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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22198228 - 09/06/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, but what that also means is that Bernie isnt actually trailing Clinton nearly as closely as the polls make it appear. However, the skewed polls make Bernie look like he is further along than he really is, which will boost confidence in him, which is a real issue he has.
I am curious if they will stop putting Biden in suddenly, and Hillarys numbers shoot back up, and then they will act as though she's surging against Sanders. That could possibly kill his campaign. Especially if it is after some big policy announcement she makes, to make it look like she's garnering more support for legitimate positions.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22198466 - 09/06/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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From what I've seen, Biden supporters favor Bernie to Hillary at roughly 4:3
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22199341 - 09/06/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It will be interesting to see if that ratio remains unchanged when (if) Biden declares his candidacy. I see many potential Biden supporters being reluctant to switch camps until his candidacy is a sure thing.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22199486 - 09/06/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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BoldAsLove said: It will be interesting to see if that ratio remains unchanged when (if) Biden declares his candidacy. I see many potential Biden supporters being reluctant to switch camps until his candidacy is a sure thing.
I have doubts as to whether he will actually jump in anyway. Biden seems more concerned about Bernie than Hillary though. Didn't Bidens son die within the past year, or something like that?
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22199498 - 09/06/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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BoldAsLove said: It will be interesting to see if that ratio remains unchanged when (if) Biden declares his candidacy. I see many potential Biden supporters being reluctant to switch camps until his candidacy is a sure thing.
I doubt Biden gets in until Hillary's out. He probably has advance notice of what's going to happen so he's getting ready.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22199500 - 09/06/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think that remark was just Biden being Biden, not him saying that Sanders is more of a threat than Clinton or that Sanders is doing better. I think he is concerned about both Clinton and Sanders. His son did recently die and I also am not sure whether he will actually run, but he does seem to be seriously considering it.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22199511 - 09/06/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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BoldAsLove said: It will be interesting to see if that ratio remains unchanged when (if) Biden declares his candidacy. I see many potential Biden supporters being reluctant to switch camps until his candidacy is a sure thing.
I doubt Biden gets in until Hillary's out. He probably has advance notice of what's going to happen so he's getting ready.
Do you believe Clinton will drop out? She doesn't have much reason to at this point.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22199533 - 09/06/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I honestly dont know much about Biden. I know he said he's not a populist, which in my mind means he's a corporatist, but maybe I am misunderstanding that statement. I know that he's kind of a dunce sometimes, and that he's the VP. Thats it.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22199860 - 09/06/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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BoldAsLove said: It will be interesting to see if that ratio remains unchanged when (if) Biden declares his candidacy. I see many potential Biden supporters being reluctant to switch camps until his candidacy is a sure thing.
I doubt Biden gets in until Hillary's out. He probably has advance notice of what's going to happen so he's getting ready.
Do you believe Clinton will drop out? She doesn't have much reason to at this point.
I think she'll be forced out. This scandal is just getting worse. Her numbers will keep coming down and if the IT guy gets an immunity deal, it's probably all over for her.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22199944 - 09/06/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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BoldAsLove said: It will be interesting to see if that ratio remains unchanged when (if) Biden declares his candidacy. I see many potential Biden supporters being reluctant to switch camps until his candidacy is a sure thing.
I doubt Biden gets in until Hillary's out. He probably has advance notice of what's going to happen so he's getting ready.
Do you believe Clinton will drop out? She doesn't have much reason to at this point.
I think she'll be forced out. This scandal is just getting worse. Her numbers will keep coming down and if the IT guy gets an immunity deal, it's probably all over for her.
It looked, from what I saw, that they were trying to rope the white house into culpability somehow for permitting her to use a private email, or somehing along those lines. If they could get enough politicians on the chopping block, this thing would vanish pretty damn fast.
If she drops out after the first debate Biden wont be in. It will be a coronation after all! Of Bernie Sanders! Lmao
If that happened, this election would be legendary!
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22199982 - 09/06/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hope so, but this scandal still isn't that bad. She was permitted to use a private server, she was just an idiot and sent potentially classified information over it. Unless the FBI opens a formal investigation specifically against her based on something they find on the server, I don't think this scandal is anywhere near bad enough to force her out of the race yet. I can't remember what poll I saw (I think it was the DesMoines Register poll in Iowa) that said that 61% of likely voters in that state didn't think the email scandal was a big deal.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22200024 - 09/06/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the real issue came when she wiped the server.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22200330 - 09/07/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: I think the real issue came when she wiped the server.
You mean like with a cloth or something. 
But yes, I agree, that her decision is troubling.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22200447 - 09/07/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lmao! I can't believe she made that lame ass joke! She truly is lacking in the whit department. I would love to see how Bill would handle this shit. I think Bill Clinton could talk his way out of virtually anything.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22200497 - 09/07/15 02:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bill Clinton, as much as I am not a huge fan of him, is a very smooth talker. Hillary Clinton seems to be smooth only when she has time to prepare her statements. She's not great at thinking on her feet, because she doesn't really understand ordinary people and their problems. That's why I'm hoping the DNC finally gives up and schedules more debates.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22200554 - 09/07/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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BoldAsLove said: Bill Clinton, as much as I am not a huge fan of him, is a very smooth talker. Hillary Clinton seems to be smooth only when she has time to prepare her statements. She's not great at thinking on her feet, because she doesn't really understand ordinary people and their problems. That's why I'm hoping the DNC finally gives up and schedules more debates.
For sure. Hillary looks as though she's studied how to conduct her own body rigorously. She does a hypnotic type nod and smile, even while being asked hardball questions. She's very controlled. It looks like everything comes out through her eyes though. Her eyes open very wide when she talks, which is kind of funny, because in terms of human body language that's considered a sign of aggression and even madness. Maybe I am the only one who thinks that about her, but she seems like she's very well practiced at all of this.
I'm not just trying to trash talk. It creeps me out though, honestly. She seems disingenuous on every level to me. Next time you watch her pay attention to her body language. It is strikingly odd to me.
I remember when Bill had his affair deal, and he said 'I did not have sexual relations...' there was a lot of attention paid to the fact that he always said 'did not' instead of 'didn't', because supposedly people are less inclined to use contractions when they're lying. I don't know if you buy into that stuff, but Hillary does the same thing when fielding these email questions.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22201126 - 09/07/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: I think the real issue came when she wiped the server.
Bingo. That's going to lead to an obstruction charge. Also, there are conflict of interest investigations, possible changing of classified documents to make them unmarked for her server, if they find the server files somewhere else there will be destruction of evidence.
Way too many loose ends for her to survive this.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca] 1
#22201255 - 09/07/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I still think that believing Hillary will be charged, or even forced out of the race, is incredibly naive.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22201495 - 09/07/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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BoldAsLove said: Bill Clinton, as much as I am not a huge fan of him, is a very smooth talker. Hillary Clinton seems to be smooth only when she has time to prepare her statements. She's not great at thinking on her feet, because she doesn't really understand ordinary people and their problems. That's why I'm hoping the DNC finally gives up and schedules more debates.
For sure. Hillary looks as though she's studied how to conduct her own body rigorously. She does a hypnotic type nod and smile, even while being asked hardball questions. She's very controlled. It looks like everything comes out through her eyes though. Her eyes open very wide when she talks, which is kind of funny, because in terms of human body language that's considered a sign of aggression and even madness. Maybe I am the only one who thinks that about her, but she seems like she's very well practiced at all of this.
I'm not just trying to trash talk. It creeps me out though, honestly. She seems disingenuous on every level to me. Next time you watch her pay attention to her body language. It is strikingly odd to me.
I remember when Bill had his affair deal, and he said 'I did not have sexual relations...' there was a lot of attention paid to the fact that he always said 'did not' instead of 'didn't', because supposedly people are less inclined to use contractions when they're lying. I don't know if you buy into that stuff, but Hillary does the same thing when fielding these email questions.
I remember talking about that Bill thing in my high school sociology class, and very carefully analyzing the statement. Hillary is just very focus grouped. She knows what people want because she's spent millions figuring it out. To me she seems like a robot, just following a list of commands. It doesn't creep me out though, most politicians strike me like that.
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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22201497 - 09/07/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I still think that believing Hillary will be charged, or even forced out of the race, is incredibly naive.
I think it's just wishful thinking. Unless there's a major revelation in the case, nothing is going to happen to her.
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