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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: amp244]
    #22482920 - 11/05/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, we are in agreement that it's not happening soon.

Though if it were to happen, I wouldn't use the word "dire" to describe it.  :smirk:


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22483134 - 11/05/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Good discussion, but Fal that unemployment chart really isn't the accurate.  Either way, one time Bernanke was being questioned by Congress and they asked him why REAL unemployment was so high and why wages remain so stagnant for the large majority of US workers- his answer was globalization and productivity (technology gains).  He honestly said he didn't have any solutions for this structural problem.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: qman]
    #22483149 - 11/05/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Remember that time Obumble blamed high unemployment on atm's? And those fucking idiots reelected his dumb ass...


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: qman]
    #22483200 - 11/05/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Good discussion, but Fal that unemployment chart really isn't the accurate.



Could you provide a link to your source for that, and post a more accurate plot?  :shrug:

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Either way, one time Bernanke was being questioned by Congress and they asked him why REAL unemployment was so high and why wages remain so stagnant for the large majority of US workers- his answer was globalization and productivity (technology gains).  He honestly said he didn't have any solutions for this structural problem.



I agree that globalization contributes to unemployment.  But a republican appointee probably won't have an answer to stagnant wages; republicans tend not to support such things as minimum wages.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22483204 - 11/05/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Remember that time Obumble blamed high unemployment on atm's? And those fucking idiots reelected his dumb ass...



I DIDN'T hear about that!  Can you tell us more about it?  Maybe link to the story?


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22483255 - 11/05/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22483314 - 11/05/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ah, so he blamed unemployment on businesses being more efficient, by doing things such as providing ATMs instead of bank tellers.  He didn't blame it on ATMs.

Thanks for proving yourself wrong.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22483410 - 11/05/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Good discussion, but Fal that unemployment chart really isn't the accurate.



Could you provide a link to your source for that, and post a more accurate plot?  :shrug:

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Either way, one time Bernanke was being questioned by Congress and they asked him why REAL unemployment was so high and why wages remain so stagnant for the large majority of US workers- his answer was globalization and productivity (technology gains).  He honestly said he didn't have any solutions for this structural problem.



I agree that globalization contributes to unemployment.  But a republican appointee probably won't have an answer to stagnant wages; republicans tend not to support such things as minimum wages.




All of the Republican candidates suck, only Trump offers some sort of structural change, cancel the trade agreements and bring the work back home.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: amp244]
    #22483688 - 11/05/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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If it were to happen, then I suppose we would be in a pretty dire position. Hopefully by then, we will have discovered how to harness the ambient energy of the magnetic fields and have free energy. Then maybe we could just let robots do all of our work and focus on space exploration.

I think we are in agreeance in that its not happening anytime soon.




There is some evidence to suggest that AI may exist as early as 2045. Google is already devoting significant resources toward AI development.

Who knows what that means for society. Robot slaves? I don't know, but I feel that if we continue to let the wealthy separate themselves further and further from the rest of us, they may just do away with us when they don't need us anymore, and the technology (that only they have access to) exists to do so.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: qman]
    #22483716 - 11/05/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
Good discussion, but Fal that unemployment chart really isn't the accurate.



Could you provide a link to your source for that, and post a more accurate plot?  :shrug:

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Either way, one time Bernanke was being questioned by Congress and they asked him why REAL unemployment was so high and why wages remain so stagnant for the large majority of US workers- his answer was globalization and productivity (technology gains).  He honestly said he didn't have any solutions for this structural problem.



I agree that globalization contributes to unemployment.  But a republican appointee probably won't have an answer to stagnant wages; republicans tend not to support such things as minimum wages.




All of the Republican candidates suck, only Trump offers some sort of structural change, cancel the trade agreements and bring the work back home.




Rand Paul offers some interesting 'structural change'. I guess he's not really in the running anymore though lol...

I'm quite shocked that he fizzled so fast. Him and Ted Cruz. I guess the teabagger movement is dead in the water at this point.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22484603 - 11/06/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The election is still a year out, Cruz is very much still in the running, oh and have you heard he election results? Keep telling yourself cons are dead in the water, it'll make it that much easier to wipe out the rest of the libtards next year

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/563972dee4b0b24aee4812a0

Conservatives win in local elections, all politics is local, first the governorships and state houses, next the presidency!


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22484656 - 11/06/15 07:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't know, but I feel that if we continue to let the wealthy separate themselves further and further from the rest of us, they may just do away with us when they don't need us anymore, and the technology (that only they have access to) exists to do so.




I think as long as we continue under capitalism we'll have wage slavery.  The impulse to dominate other humans and the satisfaction gained by it can't be replaced by machines.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22485266 - 11/06/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't know, but I feel that if we continue to let the wealthy separate themselves further and further from the rest of us, they may just do away with us when they don't need us anymore, and the technology (that only they have access to) exists to do so.




I think as long as we continue under capitalism we'll have wage slavery.  The impulse to dominate other humans and the satisfaction gained by it can't be replaced by machines.




Maybe. Some people enjoy dominating by brutally killing...


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22485358 - 11/06/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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...have you heard he election results? Keep telling yourself cons are dead in the water, it'll make it that much easier to wipe out the rest of the libtards next year

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/563972dee4b0b24aee4812a0



You're excited about a Republican winning Kentucky?  Or that Ohio failed to make marijuana legal (why do conservatives want to limit freedom)?


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22485457 - 11/06/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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...have you heard he election results? Keep telling yourself cons are dead in the water, it'll make it that much easier to wipe out the rest of the libtards next year

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/563972dee4b0b24aee4812a0



You're excited about a Republican winning Kentucky?  Or that Ohio failed to make marijuana legal (why do conservatives want to limit freedom)?




Dude.., you're talking to Rush Limbaugh's #1 fan. He's totally partisan, regardless of the consequences lol


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22486396 - 11/06/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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...have you heard he election results? Keep telling yourself cons are dead in the water, it'll make it that much easier to wipe out the rest of the libtards next year

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/563972dee4b0b24aee4812a0



You're excited about a Republican winning Kentucky?  Or that Ohio failed to make marijuana legal (why do conservatives want to limit freedom)?




Calling Mr. Strawman!

Who cares about marijuana? There's bigger problems facing America...
As for limiting freedom, there is ONE party trying to control every facet of our lives, it's the socialists, now get on board or get the fuck out!


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22486418 - 11/06/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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...have you heard he election results? Keep telling yourself cons are dead in the water, it'll make it that much easier to wipe out the rest of the libtards next year

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/563972dee4b0b24aee4812a0



You're excited about a Republican winning Kentucky?  Or that Ohio failed to make marijuana legal (why do conservatives want to limit freedom)?




Calling Mr. Strawman!

Who cares about marijuana? There's bigger problems facing America...
As for limiting freedom, there is ONE party trying to control every facet of our lives, it's the socialists, now get on board or get the fuck out!




Bigger problems facing America!?! Not really. Marijuana is one of the biggest issues facing America.

We're talking MASSIVE tax revenue. MASSIVE imprisonment costs, and law enforcement costs. MASSIVE numbers of lives ruined. A guy in Louisiana doing 20 years for a pot brownie because it's his 3rd strike. MASSIVE defunding of criminal organizations.

We're talking MASSIVE industrial utility lost because hemp is illegal. MASSIVE healthcare costs that can be avoided. MASSIVE prescription drug addiction numbers that have been SIGNIFICANTLY reduced in states that legalize pot. MASSIVELY less incidence of DUI!

This is an ENORMOUS issue with MASSIVE implications.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22486533 - 11/06/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You're excited about a Republican winning Kentucky?  Or that Ohio failed to make marijuana legal (why do conservatives want to limit freedom)?




Calling Mr. Strawman!



So what about the election results excited you then?  What made it a big deal?

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Who cares about marijuana?



Anyone who cares about Government getting out of our private business.  And wooof also made a very good point about it.

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As for limiting freedom, there is ONE party trying to control every facet of our lives, it's the socialists



Limiting marijuana rights was a conservative victory.

Liberals only want to control corporations to prevent them from doing certain things (polluting, exploiting workers, etc), while conservatives want to control people's private lives (anti-marijuana, anti-gay marriage, anti-choice, anti-muslim, etc).

Get out of my private life, please.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22486618 - 11/06/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Conservatives have no fucking respect for personal Liberty, OR the Constitution.


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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22487099 - 11/06/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Here's a nice freudian slip.



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