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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Tipote]
    #22817453 - 01/24/16 12:38 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

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as long as i dont have to share a carriage with HU.



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unfotunately for you, they wont be making special accomadations. :grin:



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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: starfire_xes] * 3
    #22819512 - 01/24/16 03:37 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

Clinton is now claiming that 'Bernie is the establishment candidate', because he's been a politician for longer than her! :lmafo:


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
    #22819545 - 01/24/16 03:43 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

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Clinton is now claiming that 'Bernie is the establishment candidate', because he's been a politician for longer than her! :lmafo:




:curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #22819664 - 01/24/16 04:20 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

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Clinton is now claiming that 'Bernie is the establishment candidate', because he's been a politician for longer than her! :lmafo:




:curbyourenthusiasm:


Fuck Clinton




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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #22819898 - 01/24/16 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)



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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22820244 - 01/24/16 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

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Trump is taking credit for Bernie's surge in the polls.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266853-trump-takes-credit-for-sanders-momentum
:loldongs:




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lmao!

I remember an interview I saw with Trump where he was saying he was drawing bigger crowds than Bernie, and the newscaster said, 'Really? Bigger than 28,000 in Portland and LA?' and he said 'well, we drew 15...' lmao!


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22820331 - 01/24/16 07:12 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

From your article:

Quote:

“And then they start saying, ‘Bernie Sanders is surging, an amazing thing happened.’ I did it – I’m saying I did that,” he added.

“This guy Bernie Sanders – give me a break. How does he figure this whole thing? But he got all the credit – it’s unbelievable.”{/quote] - Donald J(erkoff) Trump

:laugh2: This guy is like a character out of a Seth MacFarlane cartoon!

'He's getting credit for his campaign's success, and not ME! How unbelievable! The outrage!' :lmafo:


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #22821942 - 01/25/16 07:51 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

That's just the kind of idiocy needed in the white house, yup




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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Repertoire89] * 3
    #22821951 - 01/25/16 07:58 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)



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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Tipote]
    #22822195 - 01/25/16 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

The closer we get to single payer, the more control the govt asserts over healthcare, the worse these problems will get...

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Ironically, increased FDA oversight might even create more shortages - researchers note that rather than invest in infrastructure or submit to enhanced inspections, businesses may decide simply to stop producing drugs. "This is one of the byproducts of a focus on cost in health care," explained Pines. "There may be a demand for medication, but it may not be in a company's best interest to produce it because the amount they can charge is often lower than the amount it costs to manufacture it."

It seems simple enough: If companies produce more drugs, more drugs will be available to ERs. But given that the majority of drugs on shortage in emergency rooms are sterile injectables with low profit margins, don't expect that to happen anytime soon. "There are many ways to mitigate drug shortages, but there's no magic bullet to solve them," said Pines. "This could and potentially will get worse."




http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/ct-emergency-room-drug-shortages-20160124-story.html?platform=hootsuite


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22822284 - 01/25/16 10:43 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

from your article:
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Pharmaceutical companies listed "business decision" as the reason for a shortage 2.1 percent of the time.




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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22822313 - 01/25/16 10:54 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

single payer will decrease the cost of drugs and treatments drastically while increasing their availability.

I dont know if you realise how expensive US healthcare is? things in Europe cost a fraction of what it does in America.

I would say that changing the healthcare situation alone won't change everything. There need to be other changes in order for the industry to flourish. For example, the structure of US lobbying should be wiped out. Big pharma etc shouldn't be able have an influence on how these policies manifest.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22822365 - 01/25/16 11:17 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
The closer we get to single payer, the more control the govt asserts over healthcare, the worse these problems will get...

Quote:

Ironically, increased FDA oversight might even create more shortages - researchers note that rather than invest in infrastructure or submit to enhanced inspections, businesses may decide simply to stop producing drugs. "This is one of the byproducts of a focus on cost in health care," explained Pines. "There may be a demand for medication, but it may not be in a company's best interest to produce it because the amount they can charge is often lower than the amount it costs to manufacture it."

It seems simple enough: If companies produce more drugs, more drugs will be available to ERs. But given that the majority of drugs on shortage in emergency rooms are sterile injectables with low profit margins, don't expect that to happen anytime soon. "There are many ways to mitigate drug shortages, but there's no magic bullet to solve them," said Pines. "This could and potentially will get worse."




http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/ct-emergency-room-drug-shortages-20160124-story.html?platform=hootsuite





And just maybe we can some control over the drug companies.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: viktor]
    #22822777 - 01/25/16 01:36 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

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viktor said:
Surely he could beat Trump in a general election.






I doubt it.  Don't get me wrong, I loathe Trump but I don't control 50 million votes.  If it's between those two mutts I'm writing myself in.  You should write me in, too.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: sweeper54]
    #22822779 - 01/25/16 01:36 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
The closer we get to single payer, the more control the govt asserts over healthcare, the worse these problems will get...

Quote:

Ironically, increased FDA oversight might even create more shortages - researchers note that rather than invest in infrastructure or submit to enhanced inspections, businesses may decide simply to stop producing drugs. "This is one of the byproducts of a focus on cost in health care," explained Pines. "There may be a demand for medication, but it may not be in a company's best interest to produce it because the amount they can charge is often lower than the amount it costs to manufacture it."

It seems simple enough: If companies produce more drugs, more drugs will be available to ERs. But given that the majority of drugs on shortage in emergency rooms are sterile injectables with low profit margins, don't expect that to happen anytime soon. "There are many ways to mitigate drug shortages, but there's no magic bullet to solve them," said Pines. "This could and potentially will get worse."




http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/ct-emergency-room-drug-shortages-20160124-story.html?platform=hootsuite





And just maybe we can some control over the drug companies.



Why should we control the drug companies?


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22822843 - 01/25/16 01:54 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

Oh I don't know, how about when assholes raises the price 5000% on a drug just because they can.

Or it cost some in the US $100 a pill and anywhere else is a 25¢.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: sweeper54]
    #22822965 - 01/25/16 02:27 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

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Oh I don't know, how about when assholes raises the price 5000% on a drug just because they can.

Or it cost some in the US $100 a pill and anywhere else is a 25¢.





The only reason drug companies could raises prices like that is if they have government enforced monopolies.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Shins]
    #22822970 - 01/25/16 02:28 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

It's funny that people are so heasetant to call bernie a "socialist" yet when in reality he's actually a Communist.  Read about his past, you'll see.  America is going red


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Shins]
    #22823351 - 01/25/16 03:48 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

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Oh I don't know, how about when assholes raises the price 5000% on a drug just because they can.

Or it cost some in the US $100 a pill and anywhere else is a 25¢.



The only reason drug companies could raises prices like that is if they have government enforced monopolies.



Are you arguing against patents?


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: sweeper54]
    #22823921 - 01/25/16 05:53 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

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Oh I don't know, how about when assholes raises the price 5000% on a drug just because they can.

Or it cost some in the US $100 a pill and anywhere else is a 25¢.




The asshole in question was able to raise the price that much because nobody else was willing to make even though the patent was long expired.  The reason a pill is cheaper is because the US subsidizes it.


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