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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22482520 - 11/05/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: sure, The Hoover Dam.
want another?

The Hoover Dam was built with stolen money (Tax dollars) try again, liberal.
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/dougfrench/2012/09/03/hoover_dam_worst_investment_in_history/page/full
oh, i see, it seems that your position is that taxation is theft.
since that is incorrect, i'm not sure how to proceed with this conversation.
you might want to invest in one of these:

LOL where do you think taxes come from, balls?
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22482524 - 11/05/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said:
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ballsalsa said: sure, The Hoover Dam.
want another?

The Hoover Dam was built with stolen money (Tax dollars) try again, liberal.
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/dougfrench/2012/09/03/hoover_dam_worst_investment_in_history/page/full
oh, i see, it seems that your position is that taxation is theft.
since that is incorrect, i'm not sure how to proceed with this conversation.
you might want to invest in one of these:

While taxation may or may not be theft, although it certainly borders on it, spending the future earnings of taxpayers that currently have no say in it, certainly is.
That's my biggest problem with our debt, the future generations have absolutely no say in how any of that money is being spent. That's the definition of taxation without representation
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: burgerbrain]
#22482560 - 11/05/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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They come from taxpayers who are bound by law to pay them. Taxpayers then benefit from all the awesome stuff that the Gov't does with those revenues. Now, if there were no laws allowing for taxation, and instead, government agents simply mugged random passerby, THAT would be theft.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22482678 - 11/05/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: They come from taxpayers who are bound by law to pay them. Taxpayers then benefit from all the awesome stuff that the Gov't does with those revenues. Now, if there were no laws allowing for taxation, and instead, government agents simply mugged random passerby, THAT would be theft.
So when a person earned some money using their own hard work, and this person does not want to give his money to someone else,
and then a "gov" comes along and takes said money and spends it on pensions and gold chains for gov workers-
You're saying that's not theft? Hilarious what liberals come up with nowadays
Similar to saying that slaves are not slaves because the massa gives them food and a warm bed to sleep in. Good job lib.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: burgerbrain]
#22482729 - 11/05/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: They come from taxpayers who are bound by law to pay them. Taxpayers then benefit from all the awesome stuff that the Gov't does with those revenues. Now, if there were no laws allowing for taxation, and instead, government agents simply mugged random passerby, THAT would be theft.
 So when a person earned some money using their own hard work, and this person does not want to give his money to someone else,
and then a "gov" comes along and takes said money and spends it on pensions and gold chains for gov workers-
You're saying that's not theft? Hilarious what liberals come up with nowadays
Similar to saying that slaves are not slaves because the massa gives them food and a warm bed to sleep in. Good job lib.
No, what i'm saying is that if somebody benefits from the trappings of society (especially by making money within that society), they should contribute instead of being a selfish prick. It has no bearing on slavery whatsoever. If you enjoy things like roads, electricity, hospitals, airplanes, firefighters, ambulances, search and rescue teams, the internet, not being invaded, voting, etc., then stop being a crybaby, shut the fuck up, and pay your goddamn taxes you selfish fuck.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22483131 - 11/05/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: They come from taxpayers who are bound by law to pay them. Taxpayers then benefit from all the awesome stuff that the Gov't does with those revenues. Now, if there were no laws allowing for taxation, and instead, government agents simply mugged random passerby, THAT would be theft.
 So when a person earned some money using their own hard work, and this person does not want to give his money to someone else,
and then a "gov" comes along and takes said money and spends it on pensions and gold chains for gov workers-
You're saying that's not theft? Hilarious what liberals come up with nowadays
Similar to saying that slaves are not slaves because the massa gives them food and a warm bed to sleep in. Good job lib.
No, what i'm saying is that if somebody benefits from the trappings of society (especially by making money within that society), they should contribute instead of being a selfish prick. It has no bearing on slavery whatsoever. If you enjoy things like roads, electricity, hospitals, airplanes, firefighters, ambulances, search and rescue teams, the internet, not being invaded, voting, etc., then stop being a crybaby, shut the fuck up, and pay your goddamn taxes you selfish fuck.
Yes I will pay taxes because I'm forced at gunpoint to pay the ever-increasing taxes.
Again you're saying that slaves should appreciate the fact that their massas' give them food, and a warm place to sleep at night.
It sounds like you're getting personal about taxes. I assume you use a lot of gov' services then.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: burgerbrain]
#22483169 - 11/05/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds a lot like when Obama told business owners "you didn't build that" and people are still buying into his BS...
Taxation is theft, it's a legal theft. Just like bankruptcy is legalized theft. And so is welfare, instead of a gun, they use a ballot...
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: burgerbrain]
#22483328 - 11/05/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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look guys, i'm not saying that business owners don't work hard to build their business, and i'm not suggesting that we should all be paying a 100% tax rate. What i am saying is that NOBODY pulls themselves up by their own bootstraps. People who don't want to pay taxes because "they did all the hard work for that money" are a. incorrect b. selfish c. ignoring the many benefits that they reap from living in a place that has taxes
contributing to the society you live in is nothing like slavery. only an idiot really smart guy would suggest the comparison
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22483577 - 11/05/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: look guys, i'm not saying that business owners don't work hard to build their business, and i'm not suggesting that we should all be paying a 100% tax rate. What i am saying is that NOBODY pulls themselves up by their own bootstraps. People who don't want to pay taxes because "they did all the hard work for that money" are a. incorrect b. selfish c. ignoring the many benefits that they reap from living in a place that has taxes
contributing to the society you live in is nothing like slavery. only an idiot really smart guy would suggest the comparison
Actually myself and many people like me would do fine without libtards that limit freedom and steal from people using the legal theft system called taxes.
It's people like you that would starve without government.
"nobody pulls themselves up by their own bootstraps" I'm not sure why you think that if the shitmoron government didn't exist then people wouldn't help other people. Very naïve.
Have you ever helped your neighbor without government intervention?
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22483645 - 11/05/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Would you just block that asshole already? I'm trying to get this thread back on topic!
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22483675 - 11/05/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude quit talking about Ecstatic like that
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: burgerbrain] 1
#22484610 - 11/06/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude quit talking about Ecstatic like that
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#22487741 - 11/06/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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still waiting for reasons why we should make the most inefficient govt agency a bank...
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22487889 - 11/06/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Which agency are you referring to? The DMV?
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22488723 - 11/06/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: still waiting for reasons why we should make the (USPS) a bank...
It was in your own article! Lots of good reasons were given (thanks for posting that, by the way).
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22488740 - 11/06/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: still waiting for reasons why we should make the (USPS) a bank...
It was in your own article! Lots of good reasons were given (thanks for posting that, by the way).
Yeah HU, thanks for posting that. I may not have heard about it otherwise.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: burgerbrain]
#22494039 - 11/08/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: look guys, i'm not saying that business owners don't work hard to build their business, and i'm not suggesting that we should all be paying a 100% tax rate. What i am saying is that NOBODY pulls themselves up by their own bootstraps. People who don't want to pay taxes because "they did all the hard work for that money" are a. incorrect b. selfish c. ignoring the many benefits that they reap from living in a place that has taxes
contributing to the society you live in is nothing like slavery. only an idiot really smart guy would suggest the comparison
Actually myself and many people like me would do fine without libtards that limit freedom and steal from people using the legal theft system called taxes.
It's people like you that would starve without government.
"nobody pulls themselves up by their own bootstraps" I'm not sure why you think that if the shitmoron government didn't exist then people wouldn't help other people. Very naïve.
Have you ever helped your neighbor without government intervention?
Oh look, he ran way from this. Easy
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: burgerbrain]
#22494151 - 11/08/15 02:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess this thread is for a lost cause now since Bernie had to grovel before Hillary and sniff her butt during the first debate. It's pretty obvious they are playing 'It's Her Turn' no one else will be allowed to actually run....
Bernie has about as much chance of getting the nomination now as Obama does of turning Evangelical Republican.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: starfire_xes]
#22494318 - 11/08/15 05:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: I guess this thread is for a lost cause now since Bernie had to grovel before Hillary and sniff her butt during the first debate. It's pretty obvious they are playing 'It's Her Turn' no one else will be allowed to actually run....
Bernie has about as much chance of getting the nomination now as Obama does of turning Evangelical Republican.
I don't think that's the case. He's doing better than Obama was at this point in '08 against Hillary, and his voters are more enthusiastic and more likely to show up at the voting booth.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22494753 - 11/08/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: still waiting for reasons why we should make the (USPS) a bank...
It was in your own article! Lots of good reasons were given (thanks for posting that, by the way).
Yeah HU, thanks for posting that. I may not have heard about it otherwise.
wow, you support the guy and have no clue what he's planning, don't you research the candidates you support?
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