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    #22083314 - 08/12/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hello, I had to create a new profile (for obvious reasons lol), but I have lined myself up to supply my towns local restaurants and grocers with 100+ pounds/week of different varieties of oyster mushrooms.

I have just received some funding, and have applied for much more (hoping it all goes through:thumbup:)

I am just about to start building a dedicated mushroom grow building (will basically be a garage that is retrofitted for growing mushrooms) The garage is going to be 24x24 with 3 sections. The front 16' will be split into 2 rooms, an incubating room and a fruiting room, with the back being a lab/clean room.

I am just seeking any wisdom and advice from anyone who has done the same thing, also if this sounds like a wise use of space in the grow building, or maybe a smaller lab would be better with more room for growing?

Any input is greatly appreciated. Thank you, and wish me luck. Lol


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22083421 - 08/12/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

if you just want to grow oysters what do you need the lab for?  commercial spawn is almost cheaper than you can make it, when factoring in labor costs.  i'm talking about the 3015 from amycel or 123 from lambert.  both are excellent blue oysters.  for oysters, equal room for fruiting and incubation is good.  you could get away with less incubation space since the logs can be closer together.  i would try cold pasteurizing with hydrated lime and laundry detergent.  i do 50/50 straw and cotton seed hulls by dry weight.


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Re: advice [Re: drake89]
    #22083502 - 08/12/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I live in northern Canada...., if they even will ship to me do you think it will still be cheaper? I was looking into amycel but couldn't find any prices. Also....I really want to get into isolating, and working with agar in general lol.

But I suppose if I drop the lab (or maybe make it significantly smaller), it will ultimately leave me with more room for growing.

How big of a room do you figure will be needed for say 100lbs, or 200lbs? I was figuring if there were room for 50 straw logs that are 8" by 4', it would be overkill lol. 

I will def be looking into cold pasteurization. When using cotton seed hulls is there a significant difference in yields?

Thanks for the quick reply :smile:


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22083519 - 08/12/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Drake, do you do any g2g after purchasing spawn?

I think a lab space is a good investment especially if you ever plan to grow other edibles or isolate local varieties of mushrooms.


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Re: advice [Re: deadmandave]
    #22083522 - 08/12/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I will be keeping a lab space....just maybe not 8x24 haha.


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22084751 - 08/13/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with Drake.

Also you will need prep space and chilled storage.

The link in my sig gives some calcs for working out space and amount of sub for a specific qty of mushrooms.

Oh and quite a lot of money to set it up.


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Re: advice [Re: solarity]
    #22084883 - 08/13/15 04:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i expand my spawn to sawdust since that's part of my regular production schedule, making sawdust bags that is.  i would try and keep your lab as far away from your grow area as possible to avoid cross contamination.  even with constant vigilance you're going to get contaminants in your grow area.  plus you're going to want that space for substrate preparation.  and storage.  you can certainly grow 100lbs per week in a small area...say 8x8 or 10x10.  but you'd be much better off with more space.  think about it like this; if you want 2 flushes you'll need room for 3-5 weeks worth of logs in your fruit room.  at least 3 weeks worth of logs in your colonization room.  but asking these questions leads me to believe you may be setting yourself up to fail at first.  if you have the cash to deal with it, no big deal.  otherwise...baby steps.  nobody goes from 0-100lbs per week without getting their ass handed to them.


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Re: advice [Re: drake89]
    #22085163 - 08/13/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have read your link solarity, that's actually what kind of set me off on this lol (I love it by the way)....I went in reverse though....had a total amount of product and worked backwards. So I suppose a thank you is in order :hatsoff:.

Drake, I am planning to have the lab room completely sealed off from the grow room, with the entrance between the incubating room and the lab. Do you think this is sufficient to keep out contams? (Also will be using a flowhood, and possibly another hepa filter and fan for positive pressure).

Believe me, I know the risks, and I am willing to invest my time and money, I really enjoy the whole process of growing mushrooms, right from inoculation. Also I know there WILL be set backs, but I can and will succeed....may it be in weeks, months or longer lol.

The only thing that I am having trouble figuring out is the amount of logs to prepare....so I figure if I prep 50 logs/week until the first flush arrives, I should have more than enough mushrooms, unless there is a contam problem, which will be a lesser chance because everything will be new. Then I can judge in the first month or 2 as the flushes will continue fruiting how close or way off my target I am.

My question is I guess, if I just continue making "x" number of logs on a weekly basis, I should have a perpetual flushing period no?

Sorry if this is too long lol. Just so excited about it all. I have an excellent opportunity to do something I really enjoy, and I fully intend on taking it. Even if it means courses, classes, or consulting to succeed. I am also looking into purchasing spawn for the first while to get it all started.

Thanks


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22086500 - 08/13/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My logs are 50lbs each.  So I make 30 a week for about 200lbs a week.  How big are yours?  I started selling wholesale because I was throwing 50+lbs of oysters out weekly.  So don't think you have an infinite market demand.


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Re: advice [Re: drake89]
    #22088613 - 08/13/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The size of straw logs is what I am trying to figure out right now. You are correct, there is not an infinite demand, but seeing as there is no supply within 800kms of where I live, there is a large area for me to supply. This is why I am going to over shoot at first....to allow me to see what the demand is, while producing enough to fill the demand.

How big are your logs? If you don't mind me asking.


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22088904 - 08/13/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What ever you do. Build a lab space. There is no fun in this hobby without it. You will want to mess around at some point. Not building a lab just seems like nonsense.
I don't think anyone here would enjoy the hobby without it. By lab space I mean anything from a clean space with a still air box to whatever your money can afford...

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Re: advice [Re: bryanbzl]
    #22089648 - 08/13/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank :thumbup:, i will be building a flowhood.


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22090018 - 08/14/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My logs are about one foot by four feet.  You should not treat this as a hobby if you are in it for business purposes.  That was the biggest hurdle for me and most beginner organic farmers- trying to grow too many things at once.  You're smart to start out with one crop and get good at it.  Maybe by next year you'll be out of your garage!


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Re: advice [Re: drake89]
    #22090053 - 08/14/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Glad it was helpful!

The simplest way to think of it is that every week you need to make around 5 x the weight of mushrooms you want/week. So if you want 100lbs of Oysters a week you need to make 500lbs of sub. You need to wait for the build up, if you make more than your system can handle you will just clog it up and production will never be steady.

I would recommend making logs of a size that you are comfortable handling.

Do not forget handling your waste substrate. You ideally want that set up from the start. People will not be queuing up to buy it from you !

Oh and don't forget that there is a Mushroom God, and he like to have a laugh at your expense, so promise quantity or delivery time, just not both!


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Re: advice [Re: solarity]
    #22090199 - 08/14/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the great advice. Drake, what do you mean by one crop? Solarity, there is a large farming sector where I live, so I will get on that immediately lol. 

The only reason I am starting with a garage of this size and a grow of this magnitude is I don't currently have an adequate space to grow.....and rather than build several times over while I grow a business, I am going to start with the space needed to supply enough to turn a profit, I can always add more building if need be.

Like I said earlier, I have the money and time....my thoughts are, if I am thinking of doing this for an area with a demand and no supply, odds are someone else is as well right? Lol. So I am going to continue to research, while I put all my knowledge and prior research to work.


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22090266 - 08/14/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks for the great advice. Drake, what do you mean by one crop?


I mean growing one species.  keeps things simple.  forces you to get really good at it and develop a functioning production SYSTEM.


Like I said earlier, I have the money and time....my thoughts are, if I am thinking of doing this for an area with a demand and no supply, odds are someone else is as well right? Lol.

Mushroom startups come and go.  most of the people with capital have no knowledge.  most of the people with knowledge have no capital.  seems like you have a little bit of both so you're in a good position to be successful.  you have to be very good at growing mushrooms and find a market for them.  If you're in a city, you may find direct marketing to be profitable.  I was spending 15+hours a week delivering to restaurants before I started doing wholesale, so I was basically just spinning my wheels in the mud.






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Re: advice [Re: drake89]
    #22090302 - 08/14/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, that is my plan at first. I will be growing blue oyster for a while, then adding a few other strains that have the same fruiting conditions. Or is there maybe a suggestion as to what strain to grow at first?

There is a population of 110,000 in my city..with a great community that likes to support local. Sorry to hear that it went that way for you. But it sounds like you turned it into something that works:thumbup: good to hear.

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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22090362 - 08/14/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

as i said before, grow amycel's 3015.  there's really no other strain that compares that you can get in Canada.  you have to call them to get a quote.  and pay by check.  pretty sure they have a canadian facility?


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    #22090457 - 08/14/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I will be checking it out later today lol. Thanks. When I looked on their website the other day I believe the closest to my location is PA or IN....but I will inquire.


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22090503 - 08/14/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ah well if you have to import you might as well shop around.  Lambert sells yellow, blue, and brown.  Doesn't CANada levy a huge import tax?


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    #22091890 - 08/14/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Apparently there is an office in BC......been trying to call with no answer. But it still makes my life way easier lol. Thanks


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    #22092768 - 08/14/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Drake, if you dont mind me asking, roughly how much is it per pound of 3015? I am putting a business plan together. Thanks


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22093212 - 08/15/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Personally living in Canada and having experience with what you are doing I would highly recommend not buying spawn and learning to grow your own. Any chance of you getting spawn for a decent price from the US will be all buy a great idea until all that spawn needs to make its way across the border. been there done that.

As far as spent substrate the best success I've had was composting it in piles and selling it as compost to nurseries. As I'm sure you are aware of, here in Canada prices for a bag of good compost are about 4.99+ per standard sized bag. If you contact a nursery and talk business with them they will gladly take it off your hands adding to your overall profit margins. I am currently expanding my vermicomposting setup to be able to process all my spent substrate into casting. I am doing this for good reason. To increase the profit from my spent substrate 4x+. Also because it is not easy to make money from growing mushrooms in a smaller scale. Actually I will have to rephrase that - It is a job like any other! It takes hard work. If your heart is in it then I have no doubt you will make it happen. Just start small and expand to meet your demand.

Any questions just PM me. I will gladly answer any Q's over PM that you feel aren't worth a thread.

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    #22093224 - 08/15/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I forgot to mention. Only you can tell if buying spawn will work for you. If you can charge crazy prices for your product then maybe it'll work out for you. but for the most part for smaller scale operations like you describe you will be more profitable doing everything in house as far as spawn goes and also supply a higher quality. (i.e. larger and more quality fruits as opposed to those cheap mass bottle culture mushrooms.)

Buy a copy of GGMM by stamets if you haven't already. He goes into great detail about spawn production and the reasons why you should do it yourself or if you should buy - not to mention all of the other great info. I would recommend mycelium running as well. amazing read.:thumbup:


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22094052 - 08/15/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Drake, if you dont mind me asking, roughly how much is it per pound of 3015? I am putting a business plan together. Thanks




for me, I think it's like $1/lb for the spawn plus about $1/lb for shipping.  so go and pick it up if at all possible.  comes in 20lb bags, 2 per case, one case minimum order.


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    #22094511 - 08/15/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Drake, if you dont mind me asking, roughly how much is it per pound of 3015? I am putting a business plan together. Thanks




for me, I think it's like $1/lb for the spawn plus about $1/lb for shipping.  so go and pick it up if at all possible.  comes in 20lb bags, 2 per case, one case minimum order.




Hey Drake. Is that sawdust spawn? That is a good price for spawn. :thumbup: Great advice. OP says they have a BC office. Do you know anything about Canadian orders? I have only tried with shipping from the US and it wasn't really cost effective with the whole customs situation.


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    #22094545 - 08/15/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Excellent, great advice bryan....my sis actually works at the largest greenhouse in my town haha...def going to throw out the idea. Thanks a lot, thats my stance on this as well, it will be a job, but I am going to put in my hard work to make it a go. Will def take you up on pm'ing lol thanks.

I already know how to make spawn from spores, I have been researching agar work and cloning for as long as I have been doing this. Never had a need for that much spawn though. I am planning on finding spawn to purchase for the first month or 2 while I get everything operational, then will be creating my own.

Drake, thanks alot, thats even cheaper than I forested in the budget lol, I was looking on a gov site and it sounds like to me amycel has a warehouse here...they import the spawn and send it across Canada. (But you know what happens with assumptions haha)


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    #22094548 - 08/15/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bry, I am currently trying to get in touch with them, they are closed till monday. I will let you know what I find out.


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Re: advice [Re: northwest gourmet]
    #22094785 - 08/15/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Amycel sells oyster grain spawn for $30/per 15 liter sack - which is around 18lbs.

A case is two 15 liter bags, and sells for $60 bucks. When I factored in the shipping costs for my location in the Midwest/US, it ends up costing between $2.20 and $2.45 per pound of spawn. :eek:

When asked if they offer organic spawn, they were dumbfounded and claimed never to have been asked that before... :eek: they decided they obviously don't. :shrug:

If you really want to grow Amycel strains, I'd say buy one bag and then clone/borrow the culture for making your own spawn.

My costs in making organic grain spawn is under 50 cents a pound. If you really want to purchase I would recommend you stick with your "local" ethics and look for a smaller grower or operation around your area who would really benefit from the extra income instead of another corporate brown shoe.


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    #22094942 - 08/15/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Amycel sells oyster grain spawn for $30/per 15 liter sack - which is around 18lbs.

A case is two 15 liter bags, and sells for $60 bucks. When I factored in the shipping costs for my location in the Midwest/US, it ends up costing between $2.20 and $2.45 per pound of spawn. :eek:

When asked if they offer organic spawn, they were dumbfounded and claimed never to have been asked that before... :eek: they decided they obviously don't. :shrug:

If you really want to grow Amycel strains, I'd say buy one bag and then clone/borrow the culture for making your own spawn.

My costs in making organic grain spawn is under 50 cents a pound. If you really want to purchase I would recommend you stick with your "local" ethics and look for a smaller grower or operation around your area who would really benefit from the extra income instead of another corporate brown shoe.




i totally disagree with you on most counts.  especially the first sentence- their CASES are $30.  that's two bags.

anyone in your area would probably not want to foster their own competition.  at least that's the way i look at it.  I and anyone else with any sense won't let other local growers near their operation.

the ultimate irony is that Monterey Mushrooms owns Amycel.  Which is smart on their end.  But I'm using their spawn to sell mushrooms to people that otherwise buy from monterey.  hehehe


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    #22095000 - 08/15/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

"A case is two 15 liter bags for $60 bucks...:wink:"

The way I see it is competition is good, and I've found that most people that are going to buy spawn are going to buy it no matter what - so you might as well be the one to sell it to them. :cool:

What goes around comes around, which is why I often choose to support small operations and local folk over larger entities when I can, no matter what the product or service. If you want people to support your endeavors it's only fair to support theirs. :sunny:


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    #22095427 - 08/15/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

maybe i've been getting 'special' pricing but I doubt it.  arguing on the internet is like the special olympics.  even if you win- you're still retarded.

clearly you haven't thought this out as a business person.  if you're getting your spawn from someone you're competing with- what's to stop them from giving you contaminated spawn for instance?


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    #22096303 - 08/15/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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maybe i've been getting 'special' pricing but I doubt it.  arguing on the internet is like the special olympics.  even if you win- you're still retarded.

clearly you haven't thought this out as a business person.  if you're getting your spawn from someone you're competing with- what's to stop them from giving you contaminated spawn for instance?




Good point. That's why you grow your own. Fuck ordering spawn. :cool:

LMAO on the retarded joke.. haven't heard that one in a couple decades.


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    #22096924 - 08/15/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Have to agree with drake on this one, and besides, the whole reason I'm doin this venture is there is no one within 800 kms of me that even touches gourmet mushrooms, let alone spawn.


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    #22096931 - 08/15/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also.....the retarded joke literally made me laugh out loud hahaha.....good one


Edited by northwest gourmet (08/16/15 05:11 AM)


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    #22097956 - 08/16/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

@drake
:facepalm3: Your obviously reading my posts wrong and being a fucking punk about it to.

I don't see an argument,  I'm just stating the prices I was given over the phone and proposing a good work ethic based on networking locally and connecting with real people on a real level you're over looking.

I just talked to Amycel on the phone Thursday and was quoted at $30 bucks per bag of oyster spawn. Two bags in a case for $60 bucks...add in shipping costs and its way more costly per pound then making your own. 

That's not an argument it's only math. :mindblown:

If you have no local competition I'm only proposing you save money by making your own spawn.

If you think your competition is going to "sabotage" your operation your the fucktard. No one wins in that situation - the buyer gets one bad crop, the spawn supplier never sees any more income from the sabotaged grower and looks like an asshole..... "so much for that relationship, but I bet Amycel has my back...I mean $check$..."

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Re: advice [Re: poofterFroth]
    #22098095 - 08/16/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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@drake
:facepalm3: Your obviously reading my posts wrong and being a fucking punk about it to.

I don't see an argument,  I'm just stating the prices I was given over the phone and proposing a good work ethic based on networking locally and connecting with real people on a real level you're over looking.

I just talked to Amycel on the phone Thursday and was quoted at $30 bucks per bag of oyster spawn. Two bags in a case for $60 bucks...add in shipping costs and its way more costly per pound then making your own. 

That's not an argument it's only math. :mindblown:

If you have no local competition I'm only proposing you save money by making your own spawn.

If you think your competition is going to "sabotage" your operation your the fucktard. No one wins in that situation - the buyer gets one bad crop, the spawn supplier never sees any more income from the sabotaged grower and looks like an asshole..... "so much for that relationship, but I bet Amycel has my back...I mean $check$..."

It's ok you have a small dick and your not always right. :freewilly:
I forgive you for your insecurities. :inlove:




I'm shaking in my booties.  If you value your time at $20/hr like I do, then the cost is about the same.  except when you order spawn it's guaranteed to be good and you don't have to do any work.  They will replace their spawn for free if it's bad.  it's called opportunity cost and it just means that sometimes you save money by spending it (if it saves you time you can spend doing something more productive).

nothing ever goes 100% right when you're farming and having your operation come to a halt because you made some bad spawn is very costly.  and not something i'd like to experience ever again.


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    #22098165 - 08/16/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree; its hard to buy self confidence.  :grinch:


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    #22098367 - 08/16/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Drake, seeing as how I dont have any cultures haha, do you think its possible to buy a slant or dish from you if available?


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    #22098372 - 08/16/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Drake, seeing as how I dont have any cultures haha, do you think its possible to buy a slant or dish from you if available?



depends on what you want.  I don't run cultures anymore but I have a lot backed up in my fridge and on water agar at room temp.


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    #22099026 - 08/16/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The guy I get my spawn from only sells fresh G.2 spawn in nice 2kg bags (which are easy for my little still box to handle).

To lower my costs I always expand his spawn onto my own grains (taking them to G.3, just ready for bulk). Usually I do about 6x2kg bags of my own from his 1x2kg bag, and leave/keep some of his culture 'in case of emergencies'.


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    #22099563 - 08/16/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Drake, was thinking maybe king oyster and blue oyster or something like that.


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    #22099575 - 08/16/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oysterking, where abouts are you located?


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    #22101239 - 08/17/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

All the way in Cape Town goodbuddy.


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    #22101704 - 08/17/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

O wow.....haha I was going to ask where you get your spawn but thats kinda far lol. I live in Ontario, Canada. lol


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    #22101964 - 08/17/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

PM me and perhaps we can work something out.


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    #22102569 - 08/17/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The spawn may be cheap compared to your dollar pricing, but DHL will probably charge a stack. Quite envious that you could do swaps with Drake and co so relatively easily.

I'd love to visit Canada. Even if you don't have any spawn there.

Hmmm.. Haha Maybe you should make some tasty grain spawn for Canadian growers and stick it to the brownshoes who cant decide on a price.


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    #22102622 - 08/17/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

lol I might look into it....ha. I just got off the phone with amycel in BC....46.50/case, a case is 2 15L bags, so it might all work out after all.

The shroomery in general has got to be the best damned site on the web lol. Everyone is so helpful, and like you said, to be able to trade and perhaps buy things from people who are established in the trade is excellent. I love the community feeling lol. Sorry to get all sappy and shit but its incredible haha.


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