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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22146093 - 08/26/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The problem is they are happy to keep it in other countries and spend it elsewhere. We do need to reform the laws and obumble certainly isn't going to help us any. When will people finally realize the media and their stories are bogus?


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22146135 - 08/26/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The problem is they are happy to keep it in other countries and spend it elsewhere. We do need to reform the laws and obumble certainly isn't going to help us any. When will people finally realize the media and their stories are bogus?




But Obama already promised the Earth, Moon and Stars, where's our utopia? 

How are the "disadvantaged" minorities doing after 7 years of Obama?  Worse than before.  :rofl2:


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
    #22146187 - 08/26/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We need to start classifying these tax shelter games as acts of war.  Then, we just do to these corporate entities the same as we did to Japan, Iran, Osama bin Laden, etc.  Sieze their shit. freeze it all.  Wanna fuck over the American economy?  GTFO and good riddance.  Let it be a lesson to the next guy.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22146320 - 08/26/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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>Its because Bernie Sanders is against the status quo, and Trump is their wet dream.

Trump is more against the status quo than Bernie.

>The media will always try to stifle the candidate who is for the people. They will turn Trump into a superstar.

They have been knocking trump since he started and you ate it up. You are the one without the slightest clue.




Coverage is key. The media ignores people who challenge the status quo (Think Ron Paul). They've been covering Trumo non-stop, and he's received a lot of benefit from that.

I literally just saw an interview about the Hillary emails, where he lady said,"If Hillary gets knocked out of the race, then who will run for the Democrats? They don't have a single alternative? Maybe Biden will have to run"... not even mentioning Bernie, and acting like he doesnt exist. That's how the media handles candidates that stand for real change.




I was watching that interview in the customer lounge at work and it took the strength of a thousand wildebeests to calmly stand up and walk away.




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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22147045 - 08/26/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It must have been something sensible, lol.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22147342 - 08/26/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It must have been something sensible, lol.




Hmm, I guess by your standards pretending there isnt even anyone in the D race but Hillary is sensible.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22148080 - 08/26/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Now I see, your favorite boy was slighted and you were furious. Who cares what some chump said? Trump doesn't care, he does not follow the media begging for ink or air time or favorable comments, they follow him begging for quotes.

Both our horses are a bit of a long shot, yours because of being an outsider, mine for the same reason and not being pc which draws the fury of the babbling heads. If we can just bury bitchlary then we can talk about which of our guys will take it.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22148188 - 08/26/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just about everyone I know is getting out and voting in the primaries. I think the main stream media strategy of pretending Bernie doesn't exist is going to fail.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22148221 - 08/26/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've seen almost as many articles on Bernie as trump, and they were all positive compared to the negs about trump. Pretending he doesn't exist? lol.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22148274 - 08/26/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've seen almost as many articles on Bernie as trump, and they were all positive compared to the negs about trump. Pretending he doesn't exist? lol.




About a month ago I told my mom about Bernie Sanders. She watching all the mainstream news stations all the fucking time, but doesn't get news from the internet at all. She had never fucking heard of him. She knew all about Donald Trump, but she didn't even know who Bernie was!

Bernie isn't getting NEARLY the same coverage as Trump. In fact, Hillary isn't getting the kind of coverage Trump is. Nobody is. Look, publicity is publicity. If they really despised Trump, they would pretend he didn't exist, as they did with Paul and Sanders. That's what they do with non-status quo candidates.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22148296 - 08/26/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Your mom? lol. I'm going by what I read in the local papers. Trump got more coverage but Bernie got a lot too

You have to understand trump is a master of publicity. Why do you think his towers sell out right away at hugely inflated prices? Why do people pay good money to put his name on a project? The media can no more ignore him than they can ignore china or the stock market crash.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22148297 - 08/26/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22148428 - 08/26/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Your mom? lol. I'm going by what I read in the local papers. Trump got more coverage but Bernie got a lot too

You have to understand trump is a master of publicity. Why do you think his towers sell out right away at hugely inflated prices? Why do people pay good money to put his name on a project? The media can no more ignore him than they can ignore china or the stock market crash.




Going by what you read in the papers? What is that exactly? Did they tell you Trump and Sanders are getting the same coverage? Do you get all of your opinions from newspapers?

The second half of your argument actually makes my point.

By the way, the media most certainly could ignore Trump or whoever else they wanted to ignore. You can make as many excuses for him as you like, which I know you will.

They love him, he's their wet dream, because he's status quo as fuck, dude.

Regardless, this thread is about Bernie. Not some child with a golden hairpiece who went to 'Wharton which is like, you know, where really really smart people go'. Yes, that's a direct almost quote from the man himself. Fucking idiot! :facepalm:

Trump cares about his ego and his image. Bernie cares about his constituents.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22148505 - 08/26/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You are losing it woofles. I rarely see you this incoherent.

>Going by what you read in the papers? What is that exactly?

Its a bunch of sheets of paper with stuff printed on it. It has news and such.

>Did they tell you Trump and Sanders are getting the same coverage?

I noticed how much coverage each got and I did not say it was the same.

>Do you get all of your opinions from newspapers?

If I did I would believe like you do. They are liberal as crap, you aught to pick one up and read it.

>By the way, the media most certainly could ignore Trump or whoever else they wanted to ignore.

They could close up shop too, but they aren't going to. They cover what is popular and what the other media covers. Quit whining and go out and do something if you want to make a difference.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22148606 - 08/26/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You are losing it woofles. I rarely see you this incoherent.

>Going by what you read in the papers? What is that exactly?

Its a bunch of sheets of paper with stuff printed on it. It has news and such.




Sorry, I'll spoon feed that question to you. What is it exactly that you've read in the papers that led you to your conclusions?

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>Did they tell you Trump and Sanders are getting the same coverage?

I noticed how much coverage each got and I did not say it was the same.




Fair enough, you said close to the same. It's not even close.

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>Do you get all of your opinions from newspapers?

If I did I would believe like you do. They are liberal as crap, you aught to pick one up and read it.




I mostly get my news from the internet. I don't recall papers being especially liberal, but to you not being a racist is 'liberal'.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22149186 - 08/26/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've seen almost as many articles on Bernie as trump, and they were all positive compared to the negs about trump. Pretending he doesn't exist? lol.




Not sure what news sources you are looking at, but Sanders isn't getting nearly the same coverage. Here are the numbers of mentions each candidate has in the title of an article from the front political page of some major news sources right now.

NYT: Trump - 6 Sanders - 1
WSJ: Trump - 7 Sanders - 1
WashPost: Trump - 4 Sanders - 2
BostonGlobe: Trump - 5 Sanders - 1
CNN: Trump - 21 (has his own section) Sanders - 2
Fox News: Trump - 11 Sanders - 0

But as you say, Trump is a master of garnering media attention. But to say that Sanders and Trump are receiving the same, or close to the same, amount of attention is wrong.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #22149975 - 08/27/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

At a recent conference on global economic change, Sanders nailed it ... again ....

"Over 70 years ago, the major economic leaders of 44 countries gathered at a hotel in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, to establish international economic and financial rules. As a result of that conference, the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank were established. I think it is clear to anyone who has taken a look at this situation that the rules regarding our international financial system today are rigged in favor of the wealthy and the powerful at the expense of everyone else. Today, 85 of the wealthiest people in this world own more wealth than the bottom half of the world’s population, over 3 billion people. By next year, Oxfam has estimated that the top 1 percent of the world’s population will own more wealth than the bottom 99 percent of the world’s population. In my view, we have got to begin—and I hope this forum today is a start in that process—a serious discussion about how we change our international financial rules to expand—expand economic opportunity and reduce income and wealth inequality, not only in Greece and in Puerto Rico, but throughout the world. The global economy is simply unsustainable when so few have so much and so many have so little."

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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #22150032 - 08/27/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Woof, liberals are the racists. In your twisted world, you think those who want equal rights are racist. As for equal coverage, you are whining about trump getting knocked relentlessly like you want the same thing for sanders. Maybe sanders gets less coverage but that is far from ignoring him and all his press seems to be positive.

I already asked if you wanted more attack articles against sanders like trump gets all the time. You would go ballistic if that happened so why be jealous of trump? I'm not sure I've seen even one positive article on trump.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22150211 - 08/27/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Plenty of racially motivated voters on both sides of the aisle.  Anyone that can't see this is blinded by the party pushing pom poms they're swinging. 

If you think those old crusty FOX watching white voters aren't racially motivated, you're an imbecile.  And if you don't realize that the black mobs rioting in the streets are racist as well, you're equally clueless.  There are racist Asians and Latinos as well.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22150447 - 08/27/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There are racist Asians




I dated a Japanese girl once. (like Fresh off the Boat Japanese) Her Dad hated me.  I mean, he didn't hate me in particular, he just hated the fact that his daughter wasn't interested in Japanese boys.  I was always super-polite, but even after years, he just didn't like his daughter being with a white guy.


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