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thoraxx
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Bill_Oreilly said: I wish someone could tell me how its possible that i added 150-200mg of dmt to naptha to evap over a week and now i have about double that in thick crystals as seen in the OP.
Just like the fluffy crystals fuck with your clients perception, so are you just imagining thicker xtals
and/or you got a wrong measurement somewhere
Otherwise you performed a miracle, or maybe dosing your friends gave you so much karma the cosmos blessed you with >100% efficiency
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Nature Boy
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Re: My DMT crystals [Re: thoraxx]
#22092166 - 08/14/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, it's no miracle. If you evaporate industrial (common everyday store-bought naphtha) you will find it leaves behind a nasty residue. That's why you ONLY freeze precipitate from naphtha and re-crystalize with Bestine.
The added weight (if there is any) came from residue from the naphtha...which is now deposited in/on the DMT. This is why I earlier commented "yuk." 
Bill, you can still recover perfectly clean DMT from the contaminated batch if you re-X with Bestine. If you don't have access to, or do not wish to pay the $$$ (it is expensive) for Bestine, I strongly recommend you re-dissolve the DMT in the smallest possible volume of naphtha (like 3 - 5cc's) and then freeze precipitate it back out, leaving the nastiness dissolved in the clean naphtha.
Hope that helps.
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Edited by Nature Boy (08/14/15 06:04 PM)
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Bill_Oreilly
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Nature Boy said: No, it's no miracle. If you evaporate industrial (common everyday store-bought naphtha) you will find it leaves behind a nasty residue. That's why you ONLY freeze precipitate from naphtha and re-crystalize with Bestine.
The added weight (if there is any) came from residue from the naphtha...which is now deposited in/on the DMT. This is why I earlier commented "yuk." 
Bill, you can still recover perfectly clean DMT from the contaminated batch if you re-X with Bestine. If you don't have access to, or do not wish to pay the $$$ (it is expensive) for Bestine, I strongly recommend you re-dissolve the DMT in the smallest possible volume of naphtha (like 3 - 5cc's) and then freeze precipitate it back out, leaving the nastiness dissolved in the clean naphtha.
Hope that helps.
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Thank you so much. It helps a lot.
I mean..i just don't know why you are talking as if my DMT is so gross. Its just a tint of yellow 
I don't mind yellow dmt...I actually almost prefer it because I feel as if It gives a more vibrant experience. Pure white DMT is almost so clean, it feels weaker.
Sort of like how I like to eat mushrooms instead of 4-acO-DMT.
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Nature Boy
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Not saying it is gross for any reason other than it now contains contamination with petroleum distillates. You want to vaporize those, go right ahead. I suggested an alternative to that. Feel free to ignore my solution. I'll go away now.
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Re: My DMT crystals [Re: Icon]
#22093168 - 08/15/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icon said: Dude if you read your teks and threads a bit more you wouldn't have pages of stupid questions. I get so sick of seeing you whine about your results when you don't follow instructions or bother reading. There's always some dmt leftover in the naphtha that doesn't freeze precipitate, especially if you use too much naphtha. You were supposed to just evaporate 80% of the solvent so the last bit is concentrated enough to precipitate out. But now you've evaporated it all so you've got the original dmt plus leftover DMT plus extra gunk.
It's like you just feign retardation to pad your 15,000 posts. None of this shit is complicated if you take your time learning it. Don't make everyone hold your hand and do it for you...
Quoted for truth.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Nature Boy said: Not saying it is gross for any reason other than it now contains contamination with petroleum distillates. You want to vaporize those, go right ahead. I suggested an alternative to that. Feel free to ignore my solution. I'll go away now.
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I was just wondering if you truly thought yellow dmt was so gross that you wouldn't dare use it.
how would you compare my dmt to ACRB goo?
Im not trying to dismiss what you say NB because I love hearing your words of wisdom..i was just wondering why you said that my dmt is "contaminated" because I don't want to be smoking contaminated product.
and to the above guy. before you start quoting people, you should actually read the whole thing. I used fresh naptha.
im sorry, ill stop "whining" and asking stupid questions. All I wanted was denser crystals(which now I have, thanks to you guys" and wondered how I got more weight than what I started with. I must have screwed up the weighing process.
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You have yellow DMT which has also been contaminated with petroleum distillates. You know how everyone gets mad at people who huff starter fluid? That's what you're going to be smoking.
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Re: My DMT crystals [Re: healing]
#22095301 - 08/15/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The point of the tek isnt to evap, it's to allow crystal to fall out naturally from super saturated solvent.
But even then, lots of people use evap teks and lots of people smoke evap DMT. Personal preference.
In the tem i was walking him through, you're only supposed to evap the naptha to a point of super saturation, then cap the tray and put a lid on it to let the crystal gently settle to a fat layer on the bottom of the dish
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Bill_Oreilly
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So if someone were to give you the DMT in the OP, you would refuse it because of "contamination?"
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natedawgnow
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That shit looked fine.
In the end every tek is slightly an evap tek cause you still have to evap the remaining naptha from your crystals after the precip.
It's the same thing if you dont re x with hexane every time you extract. WHich a lot of people don't do.
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Yellow DMT isnt dirty from chemicals. Historically most of the lab grade DMT had a yellow tint
Granted kitchen chemistry is never going to perfect but honestly I feel most of the teks around, if not done wicked sloppy or something produce a product clean enough to not give any health problems.
Put some of your solvent on a mirror and let it evap.. even hardware store naptha hardly leaves a trace, any trace is so minute its harmless.
You breath in more chemicals from painting a room or cleaning brushes than from the DMT.
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natedawgnow said: The point of the tek isnt to evap, it's to allow crystal to fall out naturally from super saturated solvent.
But even then, lots of people use evap teks and lots of people smoke evap DMT. Personal preference.
In the tem i was walking him through, you're only supposed to evap the naptha to a point of super saturation, then cap the tray and put a lid on it to let the crystal gently settle to a fat layer on the bottom of the dish
I dont even do this, I just put my pulls straight in the freeezer and it falls out (mine starts falling out at room temp), I never pre evap, I just put my pulls in a mason jar with lid.
I pour off the naptha after freeze and let it dry
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Bacchus
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Bill_Oreilly said: So if someone were to give you the DMT in the OP, you would refuse it because of "contamination?"
Absolutely. You said that it gained mass after dissolving and recrystallizing. I would never smoke that mystery mass.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: My DMT crystals [Re: Bacchus]
#22095950 - 08/15/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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^^ i easily could have weighed it wrong and the dmt doesnt smell like anything besides that sweet tryptomine scent.
I think your just being a pansy.
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mrbart4444
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Bill_Oreilly said: So if someone were to give you the DMT in the OP, you would refuse it because of "contamination?"
yea i evap my shit all the time when i feel like it fuck you mean it leaves nasty shit behind im sure youve consumed worse things in your life.
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Bill_Oreilly
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^^ exactly.
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Bill_Oreilly
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As long as your product doesnt taste or smell like solvent then i say youre fine
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Ok, so you weighed it wrong. I would never smoke DMT extracted by someone who can't use a scale.
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Nature Boy
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natedawgnow said: That shit looked fine.
In the end every tek is slightly an evap tek cause you still have to evap the remaining naptha from your crystals after the precip.
It's the same thing if you dont re x with hexane every time you extract. WHich a lot of people don't do.
Key word is SLIGHTLY. The residue from drying freeze-precipitated crystals with a volume of 0.00001cc naphtha on them and evaporating 10cc's of naphtha to recover your DMT is 10^6 times different. That's 1 million times different.
Oh...and looks mean NOTHING in this instance.
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Don't argue with him, dude. He never stops arguing and starts acting like a child, especially when he's wrong. It's super annoying, so just don't go there.
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