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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22334927 - 10/04/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's what I thought
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22335046 - 10/04/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Aides later said that Sanders believes that in certain cases, undocumented immigrants should be able to purchase health insurance through the exchanges set up under Obamacare, using their own money. The senator has not advocated allowing the undocumented immigrants to receive federal subsidies, his aides said.
Yeah, Bernie wants illegals to be able to pay for their own healthcare through the exchanges so they don't eat up OUR medicaid resources.
So evil. 
And how they hell are illegals going to afford their own health care insurance? Is this some type of joke? Even if they could afford some shitty plan with a $8000 deductible, someone else is going to pay for their care.
I'm sorry, but Bernie's plan makes no sense, grow a pair Bernie and deport them.
Bernie's plan is single payer.
If Bernie says illegals should be subsidized, you're outraged. If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged.

"If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged"
They CAN'T afford to pay for it themselves, that's the problem!
Guess who pays for it? US taxpayers, fuck that, we got too many poor people that need help, illegals need to be deported.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#22335051 - 10/04/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22335101 - 10/04/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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this thread needs a song about false dichotomies
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22335225 - 10/04/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: this thread needs a song about false dichotomies
This isn't even about dichotomies. I can have a perfectly reasonable discussion with most conservatives just fine, and have many times in this subforum. However, this slew of trolls with >100 posts that has showed up lately is quite obnoxious. I don't have the patience for civility when I'm speaking with mindless animals.
Not that it really matter either way.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
#22340090 - 10/06/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bernie's plan is single payer.
If Bernie says illegals should be subsidized, you're outraged. If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged.

"If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged"
They CAN'T afford to pay for it themselves, that's the problem!
Guess who pays for it? US taxpayers, fuck that, we got too many poor people that need help, illegals need to be deported.
That's why Bernie is opposed to ACA subsidies for illegals.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22340229 - 10/06/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bernie's plan is single payer.
If Bernie says illegals should be subsidized, you're outraged. If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged.

"If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged"
They CAN'T afford to pay for it themselves, that's the problem!
Guess who pays for it? US taxpayers, fuck that, we got too many poor people that need help, illegals need to be deported.
That's why Bernie is opposed to ACA subsidies for illegals.
Which really doesn't matter when they still get treated for free!!
BTW, from Bernie.
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_admits_he_initially_mishandled_black_lives_matter_i_plead_guilty_i_should_have_been_more_sensitive/
On BLM- "I plead guilty, I should have been more sensitive" 
It's nonsense like this stuff that's going to cost Bernie any chance of winning.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
#22340247 - 10/06/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's just lip service, and he needs the minority vote. Everyone with any sense knows Bernie has the best civil rights record of any candidate.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22340345 - 10/06/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bernie's plan is single payer.
If Bernie says illegals should be subsidized, you're outraged. If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged.

"If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged"
They CAN'T afford to pay for it themselves, that's the problem!
Guess who pays for it? US taxpayers, fuck that, we got too many poor people that need help, illegals need to be deported.
That's why Bernie is opposed to ACA subsidies for illegals.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22340354 - 10/06/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: That's just lip service, and he needs the minority vote. Everyone with any sense knows Bernie has the best civil rights record of any candidate.
Apologizing to a bunch of political thugs without justification does more harm than good, he's looking weak because of that fact. BLM's movement is a joke, he should treat it that way.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22340406 - 10/06/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: That's just lip service, and he needs the minority vote. Everyone with any sense knows Bernie has the best civil rights record of any candidate.
Apologizing to a bunch of political thugs without justification does more harm than good, he's looking weak because of that fact. BLM's movement is a joke, he should treat it that way.
Bernie is standing up the political establishment in every way imaginable. The last thing he's giving off is weakness.
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Bernie's plan is single payer.
If Bernie says illegals should be subsidized, you're outraged. If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged.

"If they pay for it themselves, you're outraged"
They CAN'T afford to pay for it themselves, that's the problem!
Guess who pays for it? US taxpayers, fuck that, we got too many poor people that need help, illegals need to be deported.
That's why Bernie is opposed to ACA subsidies for illegals.
Source?
You already posted the source in The 46th page of this thread.
What a moron.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22340412 - 10/06/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22340477 - 10/06/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I even quoted the exact excerpt for him
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22340629 - 10/06/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No where in that article does Bernie say he doesn't support subsidies for illegals, He has not came right out endorsed them, but that's not the same, is it?
Fact is, his aides can say whatever they want, they're not running...
And what's up with all the personal attacks? Can you honestly not debate without resorting to pettiness?
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22340807 - 10/06/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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His aides represent him. They're there to promote his agenda when he's not in the room.
Do you honestly believe his aides would lie to the press about his message, causing a scandal akin to "Bernie clashes with own campaign staff, can't even get message straight" ??
Once again you take the oversimplified explanation and then complain when people don't want to spoonfeed you information and debate with kiddie gloves.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22340815 - 10/06/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Aides later said that Sanders believes that in certain cases, undocumented immigrants should be able to purchase health insurance through the exchanges set up under Obamacare, using their own money. The senator has not advocated allowing the undocumented immigrants to receive federal subsidies, his aides said.
Yeah, Bernie wants illegals to be able to pay for their own healthcare through the exchanges so they don't eat up OUR medicaid resources.
So evil. :roll eyes:
oh his aides "said"??? fact is once you make them eligible for obamacare, they would by default be eligible for the subsidies, you really think that a liberal socialist is gonna exclude anyone from the social "safety net"? they'll bring out the women and children excuse and the taxpayers will get the bill... Ive seen this before, yes, thats exactly what they'll do...
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You make the same lazy attempt to discredit YOUR OWN SOURCE as you did two pages ago, simply because you realized your smear didn't stand up to scrutiny, even with your own evidence.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22340819 - 10/06/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah I even quoted the exact excerpt for him 
Reminds me of a couple days ago when one of the three stooges here posted that article on Net Neutrality that went entirely against his argument, and referenced it in an arrogant asshole way, as if it supported his argument! Lol
And then I get posts about my 'poor reading comprehension' lmao
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
#22340824 - 10/06/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: That's just lip service, and he needs the minority vote. Everyone with any sense knows Bernie has the best civil rights record of any candidate.
Apologizing to a bunch of political thugs without justification does more harm than good, he's looking weak because of that fact. BLM's movement is a joke, he should treat it that way.
I agree. He should just leave the BLM issue alone.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22340864 - 10/06/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah I even quoted the exact excerpt for him 
Reminds me of a couple days ago when one of the three stooges here posted that article on Net Neutrality that went entirely against his argument, and referenced it in an arrogant asshole way, as if it supported his argument! Lol
And then I get posts about my 'poor reading comprehension' lmao
sounds about right
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