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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22906438 - 02/15/16 06:27 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Hillary got paid more for speeches to Goldman Sachs in 2014 than Bernie's entire net worth.




That doesn't surprise me, Hillary was obviously paid so well for what she "could do for them" I highly doubt there were taking any sort of financial or motivational advice from her, she knows almost as little as Bernie about managing a company


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #22914373 - 02/17/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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I read part of it, and realized the guy is nothing more than a tremendous buffoon.  Why bother reading the rest of it?

For example, he notes that many communist leaders died wealthy, and this is the opposite of what communism is supposed to be about.  Two problems with that.  Number one is that in the United States, Bernie can't suddenly raise his paycheck to millions of dollars a year.  Number two (and this is HUGE), Bernie is not a communist.

Guys like this prey on gullible people like you.  Don't be gullible.




:whathesaid:

Bernie's not a Communist! He's not even a fucking Socialist! :lmafo:

He's a Keynesian Capitalist.

The strawman king  is importing strawman arguments now!






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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22914553 - 02/17/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22915113 - 02/17/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Why is there a picture of Bernie next to that quote?

He doesn't subscribe to Mises' bullshit, and neither do mainstream economists.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22915130 - 02/17/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Why is there a picture of Bernie next to that quote?

He doesn't subscribe to Mises' bullshit, and neither do mainstream economists.




You're comprehension is lacking, the quote is describing Bernie...obviously...


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #22915162 - 02/17/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

But Bernie's not a socialist.  That quote is about socialists.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Enlil]
    #22915171 - 02/17/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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But Bernie's not a socialist.  That quote is about socialists.




Lol, okay then...


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #22915193 - 02/17/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

It's good to see that you're capable of learning something.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #22916559 - 02/17/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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But Bernie's not a socialist.  That quote is about socialists.




Lol, okay then...




Bernie could be called a Keynesian Capitalist, a 'New Dealer', even a 'Democratic Socialist' (given it's modern day interpretation), but he can't be called a 'Socialist'. He just isn't one. Unless he starts advocating something like government subsidies for worker owned businesses, or something along those lines, he really doesn't adhere to Socialist ideals.

The core of Socialism is the empowerment of labor in the workplace. Worker ownership, either through government, cooperative initiatives, or something along those lines.

The word Socialist has just been so muddied over the years. I'm sure all of us use it incorrectly to describe things that don't actually fit into the definition of Socialism.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22916929 - 02/17/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22917086 - 02/17/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
    #26252468 - 10/14/19 06:27 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Capitalism and democracy can only coexist when democracy is also practiced within the workplace. If a Capitalist society is comprised of German worker-council style businesses or worker cooperatives, then Democracy will be prevalent in society.



Bernie is now proposing this:

To Tackle Ills of 'Unfettered Capitalism,' Sanders Plan Would Give Workers Seats on Corporate Boards and Reverse Trump Tax Cuts

:freewilly:


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26252473 - 10/14/19 06:28 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Germany has this, it works pretty good.

It’s not socialism, but I like it.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26253922 - 10/15/19 01:04 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

FEEL THE HEARTBERN!


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: meltdowner] * 1
    #26254997 - 10/15/19 10:01 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Bernie just won the debate, and got the squad to endorse him. Pretty eventful night for sane politics.


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