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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Cities like Boston and San Francisco have been established business centers for hundreds of years, it really has nothing to do with red or blue states, this argument makes no sense.
So has Richmond, Helena, St. Louis, Atlanta, Montgomery, Jackson, Kansas City ...
With the possible exception of Atlanta, which many consider fairly liberal, there's minimal innovation and it's hard to identify a single great american company known for technology and innovation from these cities that certainly had a long time to get it going.
Why did San Francisco and Silicon Valley become such a hotspot? Simple. Great liberal universities.
It's not just that simple, one is location, both cites are on the coast. Also, Boston, NYC, and SF had some of the earliest universities in the country, that makes them prestigious and highly desirable for talent.
And where did many companies set up shop, where there's a heavily populated area with lots of educated people, I'm not sure how "liberal universities" fits into that equation.
I lived and worked in one of the most affluent counties in NJ, it was the headquarters for many of the largest pharmaceutical companies on the globe, it was also a very conservative part of the state, I don't get your point.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22457659 - 10/31/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: Imagine for a moment if 40 years ago, American companies, including Microsoft, Allergen, Google, Apple, Facebook, Tesla, Netflix, Priceline, Uber, Oracle, Amgen, Twitter, HP, Adobe, Amazon, Celgene, Yahoo, Ebay, Electronic Arts, Expedia, Gilead, Intel, Qualcomm and many others from liberal hot spots had ...
NEVER HAPPENED? And, actually happened in OTHER COUNTRIES?
What would America be like today? How different would our country be without these huge magnets for revenues, jobs, innovation and competition that started in extremely liberal cities, for the most part?
Liberal hotspots, that birth great innovative companies have been powering America for decades ...
Innovation can take place anywhere in the world, is New Deli super liberal? I doubt it.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
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[/Sen. Bernie Sanders, the self-described democratic socialist currently running for the Democratic presidential nomination, says he has "serious problems" with car service company Uber because it's "unregulated."[/ quote]
https://reason.com/blog/2015/08/07/bernie-sanders-says-he-has-serious-probl?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattkibbe
It's funny that the liberals come up with all these great ideas, and then vote for idiots to regulate them out of existence, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER
LOL ... how many "liberals" do you think have actually cast even 1 vote for Bernie Sanders in their lives? Uber was born in San Francisco where they are embraced.
If Uber is pushed out of certain markets, you can be sure it WON'T be liberals pushing for this, it will be special interests (taxicab associations mostly) pushing this. Once again, illustrating that entrenched businesses resist innovation. You have a hard time understanding that. It's not a liberal vs conservative thing that you keep wanting to push to satisfy some thirst you have for liberal bashing ... it's entrenched interests vs upstarts. Upstarts just happen to come mostly from liberal places because that's where 95% of all innovation comes from. Conservative cities and states just typically aren't that innovative with the possible exception of Texas, mostly because of energy and the government stationing NASA there. Conservatives, by nature, tend to resist/fear change, are late stage adopters of new ideas and are resistant to moving to places where innovation and new thinking thrive.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
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Innovation can take place anywhere in the world, is New Deli super liberal? I doubt it.
Then why is the only notable company I can think of from states including Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Tennessee ...
Walmart? LMAO ... a company that led the charge to import the cheapest, poorest quality crap from China and put literally millions of locally based small businesses OUT OF BUSINESS so they could extract money from local economies and give it to globalist shareholders.
Smart, free thinking kids LEAVE these change resistant states for the same reason ... there's no opportunity for real innovation there.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Innovation can take place anywhere in the world, is New Deli super liberal? I doubt it.
Then why is the only notable company I can think of from states including Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Tennessee ...
Walmart? LMAO ... a company that led the charge to import the cheapest, poorest quality crap from China and put literally millions of locally based small businesses OUT OF BUSINESS so they could extract money from local economies and give it to globalist shareholders.
Smart, free thinking kids LEAVE these change resistant states for the same reason ... there's no opportunity for real innovation there.
Those are shitholes, what highly educated person is going to relocate there for some job when they can live in a nicer area of the country?
Look at Charlotte NC, many of the major banks moved down there 30 years ago, there really wasn't that much down there back then, today it's a growing modern city that attracts many companies and talented workers.
I don't think anyone would have called Charlotte a liberal city 30 years ago, even today some might have issue with it.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
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Innovation can take place anywhere in the world, is New Deli super liberal? I doubt it.
Then why is the only notable company I can think of from states including Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Tennessee ...
Walmart? LMAO ... a company that led the charge to import the cheapest, poorest quality crap from China and put literally millions of locally based small businesses OUT OF BUSINESS so they could extract money from local economies and give it to globalist shareholders.
Smart, free thinking kids LEAVE these change resistant states for the same reason ... there's no opportunity for real innovation there.
Those are shitholes, what highly educated person is going to relocate there for some job when they can live in a nicer area of the country?
Look at Charlotte NC, many of the major banks moved down there 30 years ago, there really wasn't that much down there back then, today it's a growing modern city that attracts many companies and talented workers.
I don't think anyone would have called Charlotte a liberal city 30 years ago, even today some might have issue with it.
I've heard from a few friends that Charlotte is actually quite a bit more liberal than people would think.
I guess I'm just curious what people think is the BEST EXAMPLE of a very conservative reasonably big city (>1 million??? ) that attracts great companies, has a thriving social and arts scene, good education/universities and is a very desirable place to live?
Just one??? Seriously, not trying to be a dick, but I can't think of even one and I travel a lot.
In terms of liberal places that fit that description, I could name 10 easily.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22457961 - 10/31/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is Manhattan liberal? Yes and no, if you don't have any money they will tell you to piss off.
Does a diverse city make it automatically liberal?
Does having a bunch of gay bars make it liberal?
I'm getting confused to what qualifies as liberal? I know people affiliated with academia think they're liberal, I've lived with those types of highly educated professionals and I can tell you that they think they're liberal, but in reality they aren't.
As long as they live in their nice affluent neighborhoods, go to their nice shopping centers and have their children attend very nice schools everything is just great, if they have to face any "outsiders" that changes that very nice environment, the attitude changes very quickly.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
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I agree with you. I was taking a course in real estate, and the instructor (who was conservative), told us that "cities with lots of gays tend to do best". He couldn't get himself to say that liberal cities do best. Neither can qman.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said: You can of course show me where I said you lied? While you're at it, show me where I called you a moocher.
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luvdemshrooms said: Too many spoiled little pukes with an over-inflated sense of entitlement.
Don't like what the upper class does? become one. Make the changes you seek in your company. Stop dictating what others do.
I am a business owner and have been for decades. Your complaints about a belief system are laughable to one who has been there/done that.
Really? You consider that an accusation of lying? So I can go on waiting.
You said "Your complaints about a belief system are laughable to one who has been there/done that". KauaiOrca corrected your ignorance by letting you know that he as been there done that. The wording in your statement to KO clearly implied that you thought he hadn't been there or done that, and that he was a moocher. He wasn't a moocher.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22458036 - 10/31/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe economic prosperity creates the "liberal vibe" as opposed the other way around.
Charlotte NC is a perfect example, before corporate America came into town, there was very little liberalism taking place.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
#22458231 - 10/31/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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fuck uber fuck lyft fuck airbnb fuck ordering dominos with an emoticon fuck self-checkout at the market(this one probably bothers me the most) fuck ordering drinks and food at restaurants with a tablet fuck drones fuck downloadable content for video games. what else? oh yeah, fuck ATMs (except third party machines maybe)
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22458323 - 10/31/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love self-checkout... but then again, I hate small talk, and dealing with people in general. Maybe I don't so much love self-checkout as I hate people.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22458409 - 10/31/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Innovation can take place anywhere in the world, is New Deli super liberal? I doubt it.
Then why is the only notable company I can think of from states including Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Tennessee ...
Walmart? LMAO ... a company that led the charge to import the cheapest, poorest quality crap from China and put literally millions of locally based small businesses OUT OF BUSINESS so they could extract money from local economies and give it to globalist shareholders.
Smart, free thinking kids LEAVE these change resistant states for the same reason ... there's no opportunity for real innovation there.
Those are shitholes, what highly educated person is going to relocate there for some job when they can live in a nicer area of the country?
Look at Charlotte NC, many of the major banks moved down there 30 years ago, there really wasn't that much down there back then, today it's a growing modern city that attracts many companies and talented workers.
I don't think anyone would have called Charlotte a liberal city 30 years ago, even today some might have issue with it.
I've heard from a few friends that Charlotte is actually quite a bit more liberal than people would think.
I guess I'm just curious what people think is the BEST EXAMPLE of a very conservative reasonably big city (>1 million??? ) that attracts great companies, has a thriving social and arts scene, good education/universities and is a very desirable place to live?
Just one??? Seriously, not trying to be a dick, but I can't think of even one and I travel a lot.
In terms of liberal places that fit that description, I could name 10 easily.
Lol, yeah, you can keep your liberal cities, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, gang violence, I'll take my middle America small town that at least have some morality and a sense of decency left.
I remember being a kid hearing the adults talk about how to devise ways to keep all the youth from leaving, even then, I didn't agree with that, I wanted my state to stay a rural state, big cities do have a lot to offer and I love visiting them, but I sure don't want to live in one, lol
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22458433 - 10/31/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol, yeah, you can keep your liberal cities, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, gang violence, I'll take my middle America small town that at least have some morality and a sense of decency left.
I remember being a kid hearing the adults talk about how to devise ways to keep all the youth from leaving, even then, I didn't agree with that, I wanted my state to stay a rural state, big cities do have a lot to offer and I love visiting them, but I sure don't want to live in one, lol
Why is it that now your anti liberal rallying cry always revolves around Chicago, Baltimore and Detroit? Those aren't the leading liberal cities in America ... not even close. Try San Francisco, Seattle, Berkeley, Boston, Palo Alto/Silicon Valley, NYC, Santa Barbara, N. Virginia, Bethesda, Denver/Boulder, San Diego, SoCal Beach communities ... Even in Chicago, most of the violence is confined to a relatively small part of the city
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Lol, yeah, you can keep your liberal cities, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, gang violence, I'll take my middle America small town that at least have some morality and a sense of decency left.
I remember being a kid hearing the adults talk about how to devise ways to keep all the youth from leaving, even then, I didn't agree with that, I wanted my state to stay a rural state, big cities do have a lot to offer and I love visiting them, but I sure don't want to live in one, lol
Why is it that now your anti liberal rallying cry always revolves around Chicago, Baltimore and Detroit? Those aren't the leading liberal cities in America ... not even close. Try San Francisco, Seattle, Berkeley, Boston, Palo Alto/Silicon Valley, NYC, Santa Barbara, N. Virginia, Bethesda, Denver/Boulder, San Diego, SoCal Beach communities ... Even in Chicago, most of the violence is confined to a relatively small part of the city
Chicago actually has very beautiful areas also.
I think Salt Lake City is pretty conservative, but I'm not entirely sure. That's a really nice place.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Lol, yeah, you can keep your liberal cities, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, gang violence, I'll take my middle America small town that at least have some morality and a sense of decency left.
I remember being a kid hearing the adults talk about how to devise ways to keep all the youth from leaving, even then, I didn't agree with that, I wanted my state to stay a rural state, big cities do have a lot to offer and I love visiting them, but I sure don't want to live in one, lol
Why is it that now your anti liberal rallying cry always revolves around Chicago, Baltimore and Detroit? Those aren't the leading liberal cities in America ... not even close. Try San Francisco, Seattle, Berkeley, Boston, Palo Alto/Silicon Valley, NYC, Santa Barbara, N. Virginia, Bethesda, Denver/Boulder, San Diego, SoCal Beach communities ... Even in Chicago, most of the violence is confined to a relatively small part of the city
Chicago actually has very beautiful areas also.
I think Salt Lake City is pretty conservative, but I'm not entirely sure. That's a really nice place.
Park City sure is.
Cracks me up how people that are always knocking liberal states and cities when you ask them for that one shining conservative city that's a great place to live ... lots of jobs and diverse, interesting companies, cultural stuff to do ... good location ... outdoors ... No one ever names one ... I mean if conservatism was some kind of magic elixir that electrifies the economy, generates lots of jobs and prosperity, then where's that city that exemplifies it? Just one????
The bottom line is, conservatism is primarily (but not entirely) a rural thing that works best when the population is not very diverse and church plays a big role in people's lives. Which is why so many conservatives are older white people. But in terms of conservatism being an engine for innovation and cultural diversity and the arts ... it just isn't.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Is Wall Street and The Beltway a liberal area? I mean making billions and then celebrating with coke and hookers could be considered a liberal way of life.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Don't like what the upper class does? become one. Make the changes you seek in your company. Stop dictating what others do.
I am a business owner and have been for decades. Your complaints about a belief system are laughable to one who has been there/done that.
Really? You consider that an accusation of lying? So I can go on waiting.
You said "Your complaints about a belief system are laughable to one who has been there/done that". KauaiOrca corrected your ignorance by letting you know that he as been there done that. The wording in your statement to KO clearly implied that you thought he hadn't been there or done that, and that he was a moocher. He wasn't a moocher.
Which is not the same as calling him a liar or a moocher, which is what I asked. Keep trying and failing.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
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NYC and inside the beltway are both considered liberal. Wall Street is a tiny, tiny, mostly commercial area of Downtown Manhattan, one of only 5 boroughs in NYC. The majority of people that work on Wall Street don't live there, they come in from other areas of NYC, Long Island and New Jersey.
Making lots of money and celebrating with wild sex and drugs (alcohol, coke, pills, you name it) has been an activity of the wealthiest for about as long as wealth has existed. It's not a liberal or conservative thing ... it's a wealth thing.
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