer is a violent crime. In my original comment I didn't say anything about whether or not I wanted her to go to prison. Just that the world would be a better place if people in such powerful positions COULD go to prison. Which I don't believe to be the case.
Ambassador Stevens asked for increased security on numerous occasions leading up to the Benghazi attack. This didn't occur as a result of a viral youtube video as Hillary had claimed. It was enabled to happen to a degree.

All I've heard was that the republicans were in charge of the state dept, not Hillary, that's why all them requests were denied...
Don't get mad at me, it's really what I heard!
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22813170 - 01/22/16 11:49 PM (8 years, 8 days ago) |
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Hillary has close contacts in every facet of government. She was the Secretary of State. The head of the DNC used to be one of her campaign managers, and appears to be very supportive of her. Her husband is a former president. She has friends in very high places who rally behind her.
She has enormous wealth. Money is power in our society. That's why movie stars get 3 days in jail for cocaine, and street rats get 10 years.
You should know, better than anyone else, that big money protects people from imprisonment, and political clout doubly protects them. People go to prison for 'non-violent crimes' all the time. My statement was to say that justice should be equal for everyone. If I would go to prison for what Clinton has done, then so should she.
Yea, I did 9 months felony time for weed, this lying ass bitch breaks laws and plays games with peoples lives and gets caught, yet is still running for president.
Lets face it you guys, she's not "going down" anytime soon. The media is treating Hillary as a respected and legitimate candidate. There has been no mention of felonious criminal acts and/or treason. They haven't mentioned the emails in the Democratic primaries since the Bernie sanders stunt, and the Republicans don't seem to be touching on it much either.
You might be surprised to learn that the majority of the lemmings living in this country either don't care, or think this whole email thing is a joke. People are behaving as they should and things are starting to settle down. Hillary 2016 whether you like it or not.
Don't you think it is audacious of her to even be running for president right now, given the circumstances? If the threat of incarceration were truly viable don't you think she would be focusing on the FBI investigation and not running for the god damn presidency? She's making jokes about the whole thing. 'I like snap chat, the messages delete themselves!' hahahahaha!, so funny! The game is rigged and she is in on it. The absolute worst that could happen, is she loses the nomination and fades out of politics.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Enlil]
#22813233 - 01/23/16 12:11 AM (8 years, 8 days ago) |
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Enlil said: So? Why should someone be locked up for a non-violent crime?
I can think of a hundred non-violent crimes that deserve jail time...
Stealing your neighbors car Jacking off outside an elementary school Dumping wastewater in a river system Trafficking Heroin Sex slave trafficking Consensual sex between a 30 year old and 12 year old Setting up a Ponzi scheme and ripping off the public for $billions Pooping in someone's cereal The list goes on....
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22813373 - 01/23/16 12:59 AM (8 years, 8 days ago) |
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All I've heard was that the republicans were in charge of the state dept, not Hillary, that's why all them requests were denied...
Don't get mad at me, it's really what I heard!
At this point, what difference does it make? I've heard both sides of the story, and even stories that Steven's denied additional security, but explained in different ways. There's so much shit that must have gone on to keep an arms deal secret when Americans died in the process. Hopefully her email case will do her in for the sake of the deceased family members. She'll eventually die of cancer or some other horrific condition from karma catching up with her.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Astral Pain]
#22813914 - 01/23/16 06:47 AM (8 years, 8 days ago) |
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Gotta keep her majesty off the stage as much as possible. With absolutely nothing substantive to say, they can't risk her getting off script and doing even more damage to her bombing campaign by shooting herself in the foot.
Hillary Clinton angers Iowa fans who waited hours for five-minute speech
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/22/hillary-clinton-angers-iowa-fans-who-waited-hours-for-five-minute-speech
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Hillary Clinton left her audience cold in Iowa City on Thursday night, after she spoke for less than five minutes to a crowd of more than a thousand people, some of whom had lined up for more than an hour to see her.
After a day marred by a new poll showing Bernie Sanders leading her by eight points in Iowa, Clinton might have been expected to go for broke during a rally at the University of Iowa, which featured a performance by popstar Demi Lovato.
But Clinton did not refer to the Vermont senator, or much else, in her speech. The lack of length and substance of her address appeared to upset some in the crowd.
“It was like a political commercial,” said Allison Steigerwald, a 24-year-old graduate student at the university. “I thought she was saying goodbye to Demi and then she’d start her speech. But it never happened.”
“It was very short,” said Jennifer Marks, 22. “There were a lot of statements. Like: ‘We are we going to make things happen.’” Marks said. “No actual how.”
“I just feel bad for the people who got here at five,” she said.
Clinton made no mention of Sanders, or the CNN/ORC poll released on Thursday which showed the Vermont senator leading her by 51% to 43% in Iowa.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Enlil] 1
#22814446 - 01/23/16 10:32 AM (8 years, 8 days ago) |
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You think people should serve time for non-violent crimes?
You don't? How about Bernie Madoff?
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: zappaisgod]
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You think people should serve time for non-violent crimes?
You don't? How about Bernie Madoff?
Yea. I think he is confusing "non-violent crime" with "victimless crime".
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: amp244]
#22814861 - 01/23/16 12:32 PM (8 years, 8 days ago) |
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I would say staging terrorist attacks against an entire country counts as "violent"
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: zappaisgod]
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You don't? How about Bernie Madoff?
I don't think he should have done time either.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Enlil]
#22816524 - 01/23/16 07:27 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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What should be his punishment?????????? In yho of course.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: sweeper54]
#22816648 - 01/23/16 08:00 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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Fines, probation, restitution.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Enlil]
#22816966 - 01/23/16 09:22 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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I think you're in the minority on what should have happened to Madoff.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#22817556 - 01/24/16 02:03 AM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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Yea with those kind of consequences, you'd of had 5 more Madoffs the next day.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Enlil]
#22819097 - 01/24/16 01:30 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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Enlil said: Fines, probation, restitution.
If that's all you get for what he did you'd have a 100 more doing the same thing hiding the money out of the long arm of the law.
No, That man is where he should be.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: sweeper54]
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Enlil]
#22822759 - 01/25/16 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 days ago) |
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The money is gone. Whatever money was left is already being doled out. Everybody lost. He will die in prison and I hope he gets raped everyday although I doubt his wrinkly old ass is appealing to anybody.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Astral Pain]
#22825032 - 01/25/16 09:38 PM (8 years, 5 days ago) |
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Holy fuck! Is that real!?! 
Reminds me of Marco Rubio's ad lmao!
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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MAY 18, 2015
Administration knew three months before the November 2012 presidential election of ISIS plans to establish a caliphate in Iraq
Administration knew of arms being shipped from Benghazi to Syria
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it obtained more than 100 pages of previously classified “Secret” documents from the Department of Defense (DOD)and the Department of State revealing that DOD almost immediately reported that the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was committed by the al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood-linked “Brigades of the Captive Omar Abdul Rahman” (BCOAR), and had been planned at least 10 days in advance. Rahman is known as the Blind Sheikh, and is serving life in prison for his involvement in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and other terrorist acts. The new documents also provide the first official confirmation that shows the U.S. government was aware of arms shipments from Benghazi to Syria. The documents also include an August 2012 analysis warning of the rise of ISIS and the predicted failure of the Obama policy of regime change in Syria.
The documents were released in response to a court order in accordance with a May 15, 2014, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed against both the DOD and State Department seeking communications between the two agencies and congressional leaders “on matters related to the activities of any agency or department of the U.S. government at the Special Mission Compound and/or classified annex in Benghazi.”
Spelling and punctuation is duplicated in this release without corrections.
A Defense Department document from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), dated September 12, 2012, the day after the Benghazi attack, details that the attack on the compound had been carefully planned by the BOCAR terrorist group “to kill as many Americans as possible.” The document was sent to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Obama White House National Security Council. The heavily redacted Defense Department “information report” says that the attack on the Benghazi facility “was planned and executed by The Brigades of the Captive Omar Abdul Rahman (BCOAR).” The group subscribes to “AQ ideologies:”
The attack was planned ten or more days prior on approximately 01 September 2012. The intention was to attack the consulate and to kill as many Americans as possible to seek revenge for U.S. killing of Aboyahiye ((ALALIBY)) in Pakistan and in memorial of the 11 September 2001 atacks on the World Trade Center buildings.
“A violent radical,” the DIA report says, is “the leader of BCOAR is Abdul Baset ((AZUZ)), AZUZ was sent by ((ZAWARI)) to set up Al Qaeda (AQ) bases in Libya.” The group’s headquarters was set up with the approval of a “member of the Muslim brother hood movement…where they have large caches of weapons. Some of these caches are disguised by feeding troughs for livestock. They have SA-7 and SA-23/4 MANPADS…they train almost every day focusing on religious lessons and scriptures including three lessons a day of jihadist ideology.”
The Defense Department reported the group maintained written documents, in “a small rectangular room, approximately 12 meters by 6 meters…that contain information on all of the AQ activity in Libya.”
(Azuz is again blamed for the Benghazi attack in an October 2012 DIA document.)
The DOD documents also contain the first official documentation that the Obama administration knew that weapons were being shipped from the Port of Benghazi to rebel troops in Syria. An October 2012 report confirms:
Weapons from the former Libya military stockpiles were shipped from the port of Benghazi, Libya to the Port of Banias and the Port of Borj Islam, Syria. The weapons shipped during late-August 2012 were Sniper rifles, RPG’s, and 125 mm and 155mm howitzers missiles.
During the immediate aftermath of, and following the uncertainty caused by, the downfall of the ((Qaddafi)) regime in October 2011 and up until early September of 2012, weapons from the former Libya military stockpiles located in Benghazi, Libya were shipped from the port of Benghazi, Libya to the ports of Banias and the Port of Borj Islam, Syria. The Syrian ports were chosen due to the small amount of cargo traffic transiting these two ports. The ships used to transport the weapons were medium-sized and able to hold 10 or less shipping containers of cargo.
The DIA document further details:
The weapons shipped from Syria during late-August 2012 were Sniper rifles, RPG’s and 125mm and 155mm howitzers missiles. The numbers for each weapon were estimated to be: 500 Sniper rifles, 100 RPG launchers with 300 total rounds, and approximately 400 howitzers missiles [200 ea – 125mm and 200ea – 155 mm.]
The heavily redacted document does not disclose who was shipping the weapons.
Another DIA report, written in August 2012 (the same time period the U.S. was monitoring weapons flows from Libya to Syria), said that the opposition in Syria was driven by al Qaeda and other extremist Muslim groups: “the Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria.” The growing sectarian direction of the war was predicted to have dire consequences for Iraq, which included the “grave danger” of the rise of ISIS:
The deterioration of the situation has dire consequences on the Iraqi situation and are as follows:
This creates the ideal atmosphere for AQI [al Qaeda Iraq] to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi, and will provide a renewed momentum under the presumption of unifying the jihad among Sunni Iraq and Syria, and the rest of the Sunnis in the Arab world against what it considers one enemy, the dissenters. ISI could also declare an Islamic state through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of its territory.
Some of the “dire consequences” are blacked out but the DIA presciently warned one such consequence would be the “renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into Iraqi Arena.”
From a separate lawsuit, the State Department produced a document created the morning after the Benghazi attack by Hillary Clinton’s offices, and the Operations Center in the Office of the Executive Secretariat that was sent widely through the agency, including to Joseph McManus (then-Hillary Clinton’s executive assistant). At 6:00 am, a few hours after the attack, the top office of the State Department sent a “spot report” on the “Attack on U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi” that makes no mention of videos or demonstrations:
Four COM personnel were killed and three were wounded in an attack by dozens of fighters on the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi beginning approximately 1550 Eastern Time….
The State Department has yet to turn over any documents from the secret email accounts of Hillary Clinton and other top State Department officials.
“These documents are jaw-dropping. No wonder we had to file more FOIA lawsuits and wait over two years for them. If the American people had known the truth – that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and other top administration officials knew that the Benghazi attack was an al-Qaeda terrorist attack from the get-go – and yet lied and covered this fact up – Mitt Romney might very well be president. And why would the Obama administration continue to support the Muslim Brotherhood even after it knew it was tied to the Benghazi terrorist attack and to al Qaeda? These documents also point to connection between the collapse in Libya and the ISIS war – and confirm that the U.S. knew remarkable details about the transfer of arms from Benghazi to Syrian jihadists,” stated Tom Fitton, Judicial Watch president. “These documents show that the Benghazi cover-up has continued for years and is only unraveling through our independent lawsuits. The Benghazi scandal just got a whole lot worse for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.”
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-defense-state-department-documents-reveal-obama-administration-knew-that-al-qaeda-terrorists-had-planned-benghazi-attack-10-days-in-advance/
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Holy fuck! Is that real!?! 
Reminds me of Marco Rubio's ad lmao!
When was this video made?
It happened yesterday,
Choke: Hillary suffers massive coughing fit
http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/choke-hillary-suffers-massive-coughing-fit/
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Democrat front-runner Hillary Clinton had a coughing fit on Monday that will do little to quell rumors the former U.S. secretary of state is in poor health.
The 68-year-old Clinton had to stop a speech in West Des Moines, Iowa, to try and compose herself after a hacking attack.
“.@HillaryClinton has coughing attack at West Des Moines event, may be unable to finish remarks,” Amy Chozick of the New York Times said on Twitter.
Clinton’s health has been a question of speculation since her last coughing fit before the House Select Committee on Benghazi on October, 22, 2015. Media titan Matt Drudge called Clinton’s apparent health issues the “biggest revelation” of the Benghazi hearings.
“Hillary health was biggest revelation at hearing. Coughing fit. Slow-speaking, obviously induced by meds. Choose not to believe if you must,” Drudge tweeted.
I believe I posted this one here after it happened. Oh yeah, with the accompanying Darth Vader choke clip.
Clinton Coughing Fit at Benghazi Hearing
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Holy fuck! Is that real!?! 
Reminds me of Marco Rubio's ad lmao!
When was this video made?
So what, she had a coughing fit, Trump has diarrhea of the mouth every time he opens it.
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