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Who buys into the weed strain name thing?
    #22083905 - 08/12/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just curious. Me personally, I've never understood why people eat that stuff up. I know if you grow it yourself it's a different story but most recreational pot smokers get their herb from some guy who gets it from some guys who gets it from some guy... yeah you know where I'm going with this. I just think it's kind of dumb when someone says something like, "I have some girl scout cookie nugs" or "I got some Jack Herer buds." Yeah, maybe it's some nice herb but how would someone even have a clue as to what strain they have. It seems like the same sort of thing when people say they have "fluff/needle point/lavender" LSD only people tend to believe the weed strain name shit more often. Am I missing something?

Probably the most retarded name I've ever heard someone call something is "Chocolate Haze". & here is a formula I created to use in order to make your ganja sound cool & "exotic":

__(insert name of fruit here)__ + Kush or Haze.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123] * 9
    #22083913 - 08/12/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

that's because you don't have accsess to dispensaries/growers therefore you have no idea wut the the hell youre talking about

THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE BRO:gc:


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123] * 6
    #22083915 - 08/12/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You obviously don't have friends in the medical cannabis industry.

I agree many people are full of shit and talk up BS, but the strains are real and there are real differences.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22083918 - 08/12/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

When you can get bud from growers and you know the strain for sure it's nice to know. Some highs are completely different; I don't like bud that make my eyes close..

Also, meeting growers is really easy... Round here at least.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22083920 - 08/12/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Some strains are distinctive. But I have also pondered this. Who knows what type of ganj you're getting if you buy from some dealer. Who cares as long as it get you stoned  :bigblunt:


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22083924 - 08/12/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

But yeah, if you live in a place where it's medical and there are dispensaries, chances are you're getting what you ask for.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22083936 - 08/12/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well I know that my dealer goes through a friend who has a medical card and he ends up getting the names from his friend sometimes, but not always. And he also has another dealer who drives to Cali and picks up a pretty hefty amount at once and buys it from the grower so the same goes for this as well Ill get a strain name sometimes but not all the time.

However I get what your saying everyone in my area likes to say "yo I got some fire sour diesel"
Apparently that's all anybody sells around here lol

My favorite that Ive had and knew the name of was purple urkle
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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22083940 - 08/12/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't put a lot of stock into it, but did follow it some. I'd always ask what my dealer had, mostly because I could buy a certain strain and then months later get the same experience (mostly the flavor, I was kind of a connoisseur with it). I'm definitely an indica person, and have smoked enough varieties regardless of name to tell them apart. So whether the name was actually what that strain was, was kind irrelevant. He only ever told me about strains he had that fit the indica profile, and I could always get the desired flavor characteristics by getting the "same strain".

Do I believe he had the strains locked down? Not really. In fact a lot of the strains I bought never had the flavor profile that strain review sites would almost unanimously agree on. All I know is that "blue cheese" always tasted like the first time I bought "blue cheese" (one of the very few to match the flavor profile listed everywhere) and northern lights always tasted like northern lights.

Did he make glaringly obvious mistakes? Yes. Green Crack to him was an indica. The very name suggests it's not, but if you look up strain info, you can find out it's not. His "green crack" was one of my favorites though. Nothing ever produced such a fucking couch lock on me.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22083943 - 08/12/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nope, I do not live in a location where marijuana is legal recreational-wise. But even then how can/why would someone take someone else's word for it unless you're physically going into a dispensary & picking it out yourself. In the LSD trade everyone tells people not to buy into the stuff people say that sell them it but with weed it seems more acceptable to listen to/believe the dealer.

@learning sponge, I think it's time for your next joint buddy. Woosah. Woosah.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22083944 - 08/12/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There are many strains of weed. Each strain of weed can be given a name. Thereafter that name refers to that strain of weed.

So yeah I "buy in" to strains having names.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22083946 - 08/12/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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learning sponge said:
that's because you don't have accsess to dispensaries/growers therefore you have no idea wut the the hell youre talking about

THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE BRO:gc:





anyone can slap a name on some weed and sell it to a dispensary, I mean how
exactly did any of these strains originally come about, someone crossed X
with Y and slapped a name on it but where did X and Y come from, right, the
same fucking plant. if they say it's an indica/sativa cross then hey, at least
that's better than saying they crossed 2 sativas and now it's an entirely
different sativa. it's this kind of retardation that has people selling
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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #22083954 - 08/12/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There are many strains of weed. Each strain of weed can be given a name. Thereafter that name refers to that strain of weed.

So yeah I "buy in" to strains having names.





so tell us, where did those strains originate


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22083957 - 08/12/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A buddy of mine who owned a dispensary freely admitted to changing the name of a strain that wasn't selling. Then all of a sudden with a new name the strain sold out and customers were coming back asking for the strain by name.

Another guy said 80% of the time most pot smokers don't even know what they're getting...the just like the name. It's more marketing than anything.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22083959 - 08/12/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They all originated from different places, not sure what you are getting at.

There are different types of tomatoes, peppers and lettuce too. Different varieties of all cultivated plants exist and by necessity each has names that refer specifically to them.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22083961 - 08/12/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

different weedstrains have different levels of cannabnoids. although outside of REALLY knowing the taste/texture/smell/ qqualities of individual strains, names are meaningless.


any chump can call his mexican brick weed hydroponic white widow og kush from the moon.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22083966 - 08/12/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Moonshoe said:
There are many strains of weed. Each strain of weed can be given a name. Thereafter that name refers to that strain of weed.

So yeah I "buy in" to strains having names.





so tell us, where did those strains originate



Are you familiar with the concept of plant hybridization?


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22083969 - 08/12/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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learning sponge said:
that's because you don't have accsess to dispensaries/growers therefore you have no idea wut the the hell youre talking about

THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE BRO:gc:





anyone can slap a name on some weed and sell it to a dispensary, I mean how
exactly did any of these strains originally come about, someone crossed X
with Y and slapped a name on it but where did X and Y come from, right, the
same fucking plant. if they say it's an indica/sativa cross then hey, at least
that's better than saying they crossed 2 sativas and now it's an entirely
different sativa. it's this kind of retardation that has people selling
'labradoodles' as pure bred dogs





Pretty deconstructive concept. Interesting. I'm sure there has to be some sort of reliance and professionalism, though, no?


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22083984 - 08/12/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also another question concerning Purple Haze & other older strains of herb. Those strains in today's market, are they vastly different from what they were when they first started out, just the name & a few characteristic traits stuck through the years? I ask because how does one keep those genetics or whatever it is, alive & the same after all that time?


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #22083987 - 08/12/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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They all originated from different places, not sure what you are getting at.

There are different types of tomatoes, peppers and lettuce too. Different varieties of all cultivated plants exist and by necessity each has names that refer specifically to them.




90% of the places they originated are simply different cities in the us over the last 20 years


so tell us, how does that compare with tomatoes which were selectively bred for thousands of years


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22084015 - 08/12/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There are many strains of weed. Each strain of weed can be given a name. Thereafter that name refers to that strain of weed.

So yeah I "buy in" to strains having names.





so tell us, where did those strains originate



Are you familiar with the concept of plant hybridization?





a hybrid is a cross of two different biological 'breeds' in the same family,
like making that labradoodle, this strain naming bullshit started in the late
60s and early 70s, people started naming shit like colombian gold, maui wowie
which are the origins of the majority of the shit being produced today, how did
3-4 'different strains' become more than a thousand with retarded name  like
sour blueberry and romulan diesel... it's a bunch of pot snob twattery


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22084021 - 08/12/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So because the hybridization happened more recently among a subculture that you aren't particularly fond of, they are less valid than say tomato or pepper hybrids?


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22084027 - 08/12/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So because the hybridization happened more recently among a subculture that you aren't particularly fond of, they are less valid than say tomato or pepper hybrids?






what again were they hybridizing? as I've asked, what were the origins of these strains


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    #22084041 - 08/12/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cannabis seeds strains and their genetic origins

Although hundreds of regional sub-varieties have been developed by skilled home and professional marijuana seeds breeders, the foundational genetic stock of traditional cannabis seeds strains is well-known and respected. We can think of these genetic precursors as the basic colour palette from which breeders mix and match to create limitless diversity.

Base origins and history of cannabis strains:

Columbian: also known as "Gold," was one of the original sativa imports that fueled the marijuana renaissance in North America during the 1960's. Ohhhh the sweet smell and taste with a mellow high that can’t be matched. Sativa all the way. I miss the melow taste, not to mention the buzz from Columbian Gold. $40.00 an ounce those days. I remember complaining that Gold is all anyone ever had :-)

Thai: sometimes known as Thai Sticks, because this Asian sativa variety produces loose clusters which are often woven onto sticks of bamboo or cannabis stems. Often called Budha Bud Thai stick and came wrapped on a stick with a wierd green or red thread. One hit wonder for sure. Hybridized and crossed Thai marijuana seeds are still available on the Dutch online market.

Jamaican: these mostly sativa plants are fast-growing and reputed to produce a stimulating high. Jamaican is probably the result of crosses of Indian ganja, which arrived with the Indian immigrants who came to the country. The term for marijuana in Jamaica is ganja, the same as in India. The traditional Jamaican term for the best weed is Kali, named for the Indian killer goddess.

Mexican: the war on drugs has severely afflicted Mexican indigenous production. Some of the best cannabis used to come from Mexico, but these days "Mexican Brown brickweed" has become synonymous with "schwag." Good Mexican is a Sativa offshoot, and even though its THC is degraded by bricking and shipping, it can be a potent and hardy plant when raised in captivity.

Cambodian and Chinese: these cannabis varieties are often problematic. In China, cannabis is cultivated for hemp fiber. In Cambodia, Vietnam and nearby countries, plants often tend to be hermaphroditic, which means that they develop male and female flowers and if left unchecked can fertilize themselves. Some breeders allege that using seeds from mostly-female hermaphroditic parents will produce seeds that favour the female gender. Unfortunately, such seeds also tend to be hermaphrodites, resulting in compromised floral development and resin production.

African: South Africa is becoming one of the world's top pot producers. Some experts allege that South African pot contains a deviant THC molecule which produces super-hallucinogenic highs. Durban Poison is a South African strain. The more northern parts of Africa also produce regional varieties; the further north you go, the more likely the strains are to be Indicas. Ghana is famous for its marijuana cultivation. Many african cannabis seeds, original strains and hybridized ones can be purchased online.

Afghani: These are some of the first seed types collected by European and American cannabis researchers during the 1960's hippie era. Afghani and Hindu Kush are indicas which grow fast, have huge leaves, and produce a skunky, mentally-crippling high. These two varieties have become very popular with many commercial growers. Still one of widely sold marijuana seeds strains online.

Hawaiian: Island strains, such as Maui Wowie, used to be readily available. Then the DEA started a massive air war against Hawaiian growers, and these varieties became scarce. They are now used mainly in crosses, and often lean toward the Sativa end of the spectrum.

Unless you buy from a seed bank or breeder, it's hard to know for sure which of the above varieties you have in your private marijuana seed stash. The size and shape of leaves, maturation characteristics, and the visual appearance of floral clusters are some of the most reliable ways to determine what lineage your seeds come from.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22084054 - 08/12/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22084066 - 08/12/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I get that there are different strains or what the fuck ever, and that they should be named

That said the names are corny as fuck :lol:

Personally I could give a fuck, as long as you give me some high grade, fine, then I'm good to go

Hell I'll even smoke fucking schwag, I'm not choosy when it comes to weed, because I barely light up these days anyway

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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123] * 2
    #22084075 - 08/12/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Even if we started with the exact same stock, in the future there would arise differences.
With each passing generation of seeds, the genetics change.  Be it to suit their environment or whatever else.

If you were working on different cultivars of mint, this idea would be the same and it wouldnt matter if the sprouted seeds were named a through z or whatever else. The point is they all have differences.  Think of all the seeds from 2 parents as brother and sister.
They all have the same genes (genotype) , but each individual seed has a different expression of these genes (phenotype).
Phenotype selection is picking what you want from these differences.
Its like the cute sister, tall brother, fat brother ect...

The more different the parents are, the more wild the phenotype differences that are displayed will be.
  To Pris's comment;
crossing 2 closely related sativas isnt redundant, because they will still produce different phenotypes in their offspring. 

The way to make a stable cross is with cloning and self x self breeding.

  Many breeders make blind crosses and sell them all without phenotype selection involved whatsoever, but will instead explain some known possibilities in the seeds involving differences in growth parameter, and flavor.

Point:
There's a definite reason for calling one apple Mcintosh and another golden delicious , while they are both still apples. 

Its cool being able to hand someone all my recent hard work in a single seed....
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    #22084100 - 08/13/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:girlofdisapproval:
I used to be 100% okay with Schwagg, I know you're from Texas so you're almost definitely getting exactly what Schwagg is to me. I never wanted or intended to be an elitist, but after spending a while on the good shit, and getting a bit of Schwagg, I just couldn't take it. It tasted revolting, it took a full blunt to get you legitimately high, the "crash" came after only an hour or so, and then you got headaches. It'a also a huge fucking rip off. Ever weighed the seeds/stems after cleaning an oz? That's like a 1/4 (or more) of the weight gone right off the bat.

Litereally the only thing it has going for it (because being cheap doesn't really make a fuck when you have to smoke tons more and it just tastes like shit) was the creeper. My god I love creeper weed, and I have only ever seen it in Schwagg. You can sit there and smoke a whole blunt and feel 100% sober. Then like 10 minutes later it hits you like a freight train. You go from sober to more or less, incapcitation almost instantly. You're sitting there smoking, and every hit you take you feel nothing then you start to get pissed because you got ripped off, and suddnely, BAM!.

Just a whole different experience to basically go from stone cold sober to way too fucked up in a span of a couple of seconds.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22084125 - 08/13/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oaxaca is a famous strain coming out of Mexico, it's a landrace strain that originates in the Oaxacan region within mexico.

Breeders were using it in a lot of their projects quite a number of years ago.

I am sure some schwag has good genetics but I think its becoming more and more rare.

I can't remember the last time I've seen schwag


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    #22084127 - 08/13/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Pretty much the only times I've seen shwag in the last 15 years or so have been in other countries.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22084317 - 08/13/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I dont miss the brick... was everywhere when I was a kid.
They used to have ounces so compacted they were smaller than a deck of cards...


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22084347 - 08/13/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You can sit there and smoke a whole blunt and feel 100% sober. Then like 10 minutes later it hits you like a freight train. You go from sober to more or less, incapcitation almost instantly.



Actually I know the perfect way to explain this effect. It's like that scene in Wolf of Walstreet where he's talking to his lawyer or whoever and the old lemons he took suddenly whoop his ass.



You keep taking more and more because it just ain't working, and then suddenly, and randomly you are just totally wasted. :bigyesnod: God I miss that shit.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22084445 - 08/13/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you for posting those descriptions. That was pretty cool to read. Years ago, I'm pretty darn sure I bought some hermaphrodite weed. It looked pretty unusual. I honestly can't remember if it was any good though.

Ahhh, the shwag. I used to actually like smoking brick weed because you could smoke dooby after dooby in a sitting & listen to music for hours. Now I really don't care for it but I'd still smoke it if that was my only option. A zip for $50, give or take. It was definitely low quality weed but the quality of it varied & every so often you could really luck out-sometimes you'd get some REALLY shitty nasty dark green stuff but sometimes you'd get some fairly light green "mids" looking stuff. I just remember the process of sorting out the stems & seeds was kind of a chore because of just how many there were in a single bud! Sheesh!


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    #22084475 - 08/13/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Seeds aren't a problem. All you have to do is take whatever ground bud you have, put it on a large flat, rigid surface (I had a chessboard like this I used for all "processing" ) and til it about 30 degrees. with everything at the high point. Then use a card to scoop some up and then "sift" it (shake the card back and fourth as you let if fall onto the board near the top). Weed would mostly stay where it landed, seeds would roll down and be collected at the bottom. Once the bud was clean, just give the seed pile a second pass.

Took about a minute max maybe. I never learned any trick for dealing with all the stems though. It was a tedious process unless you wanted to be wasteful. I never did. Destemming an oz of weed usually took me about half an hour or more. With schwagg I mostly rolled, so getting all OCD on getting the stems out was kind of a must. Shit was time consuming as hell.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22084755 - 08/13/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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that's because you don't have accsess to dispensaries/growers therefore you have no idea wut the the hell youre talking about

THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE BRO:gc:




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    #22084760 - 08/13/15 03:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I get my weed directly from a grower who sells his stuff to pot clubs... when he says weed is a certain strain, it is definitely that strain, and the different strains have different aromas and highs. Street dealers try to play it off like their schwaggy intermixable shit is of the same caliber but it's not. So yeah I buy into it.


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    #22084780 - 08/13/15 04:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid: strains are definitely real when you bread the right genetics together


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22084816 - 08/13/15 04:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i know what op means, i got a dealer that is like that and make up name of the top.

like some really basic m-39 and he calls it fruity tuty :lolsy: he knows the grower and everything hes just lying to make more cash

but yea overall people on here are right, hybridation and multiple crossing made a vast range of strains. and they are really different.

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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22084823 - 08/13/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Seeds aren't a problem. All you have to do is take whatever ground bud you have, put it on a large flat, rigid surface (I had a chessboard like this I used for all "processing" ) and til it about 30 degrees. with everything at the high point. Then use a card to scoop some up and then "sift" it (shake the card back and fourth as you let if fall onto the board near the top). Weed would mostly stay where it landed, seeds would roll down and be collected at the bottom. Once the bud was clean, just give the seed pile a second pass.

Took about a minute max maybe. I never learned any trick for dealing with all the stems though. It was a tedious process unless you wanted to be wasteful. I never did. Destemming an oz of weed usually took me about half an hour or more. With schwagg I mostly rolled, so getting all OCD on getting the stems out was kind of a must. Shit was time consuming as hell.





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    #22085006 - 08/13/15 06:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There are buds for uppers and buds for downs, buds for pain and buds for frowns. Theres buds for hungers and buds for diseases, Theres a bud for basically any thinkable reason.For a long ass night having fun with some friends, or tricking your mom into eating brownies again. Theres buds for stress, trauma and epilepsy. They even have pipes designed just for lefties. Theres all kinds of buds and strains you see, so stop with the drama and explore them with me...


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    #22085208 - 08/13/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I sure as fuck don't. Even in medical states i don't see how it can be all that reliable, if theres really no regulation. Not to mention you can have two nugs from the same plant give different effects. Really doesn't make sense to me. As far as im concerned the only difference in strains is sativa and indica, and the rest is perceived differences that more or less rely on the person's genetics than the actual plants.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #22085261 - 08/13/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fact. Blueberry tastes radically different from something like Sour Diesel. I can pick out different strains blindly from a lineup, and have on several occasions. Blue Dream for example is one I can pick out from a mile away. I love the history of genetics and the best strains can be traces back from landraces, which are indigenous strains that are found in the wild all over the world.


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    #22085275 - 08/13/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My friend can do that too like some fucking cannabis rain man


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22085283 - 08/13/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll admit that if you "smoke" the weed, the flavor isn't really all that unique, at least to me. I vaporize all my bud, so the flavor is radically different with every strain. All the unique flavors can be had by vaporizing.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22085322 - 08/13/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My big thing lately is I like weed that is "fresh" as in clearly hasn't been compressed in the vacuum seal process or otherwise abused.  Airy buds and nice trichromes y'know?  I don't like to pay a premium based on name, but if it is ethically treated and I can tell I'll pay more.

I mostly ignore the names.  I get alot of them, and some of them I'll just laugh in the dudes face because the names are ridiculous.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22085333 - 08/13/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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that's because you don't have accsess to dispensaries/growers therefore you have no idea wut the the hell youre talking about

THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE BRO:gc:





anyone can slap a name on some weed and sell it to a dispensary, I mean how
exactly did any of these strains originally come about, someone crossed X
with Y and slapped a name on it but where did X and Y come from, right, the
same fucking plant. if they say it's an indica/sativa cross then hey, at least
that's better than saying they crossed 2 sativas and now it's an entirely
different sativa. it's this kind of retardation that has people selling
'labradoodles' as pure bred dogs





Weed strains come from genetic mutation of other strains, and then growing the mutated clones/seeds.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22085492 - 08/13/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Cannabis seeds strains and their genetic origins

Although hundreds of regional sub-varieties have been developed by skilled home and professional marijuana seeds breeders, the foundational genetic stock of traditional cannabis seeds strains is well-known and respected. We can think of these genetic precursors as the basic colour palette from which breeders mix and match to create limitless diversity.

Base origins and history of cannabis strains:

Columbian: also known as "Gold," was one of the original sativa imports that fueled the marijuana renaissance in North America during the 1960's. Ohhhh the sweet smell and taste with a mellow high that can’t be matched. Sativa all the way. I miss the melow taste, not to mention the buzz from Columbian Gold. $40.00 an ounce those days. I remember complaining that Gold is all anyone ever had :-)

Thai: sometimes known as Thai Sticks, because this Asian sativa variety produces loose clusters which are often woven onto sticks of bamboo or cannabis stems. Often called Budha Bud Thai stick and came wrapped on a stick with a wierd green or red thread. One hit wonder for sure. Hybridized and crossed Thai marijuana seeds are still available on the Dutch online market.

Jamaican: these mostly sativa plants are fast-growing and reputed to produce a stimulating high. Jamaican is probably the result of crosses of Indian ganja, which arrived with the Indian immigrants who came to the country. The term for marijuana in Jamaica is ganja, the same as in India. The traditional Jamaican term for the best weed is Kali, named for the Indian killer goddess.

Mexican: the war on drugs has severely afflicted Mexican indigenous production. Some of the best cannabis used to come from Mexico, but these days "Mexican Brown brickweed" has become synonymous with "schwag." Good Mexican is a Sativa offshoot, and even though its THC is degraded by bricking and shipping, it can be a potent and hardy plant when raised in captivity.

Cambodian and Chinese: these cannabis varieties are often problematic. In China, cannabis is cultivated for hemp fiber. In Cambodia, Vietnam and nearby countries, plants often tend to be hermaphroditic, which means that they develop male and female flowers and if left unchecked can fertilize themselves. Some breeders allege that using seeds from mostly-female hermaphroditic parents will produce seeds that favour the female gender. Unfortunately, such seeds also tend to be hermaphrodites, resulting in compromised floral development and resin production.

African: South Africa is becoming one of the world's top pot producers. Some experts allege that South African pot contains a deviant THC molecule which produces super-hallucinogenic highs. Durban Poison is a South African strain. The more northern parts of Africa also produce regional varieties; the further north you go, the more likely the strains are to be Indicas. Ghana is famous for its marijuana cultivation. Many african cannabis seeds, original strains and hybridized ones can be purchased online.

Afghani: These are some of the first seed types collected by European and American cannabis researchers during the 1960's hippie era. Afghani and Hindu Kush are indicas which grow fast, have huge leaves, and produce a skunky, mentally-crippling high. These two varieties have become very popular with many commercial growers. Still one of widely sold marijuana seeds strains online.

Hawaiian: Island strains, such as Maui Wowie, used to be readily available. Then the DEA started a massive air war against Hawaiian growers, and these varieties became scarce. They are now used mainly in crosses, and often lean toward the Sativa end of the spectrum.

Unless you buy from a seed bank or breeder, it's hard to know for sure which of the above varieties you have in your private marijuana seed stash. The size and shape of leaves, maturation characteristics, and the visual appearance of floral clusters are some of the most reliable ways to determine what lineage your seeds come from.





so now we know that there were 8 strains that weed originated from and all this
other shit is contrived horse shit because crossing hawaiian with columbian
wouldnt produce 8000 strains of weed even though that's how these breeders are
doing it. breeder a crosses these two and produces brand X while breeder b
crosses these two and calls it brand Y


now, for the record, cambodian, afghani and thai are all the same


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22085580 - 08/13/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

But if you put like 200 strains of weed on a table in front of you you could distinguish between them in terms of appearance, smell, potency, cannibinoid composition, taste, color etc, not to mention growing characteristics, speed to maturation, what kind of environments they do well in, etc etc.

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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22085584 - 08/13/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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But if you put like 200 strains of weed on a table in front of you you could distinguish between them in terms of appearance, smell, potency, cannibinoid composition, taste, color etc, not to mention growing characteristics, speed to maturation, what kind of environments they do well in, etc etc.

So...

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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22085588 - 08/13/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I get the strain stuff and its cool and whatever.

What i hate is in my non medical state everyone and their brother will go buy "frazzle dazzle sour diezel" before buying the non name dank ass shit. Even if the no name is better they just like to be like "brah im smoking super duper skunk junk"....

I have no source and dont care to look for one but i recall reading an article that said strains dont matter that you can go get the same strain from two different dispensaries and they will be completely different.


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    #22085607 - 08/13/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

pris obv smokes shitty weed i mean cannabis breeding is fucking redic i mean fucking blue nugget that taste like a fucking blueberry i dont even fucking know how itas possible. i mean a strain usually designates a group with a noticeable morphological deviation, Not sure how you guys arent seeing noticable differances in strains and even been able to trace liniages of hybrids baised on flavors and aromoas and such.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #22086303 - 08/13/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I sure as fuck don't. Even in medical states i don't see how it can be all that reliable, if theres really no regulation. Not to mention you can have two nugs from the same plant give different effects. Really doesn't make sense to me. As far as im concerned the only difference in strains is sativa and indica, and the rest is perceived differences that more or less rely on the person's genetics than the actual plants.




The only people who don't "buy into" weed strains are people who haven't actually had any experience with premium buds that actually are of any given strain. Trust me, dedicated growers don't need regulations to be able to provide these. As if the government would know anything about good weed in the first place. :curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22086381 - 08/13/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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But if you put like 200 strains of weed on a table in front of you you could distinguish between them in terms of appearance, smell, potency, cannibinoid composition, taste, color etc, not to mention growing characteristics, speed to maturation, what kind of environments they do well in, etc etc.

So...

:shrug:





no but i could tell you that one is prettier than some of the others






This debate reminds me of heirloom tomatoes.  How several decades back in Itally, when tomato plants were moved with the family, and planted in a different region, with different climate, soil ph, and so on, how the plants addapted and changed to strive in the new area.  fast forward several decades and now even tho those same tomato plants originated from the same source, they all have unique genetic traits.

Take a south american marijuana plant, take a genetic test to see what it looks like. Then grow it in a completely different agriculture zone, keep it going for several years until it stabilizes in its new environment, and then do a genetic test.  I would really be curious to see the difference from the first test.    Im a bit too lazy to see if these tests have already been done, Im just posting from work quickly. just putting this idea out there.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22086386 - 08/13/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I sure as fuck don't. Even in medical states i don't see how it can be all that reliable, if theres really no regulation. Not to mention you can have two nugs from the same plant give different effects. Really doesn't make sense to me. As far as im concerned the only difference in strains is sativa and indica, and the rest is perceived differences that more or less rely on the person's genetics than the actual plants.




The only people who don't "buy into" weed strains are people who haven't actually had any experience with premium buds that actually are of any given strain. Trust me, dedicated growers don't need regulations to be able to provide these. As if the government would know anything about good weed in the first place. :curbyourenthusiasm:




I am experienced and I don't buy into it one single bit. Of course there is varieties that can be cultivated for specific characteristics by one grower over the course of many generations of a land strain. There is some accountability in that case, a very isolated genetic pool.

However I absolutely think identifying a type of high or flavor profile from just the name alone is bullshit. I even started a thread a while back about this subject after I saw a presentation by an organic chemist Jeffrey C. Rhaber who runs the most sophisticated cannabis testing facility in the country.

He's done an analysis of strains submitted by multiple growers with the same name and plotted them according to their various ratios of terpenoids and cannabinoids. The results were all across the map, with no correlation whatsoever between the submitted name and the psychoactive chemical content.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22086387 - 08/13/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't live in a med state so generally I don't buy into the name craze. My newest dealer is pretty on point with his strains though. I guess it just really depends.


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    #22086405 - 08/13/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

u guys need step ur shit up i havent lived in a medi state basically my whole life and i could tell you names of certain strains just off smell people arent jus pulling these names outta their ass unless ur dealer is a jackass


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    #22086440 - 08/13/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There are vastly dramatic differences between strains. It's not even remotely like cubes where a strain is a strain is a strain and some minute differences between each.
Strain certainly isn't everything.. as growing conditions / curing process and more play a large part in the end product.
But all things being equal, there can be some pretty dramatic differences between strains alone in terms of terpenes, THC/CBD ratio, smell, appearance, type of high, etc.
Yes the same strains can vary wildly grown in different areas and by different growers, but the base characteristics are almost always there. You have the same grower producing the same strains under the same ideal conditions, it's going to be pretty damn consistent.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomism]
    #22086468 - 08/13/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There are vastly dramatic differences between strains. It's not even remotely like cubes where a strain is a strain is a strain and some minute differences between each.




It is exactly the same, strain names mean nothing quantitatively because there is 0 regulation.


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    #22086479 - 08/13/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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u guys need step ur shit up i havent lived in a medi state basically my whole life and i could tell you names of certain strains just off smell people arent jus pulling these names outta their ass unless ur dealer is a jackass



I'm trying bruh. I just know I get really good bud :shrug: I mean I was in Denver all weekend and I gotta say I definitely get the same quality of bud and for way cheaper. Fuck that $20 a gram bullshit


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Cannabis seeds strains and their genetic origins

Although hundreds of regional sub-varieties have been developed by skilled home and professional marijuana seeds breeders, the foundational genetic stock of traditional cannabis seeds strains is well-known and respected. We can think of these genetic precursors as the basic colour palette from which breeders mix and match to create limitless diversity.

Base origins and history of cannabis strains:

Columbian: also known as "Gold," was one of the original sativa imports that fueled the marijuana renaissance in North America during the 1960's. Ohhhh the sweet smell and taste with a mellow high that can’t be matched. Sativa all the way. I miss the melow taste, not to mention the buzz from Columbian Gold. $40.00 an ounce those days. I remember complaining that Gold is all anyone ever had :-)

Thai: sometimes known as Thai Sticks, because this Asian sativa variety produces loose clusters which are often woven onto sticks of bamboo or cannabis stems. Often called Budha Bud Thai stick and came wrapped on a stick with a wierd green or red thread. One hit wonder for sure. Hybridized and crossed Thai marijuana seeds are still available on the Dutch online market.

Jamaican: these mostly sativa plants are fast-growing and reputed to produce a stimulating high. Jamaican is probably the result of crosses of Indian ganja, which arrived with the Indian immigrants who came to the country. The term for marijuana in Jamaica is ganja, the same as in India. The traditional Jamaican term for the best weed is Kali, named for the Indian killer goddess.

Mexican: the war on drugs has severely afflicted Mexican indigenous production. Some of the best cannabis used to come from Mexico, but these days "Mexican Brown brickweed" has become synonymous with "schwag." Good Mexican is a Sativa offshoot, and even though its THC is degraded by bricking and shipping, it can be a potent and hardy plant when raised in captivity.

Cambodian and Chinese: these cannabis varieties are often problematic. In China, cannabis is cultivated for hemp fiber. In Cambodia, Vietnam and nearby countries, plants often tend to be hermaphroditic, which means that they develop male and female flowers and if left unchecked can fertilize themselves. Some breeders allege that using seeds from mostly-female hermaphroditic parents will produce seeds that favour the female gender. Unfortunately, such seeds also tend to be hermaphrodites, resulting in compromised floral development and resin production.

African: South Africa is becoming one of the world's top pot producers. Some experts allege that South African pot contains a deviant THC molecule which produces super-hallucinogenic highs. Durban Poison is a South African strain. The more northern parts of Africa also produce regional varieties; the further north you go, the more likely the strains are to be Indicas. Ghana is famous for its marijuana cultivation. Many african cannabis seeds, original strains and hybridized ones can be purchased online.

Afghani: These are some of the first seed types collected by European and American cannabis researchers during the 1960's hippie era. Afghani and Hindu Kush are indicas which grow fast, have huge leaves, and produce a skunky, mentally-crippling high. These two varieties have become very popular with many commercial growers. Still one of widely sold marijuana seeds strains online.

Hawaiian: Island strains, such as Maui Wowie, used to be readily available. Then the DEA started a massive air war against Hawaiian growers, and these varieties became scarce. They are now used mainly in crosses, and often lean toward the Sativa end of the spectrum.

Unless you buy from a seed bank or breeder, it's hard to know for sure which of the above varieties you have in your private marijuana seed stash. The size and shape of leaves, maturation characteristics, and the visual appearance of floral clusters are some of the most reliable ways to determine what lineage your seeds come from.





so now we know that there were 8 strains that weed originated from and all this
other shit is contrived horse shit because crossing hawaiian with columbian
wouldnt produce 8000 strains of weed even though that's how these breeders are
doing it. breeder a crosses these two and produces brand X while breeder b
crosses these two and calls it brand Y


now, for the record, cambodian, afghani and thai are all the same




Actually those 3 are quite unique from eachother. Different species even...

Also, a single cross could produce (8,000) variants as ive said.  Every seed produced by a cross is unique the way brothers andd sisters are from eachother.  Same genes, different expressions of those genes. The more diverse the parents are, the more juxtaposed the possible outcomes may arise.
  I am related to my brother but I am unique from him in many ways.  You dont have to study cannabis to grasp the genetic idea.
Even with self seeding, the plants change every year and pass their new enetic changes into the new seeds. 

If things are different, why name them as if they are the same??

Even without ever crossing, plants change themselves over time. Especially through seeds, but even with perrenials where the same rhizome overwinters.
  Take the same stock of hops, break it up into the opposing corners or the country, and check them in 10 years. They will all display unique qualities from adaptations to their environment.

Cascade hops and Sterling hops are both thre same exact species.
One smells like oranges, and the other, shaving cream. Worth noting their individuality?
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    #22086512 - 08/13/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There are buds for uppers and buds for downs, buds for pain and buds for frowns. Theres buds for hungers and buds for diseases, Theres a bud for basically any thinkable reason.For a long ass night having fun with some friends, or tricking your mom into eating brownies again. Theres buds for stress, trauma and epilepsy. They even have pipes designed just for lefties. Theres all kinds of buds and strains you see, so stop with the drama and explore them with me...





doctor suess pass that shit yo!


one thing people often forget is the same clones can produce radically different final products just from how they were grown.

i do believe in the strains, as i have probably smoked 250+ different ones easy in the last 8 years.


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    #22086531 - 08/13/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yo, I just spit some science at ya'll and you eat up some rhymes?

Ok, fine by me. I presented the evidence it's not my job for anyone to believe it.


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    #22086532 - 08/13/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There are vastly dramatic differences between strains. It's not even remotely like cubes where a strain is a strain is a strain and some minute differences between each.




It is exactly the same, strain names mean nothing quantitatively because there is 0 regulation.




No, it's really not the same. Psilocybin mushroom growing is not a multi billion dollar industry.
Yes there can be large differences in final product due to growing conditions/curing/generational changes etc.
But strains like Sour D will never be Green Crack or Trainwreck.
High CBD strains like Charlotte's Web or Harlequin have virtually no THC and no psychoactive effects whatsoever.
Whatchu talking 'bout willis

Yes if there was better regulation there would be better consistency between growers. But as I said before.. all things being considered equal.. and even at default in its current state.. there are dramatic differences between strains.


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    #22086551 - 08/13/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yo, I just spit some science at ya'll and you eat up some rhymes?

Ok, fine by me. I presented the evidence it's not my job for anyone to believe it.




You mean this? Did your friend publish any peer-reviewed papers from this evidence, or at least write down the methodology and track the results somewhere? Have these results been reproduced?

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    #22086552 - 08/13/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yo, I just spit some science at ya'll and you eat up some rhymes?

Ok, fine by me. I presented the evidence it's not my job for anyone to believe it.





im not disagreeing that the names change to be trendy and sell better but i do disagree that there is not the variety that is advertised.

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    #22086553 - 08/13/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm talking about that despite how much money is in that industry very little of it is going to high quality testing facilities.

Most places still use GC/MS, which is highly ineffective to measure most of the terpenoid and cannabinoid content due to the low BP of those chemicals.

It has the potential for some regulation, but no one is interested in that. It's too sciency for most growers taste, that money can just be pooled into more financially gratifying measures.


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    #22086567 - 08/13/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

All I know is the Blue Dream from my grower is always spot the fuck on.


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    #22086577 - 08/13/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yo, I just spit some science at ya'll and you eat up some rhymes?

Ok, fine by me. I presented the evidence it's not my job for anyone to believe it.




You mean this? Did your friend publish any peer-reviewed papers from this evidence, or at least write down the methodology and track the results somewhere? Have these results been reproduced?

My verdict: no science has been presented. :courtjudge:




Yes he has published peer-reviewed papers and yes he writes down his methodology just like any credible scientist.

Using the repeatable card is pretty weak, do you provide multiple studies of the same publication when you try to validate your arguments?

Also there are no cannabis testing facilities that have the type of equipment necessary to conduct the research that he is doing so far.

His paper on Strains hasn't been published yet because he is still collecting data, here is the presentation he used at the lecture I attended. http://humboldt-dspace.calstate.edu/bitstream/handle/2148/1628/HIIMR_Raber_video.html?sequence=5


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    #22086579 - 08/13/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeh i dont give a fuck what some fuckhe fucking guy did in his cannabis lab test or whatever the fuck theres clearly established strains jus because any jabroni grows it into all fucking wierd doesnt mean shit


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    #22086588 - 08/13/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Prime example of why stereotypical stoners aren't taken seriously.
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    #22086589 - 08/13/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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All I know is the Blue Dream from my grower is always spot the fuck on.




That was my mainstay for years. That was a really well-rounded strain and pretty hard to get tired of. Lately I've been on the Jilly Bean train, though that one tends to give me racing thoughts at times

Yukon, all I know is that my dealer's strains are perfectly consistent and definitely not interchangeable.


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    #22086602 - 08/13/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I get where you're coming from, sure consistency can lead you to believe what you're getting is the real deal.

However we shouldn't be making conclusions on what effects are behind a strain name from that alone, also we need to dissolve the myth that sativa and indica have different highs.

These are just things that we have to make changes about in order to be taken seriously by mainstream culture in general to further the social acceptability of a large portion of the populations therapeutic/medical activities.


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    #22086608 - 08/13/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sativa and indica have... the same high?

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    #22086623 - 08/13/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Typical reaction of someone who is talking outta thier ass:
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Prime example of why stereotypical stoners aren't taken seriously.
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    #22086624 - 08/13/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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yeh i dont give a fuck what some fuckhe fucking guy did in his cannabis lab test or whatever the fuck theres clearly established strains jus because any jabroni grows it into all fucking wierd doesnt mean shit



:lol: this made me laugh

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:dumbass: so you're telling me you've never had different experiences from grandaddy purp as opposed to something like green crack?


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    #22086625 - 08/13/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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dissolve the myth that sativa and indica have different highs.





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dissolve the myth that sativa and indica have different highs.





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    #22086641 - 08/13/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Im not sure that indica or sativa dominate strains have consistant enough effects to say that as a rule sativa ismore uplifting or whatever but i would def say theres noticable diffrances betewwn strains.


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    #22086646 - 08/13/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

But some scientist dude who hasn't published his paper yet says that's bullshit. So everything you know is a lie.


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He runs the only organic lab in the country so he must be legit


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    #22086657 - 08/13/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

the best part was the pharmacist at my local dispensary telling me that the oil was so black because of how much thc was in it. The fucking guy doesnt have a clue about anything i dont even think he smokes weed.


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    #22086682 - 08/13/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The people making the oil are the "scientist" that my state has contracted to produce oil and hash. $60 for a half gram of not even full melt!

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    #22086691 - 08/13/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yep I said it, no difference whatsoever. It's a morphological difference, not a genetically based one that would determine chemical content.

So you're all saying that years of unverifiable anecdotal evidence beats the only feasibly conducted scientific study so far?  :ohyeahdefinitely:

I believed the indica vs. sativa myth until I started making friends with growers and seeing their plants grow from seedling to harvest.

I managed to feel extreme couchlock from an obviously spindly sativa and a buzzy hyper high from a broad-leaved indica.

Please read into what I say and post before making such reactionary statements with no grounding in science.


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    #22086693 - 08/13/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't because I rarely see two strains people claim looking similar. Even the medical seed didn't look right from the local dispensary. No regulation, it doesn't mean anything


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    #22086696 - 08/13/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't give a shit about your friend's presentation until it's been peer reviewed.


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    #22086702 - 08/13/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also I'd like to clarify, not all weed has the same high if that's what you interpreted from that statement.


The variation is just too great regardless of it being sativa or indica.


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    #22086712 - 08/13/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't give a shit about your friend's presentation until it's been peer reviewed.




Yeah, because I know the guy personally. :rolleyes:

Please be reasonable, I've seen you take logical steps to deconstruct an argument before so there is no need to take it as a personal attack against your beliefs.

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    #22086773 - 08/13/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not taking it personally, I just have enough experience with weed strains being distinct and distinguishable that I know the thrust of the presentation is wrong. I would need airtight evidence, peer-reviewed and reproduced, to believe that I am just imagining things when I can reliably name a strain based on its smell or high.

My take on the research you're telling me about is that the skill of the growers whose buds were tested varied widely.


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    #22086851 - 08/13/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nope, not even close. I was in the same boat as you until I was willing to accept the fact that there is solid evidence against what I experienced.

Instead of dismissing it because it is contrary to what I believe, I seriously considered it and read into the evidence further.

If you at least read the evidence instead of taking the easy way out by just saying "it's not what I experienced" then I could have a constructive dialogue with you on the topic.


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    #22086890 - 08/13/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Read what? All I see is a video. His paper was supposed to be published spring of 2014.. what happened?
I will agree, that because of difference in growers and growing conditions.. the same strains can have different final products, as I have already stated several times in this thread.
But to make the claim that all strain names are just bullshit... well.. that's bullshit.
And there are no differences between sativas and indicas?
I should just take your word on it because of your anecdotal evidence? Which, not two sentences prior to making that statement you were decrying unverifiable anecdotal evidence?

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So you're all saying that years of unverifiable anecdotal evidence beats the only feasibly conducted scientific study so far?  :ohyeahdefinitely:

I believed the indica vs. sativa myth until I started making friends with growers and seeing their plants grow from seedling to harvest.

I managed to feel extreme couchlock from an obviously spindly sativa and a buzzy hyper high from a broad-leaved indica.

Please read into what I say and post before making such reactionary statements with no grounding in science.




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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #22086910 - 08/13/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Nope, not even close. I was in the same boat as you until I was willing to accept the fact that there is solid evidence against what I experienced.

Instead of dismissing it because it is contrary to what I believe, I seriously considered it and read into the evidence further.

If you at least read the evidence instead of taking the easy way out by just saying "it's not what I experienced" then I could have a constructive dialogue with you on the topic.




By "constructive dialogue" do you mean one that results in me realizing that I've been deluding myself along with everybody who professionally cultivates marijuana in observing that there is a consistent chemical and qualitative difference between sativa and indica?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and that is one extra extraordinary claim you're making.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22086961 - 08/13/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Pretty much the only times I've seen shwag in the last 15 years or so have been in other countries.





It's pretty common in Tx.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomism]
    #22086963 - 08/13/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Read what? All I see is a video. His paper was supposed to be published spring of 2014.. what happened?
I will agree, that because of difference in growers and growing conditions.. the same strains can have different final products, as I have already stated several times in this thread.
But to make the claim that all strain names are just bullshit... well.. that's bullshit.
And there are no differences between sativas and indicas? I should just take your word on it because of your anecdotal evidence?




As I emphasized earlier, he is still collecting data on this paper. There are hundreds of submissions that he receives every month of different samples that have to be processed.

This is just the evidence so far, it leads me to have a reasonable doubt that strain names have any meaning in terms of an expected effect.

I need to do a bit more digging on the botany publications about the difference between indica and sativa species, but I'm not saying take my word for it from anecdotal evidence.

Most folks I know who strongly believe in the indica/sativa difference also have no experience in seeing where their product comes from directly.

I know it's hard to believe, but I'm merely pointing out the evidence that is available so far.

We are a long way from having sufficient research into this field, but that's not to say that there is no validity in pursuing that research further.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22087035 - 08/13/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Nope, not even close. I was in the same boat as you until I was willing to accept the fact that there is solid evidence against what I experienced.

Instead of dismissing it because it is contrary to what I believe, I seriously considered it and read into the evidence further.

If you at least read the evidence instead of taking the easy way out by just saying "it's not what I experienced" then I could have a constructive dialogue with you on the topic.




By "constructive dialogue" do you mean one that results in me realizing that I've been deluding myself along with everybody who professionally cultivates marijuana in observing that there is a consistent chemical and qualitative difference between sativa and indica?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and that is one extra extraordinary claim you're making.




Not in the least, don't twist my words. I just want you to actually look into his research and not dismiss it without giving it any consideration.

Doesn't mean you have to agree with me, just means you should constructively disagree with me.

Qualitative differences are a result of quantitative measurements, your central nervous system is not an LC/MS.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #22087049 - 08/13/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree, we need all the research we can get. But you can't go making bold claims like that, that flies in face of everyone else's experience, without backing it up with tons of evidence.
I mean weed is one of the oldest cultivated plants on the planet. The lack of studies is thanks to the war on drugs.

Also pray tell, how does one empirically test how people "feel" between sativas and indicas? I'm genuinely curious.
I could say Sativas gave me couchlock too.. but they never do. Not a pure sativa. Not to mention, most strains out there these days are hybrid between sativas and indicas, so it gets even murkier.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomism]
    #22087116 - 08/13/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Read what? All I see is a video. His paper was supposed to be published spring of 2014.. what happened?
I will agree, that because of difference in growers and growing conditions.. the same strains can have different final products, as I have already stated several times in this thread.
But to make the claim that all strain names are just bullshit... well.. that's bullshit.
And there are no differences between sativas and indicas?
I should just take your word on it because of your anecdotal evidence? Which, not two sentences prior to making that statement you were decrying unverifiable anecdotal evidence?

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So you're all saying that years of unverifiable anecdotal evidence beats the only feasibly conducted scientific study so far?  :ohyeahdefinitely:

I believed the indica vs. sativa myth until I started making friends with growers and seeing their plants grow from seedling to harvest.

I managed to feel extreme couchlock from an obviously spindly sativa and a buzzy hyper high from a broad-leaved indica.

Please read into what I say and post before making such reactionary statements with no grounding in science.




Read what you said like you asked.





Fair enough, just trying to make a connection with what information you are willing to acknowledge.

The different feelings are governed by varying ratios of cannabinoids, along with the added entourage effect with it's terpenoid profile.

This is a very complex mechanism to study and shouldn't be simplified so easily. We barely understand the  main active components let alone it's interaction with the wide range of other secondary psychoactive components.

It's not as easy as studying the effects of one active compound like in clinical trials for pharmaceuticals, and even then it takes year for definitive data to surface.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #22087271 - 08/13/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That is all very true.
There are at least 85 cannabinoids found in cannabis, of which we have a rudimentary understanding of like... 4 or 5. And over 400 compounds.
Not to mention how they all interact and synergize with one another in different ratios. More research is needed.



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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomism]
    #22087281 - 08/13/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My brains...

they hurt.

(whos got the strain for that?)


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: fractalpancakes]
    #22087285 - 08/13/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trainwreck :yesnod:


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomism]
    #22087290 - 08/13/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That is exactly the point I am trying to make, we need more research. I don't like to just rely on established conventions, I want to see it elaborated in greater detail.

So far I haven't seen anyone link a study that says one species of cannabis has a different ratio of cannabinoids than the other(besides ruderalis), working on retrieving studies that's findings are to the contrary as I type.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomism]
    #22087306 - 08/13/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Trainwreck :yesnod:





aww yissss this is my personal fave. nice suggestion!

anyways to answer original question. Yes there are differences from strain to strain. Also significant differences between sativa and indica.
You must not have experience smoking a wide variety of cannabis if you believe differently. Its as simple as that.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: fractalpancakes]
    #22087328 - 08/13/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nope, I disagree. So does the scientist I mentioned who is researching this topic. He isn't an impartial researcher, he is also a medical patient and is just as astonished with his findings as anyone else.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: 1234go]
    #22087582 - 08/13/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Pretty much the only times I've seen shwag in the last 15 years or so have been in other countries.





It's pretty common in Tx.



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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22087589 - 08/13/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Pretty much the only times I've seen shwag in the last 15 years or so have been in other countries.





It's pretty common in Tx.



You got tha hook up? :pm:




Why you lookin for shwag :lol:


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22087598 - 08/13/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You obviously don't have friends in the medical cannabis industry.

I agree many people are full of shit and talk up BS, but the strains are real and there are real differences.




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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22087620 - 08/13/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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But if you put like 200 strains of weed on a table in front of you you could distinguish between them in terms of appearance, smell, potency, cannibinoid composition, taste, color etc, not to mention growing characteristics, speed to maturation, what kind of environments they do well in, etc etc.

So...

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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22087823 - 08/13/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Just curious. Me personally, I've never understood why people eat that stuff up. I know if you grow it yourself it's a different story but most recreational pot smokers get their herb from some guy who gets it from some guys who gets it from some guy... yeah you know where I'm going with this. I just think it's kind of dumb when someone says something like, "I have some girl scout cookie nugs" or "I got some Jack Herer buds." Yeah, maybe it's some nice herb but how would someone even have a clue as to what strain they have. It seems like the same sort of thing when people say they have "fluff/needle point/lavender" LSD only people tend to believe the weed strain name shit more often. Am I missing something?

Probably the most retarded name I've ever heard someone call something is "Chocolate Haze". & here is a formula I created to use in order to make your ganja sound cool & "exotic":

__(insert name of fruit here)__ + Kush or Haze.




How about "Mind Rape", "Gorilla Panic", "They're Coming, They're Coming" & 1 called "This Is Permanent".

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    #22087926 - 08/13/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Back in the late 1960s & early 1970s (I'm 61 yrs old & have been tokin since 1969)...when ozs were 'lids' & all of the weed was imported. Domestic weed was really horrible, as nobody grew with lids being $10-$15. We'd get a lot of sativas, which can make a n00b very paranoid. Jamaican, Michoacan, Oaxacan, the infamous Acapulco Gold, Panama Red, Thai-Sticks ($13 each)...then in the late 70s/early 80s, Colombian hit the scene & ozs shot up to $30-$40 each.
Believe it or not, Mexican weed back then was some killer smoke. Not sure when they went all garbage, but prior to their downfall, their weed was great. We used to drive around the Chicago suburbs smoking out 1 of our parents' cars. Some really good times back then...& talk about laughing! We'd be laughing our asses off over nothing really. We were 16, 17 yr old kids who thought we discovered a new way to get blasted instead of alcohol.
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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22087947 - 08/13/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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:girlofdisapproval:
I used to be 100% okay with Schwagg, I know you're from Texas so you're almost definitely getting exactly what Schwagg is to me. I never wanted or intended to be an elitist, but after spending a while on the good shit, and getting a bit of Schwagg, I just couldn't take it. It tasted revolting, it took a full blunt to get you legitimately high, the "crash" came after only an hour or so, and then you got headaches. It'a also a huge fucking rip off. Ever weighed the seeds/stems after cleaning an oz? That's like a 1/4 (or more) of the weight gone right off the bat.




Oh believe me, I know schwag fucking sucks. And my god man, it does taste fucking awful. I'm just saying, if I'm in the middle of a trip (which is where 99% of my bud smoking is done these days), and all that's available is schwag...you best believe that I'll light that shit up with no hesitation.

Schwag is still very prevalent in the hood here in Dallas. Make a venture to known drug areas and cruise through the most hooded out apartment complexes you can find, and you're almost assuredly going to get waved down by some black dude slanging dime bags of schwag. Before high grade became the norm, this is how I scored my chronic weekly for years.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: squidhead]
    #22094116 - 08/15/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like you have some really fun memories to look back on, that's cool. I've heard from other older pot smokers that the mexican weed back in the day was killer & that is was all sativa as well. Generally speaking, how does the weed on today's market compare to the weed back then? I'd like to hear back from you. Take care. Have a great weekend.


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22094134 - 08/15/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Pretty much the only times I've seen shwag in the last 15 years or so have been in other countries.





It's pretty common in Tx.



You got tha hook up? :pm:





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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: 1234go]
    #22094764 - 08/15/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm partial to Alaskan Thunderfuck myself


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    #22094806 - 08/15/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

sour kush is the king of weed strains period


OG kush x Sour diesel how the fuck can you go wrong

the taste and texture are there and the high is outta this world

J1's a pretty damn good strain as far as sativers go too


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    #22094812 - 08/15/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

God's Gift is another favorite. Grandaddy purple and OG Kush.. how can you go wrong?


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    #22094975 - 08/15/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

GDP is pretty played out in these partss. Unless its a GDP cross hybrid..Same with Blue Dream

Cant go wrong with some good ole OG though, Grade A medicine

Never tried God's gift.
Had a friend tell me it had him in tears; crying after only a few hits from the zong
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    #22095156 - 08/15/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Because one's strain preference isn't entirely subjective :tongue2:


@Shroomism
I really love the kushier phenos, not that I dislike the purp-leaning ones :lol: Crazy resin production on both but especially the purp, those get so greasy/oily.


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    #22095162 - 08/15/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dispensaries aside, if you get from a dealer they made the name up. I don't even bother anymore with trying to find out what its called. Its always "Kush" anyway


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: DOBAS]
    #22095255 - 08/15/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not entirely true,
Picked up this Blue Cheese yesterday from my vato
&& I assure you it's the real deal.
Ive grown it before so I know that cheesy smell, its truly unique.



He's never dealt me a strain under the wrong name.


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    #22095288 - 08/15/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a little bit of pot I brought back from Colorado.


I forget the strain name




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    #22095304 - 08/15/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ohhhhhhh, I get it!!!
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    #22095417 - 08/15/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Sounds like you have some really fun memories to look back on, that's cool. I've heard from other older pot smokers that the mexican weed back in the day was killer & that is was all sativa as well. Generally speaking, how does the weed on today's market compare to the weed back then? I'd like to hear back from you. Take care. Have a great weekend.




Thanks Bigfeely. It's nice to hear from the younger generation that they're still interested in the "old days" of imported weed. Plus the prices were SO much more reasonable than what people charge nowadays. I have pals in the NY/NJ area & they told me that ozs can go for as much as $500! $500 for an ounce of weed? I used to buy lbs of A-Gold in 1970/71 for $165. The Michoacan, which was still righteous on its own behalf, would be $135/lb. "Lids" (which could be either a 3-finger or 4-finger baggie...the baggies with those flaps) were $10 or $15 apiece. Now the Acapulco Gold or Panama Red (Red was extremely rare) would have to be $20/lid, as the lbs were $30-$40 more than usual.

Back then, we preferred the sativas, as that was more energetic than the indicas. Indicas tended to make us so laidback that if something shitty was on TV (all 5 channels...lol), we'd watch whatever was on because it would require standing up & changing the channel. Too much exertion! Yeah, TV was free, but the selection was horrible. The 3 networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) & maybe 1 or 2 independent stations. We didn't care, as it would make us go out & make our own fun. I think that's what is lacking nowadays. With computers, smartphones, 250 TV channels to choose from, people aren't making their own fun anymore. If we wanted to see the Grand Canyon, we'd hitch-hike there to see it instead of Googling the damn thing.

You sound like you'd be more inclined to make your own adventures, as we used to do. I remember going to concerts in Chicago (we lived in the suburbs) & dropping some Microdot on the train to the city. By the time we arrived, we'd be tripping ballz! Catch a bus to the Auditorium or Amphitheater & see bands like Jethro Tull, The Who (highest energy show I've seen), Mountain (Mississippi Queen), Jefferson Airplane, bands like those. Great times & excellent memories.

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    #22109635 - 08/19/15 03:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I can't believe people are actually debating this...

If you buy your weed from anyone except a dispensary,  odds are you're not getting what they say it is. This is painfully obvious. My guy told me once that he had lemon haze. So i grabbed a gram. The next week I asked him what he had and he said trainwreck. It was the exact same weed.

Its all marketing like others have already mentioned. Shit even dispensaries do it.

This is not hard to understand.  You might be mad and unwilling to accept that you have not been getting "dat Kush" all this time, but you need to.

I don't even ask my guy what the name is anymore. Every time he kinda stutters then spits a name out. The majority of people here in this area refer to weed as "Kush" anyway. I don't waste my time


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Re: Who buys into the weed strain name thing? [Re: DOBAS]
    #22110431 - 08/19/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey what's up squidhead! I like your name man. Damn... those prices for pounds are so ridiculously cheap. Boy, have times changed. Nowadays in a lot of places, just an ounce of mediocre bud costs about $165 give or take. & Yes $500 for top shelf medical grade bud an ounce is not unheard of in some places. High quality or not though, it seems like highway robbery to me. I mean really, $500 for a sandwich sized baggy of something that was grown in the dirt... That's pure greed right there!

Damn, that is cool. Going to see the Grand Canyon just because. It'd be like a real life quest. I wish I had other people to go on my adventures with. I don't go that far but I like to go hiking/walking in woods & vast fields. I always have this mentality whenever I go on an adventure, "This is going to be the best time ever." :grin: I don't always go into woods or nature though. Sometimes I just like to walk or skateboard around town visiting the places that have some cool buildings, go by the waterside, walk near the railroad tracks, & end the night with getting something to eat by myself. Rarely are any drugs involved, I like to travel light anyway.

I do make my own adventures but I am a lone gypsy kind of person. Anything I do I do by myself. I have never found anyone that likes to do the same kind of stuff that I do besides smoke pot but I never like to base a friendship or a relationship in general on doing drugs together. Those kind of relationships I do not like because usually the motive to hanging out is scoring drugs or something that involves a greed. Usually when I'd ask someone if they wanted to go out to eat or go into town their response would be something like, "we have food here." OR "what's there to do in town, just walk around?" Boring people I guess. I don't know. I never really got to know those people when I did spend time with them even though some of them I knew for a few years.

I'll see you around squidhead. It looks like you've been a member on the shroomery for quite some time now yet I think I have only seen you one other time & that was on a thread from a while back. I hope you stick around for a while man. Take care. :smile:


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