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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22122758 - 08/21/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Over Obama? I might have, though I tend to write my own name in when both candidates suck as badly as they have recently.

Perhaps though, before worrying about silly comments from others, you should man up and stop making them.




You talking about "manning up" ... :lmafo:  Now that is FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22122767 - 08/21/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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And what Stonehedge does is of no interest to me. There's no double teaming going on.




You two are like siamese twins.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
    #22122820 - 08/21/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>One of the major beneficiaries of the nation's food-stamp program is actually a hugely profitable company: Walmart.

Your post saying wm receives 14B in food stamps is lacking a few details.

"Americans spend about 18 percent of all food stamp dollars at Walmart, according to company estimates told to the Wall Street Journal and confirmed by The Huffington Post. That's about $14 billion"

Americans spend 14b, walmart workers don't receive that much.

I agree it would be much better if we were able to make products cheaply enough in this country so that china can't dump its crap on us. However, obumble has not imposed the tariffs that would level the playing field, neither has he removed the incentives to offshore production. And of course he not only does nothing about the illegals but in fact encourages them.

Fish, what is your answer to my reply to your latest blow hard offer? If I give you the name of a lawyer will you send him $1k? Or will you come up with more strings?


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22122838 - 08/21/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Stonehenge said:
>One of the major beneficiaries of the nation's food-stamp program is actually a hugely profitable company: Walmart.

Your post saying wm receives 14B in food stamps is lacking a few details.

"Americans spend about 18 percent of all food stamp dollars at Walmart, according to company estimates told to the Wall Street Journal and confirmed by The Huffington Post. That's about $14 billion"

Americans spend 14b, walmart workers don't receive that much.

I agree it would be much better if we were able to make products cheaply enough in this country so that china can't dump its crap on us. However, obumble has not imposed the tariffs that would level the playing field, neither has he removed the incentives to offshore production. And of course he not only does nothing about the illegals but in fact encourages them.

Fish, what is your answer to my reply to your latest blow hard offer? If I give you the name of a lawyer will you send him $1k? Or will you come up with more strings?




Are you giving the name of a lawyer with the intention of taking the bet?  If so, give me the name, I'll contact the lawyer, verify his credibility, we'll put together a simple contract to define exactly what the bet is (we know the criteria already) you sign it, I sign it we both wire  the $5,000 to attorney and he makes the final call and keeps both identities secret.  Simple deal.  You a gamer?  I pay the attorney directly for his fee.  I'm not sure what the $1000 is for?  I'll just pay the attorney directly.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22122854 - 08/21/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
Quote:

Stonehenge said:
>One of the major beneficiaries of the nation's food-stamp program is actually a hugely profitable company: Walmart.

Your post saying wm receives 14B in food stamps is lacking a few details.

"Americans spend about 18 percent of all food stamp dollars at Walmart, according to company estimates told to the Wall Street Journal and confirmed by The Huffington Post. That's about $14 billion"

Americans spend 14b, walmart workers don't receive that much.

I agree it would be much better if we were able to make products cheaply enough in this country so that china can't dump its crap on us. However, obumble has not imposed the tariffs that would level the playing field, neither has he removed the incentives to offshore production. And of course he not only does nothing about the illegals but in fact encourages them.

Fish, what is your answer to my reply to your latest blow hard offer? If I give you the name of a lawyer will you send him $1k? Or will you come up with more strings?




Are you giving the name of a lawyer with the intention of taking the bet?  If so, give me the name, I'll contact the lawyer, verify his credibility, we'll put together a simple contract to define exactly what the bet is (we know the criteria already) you sign it, I sign it we both wire  the $5,000 to attorney and he makes the final call and keeps both identities secret.  Simple deal.  You a gamer?  I pay the attorney directly for his fee.  I'm not sure what the $1000 is for?  I'll just pay the attorney directly.



This bet sounds pretty pointless.  No offense to you, Orca.  I just dont know what it will achieve.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: WAN]
    #22122860 - 08/21/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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WAN said:
are you a gemini




Nope. We don't follow astrology here on Alpha Centauri. Why do you?


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22122869 - 08/21/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
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luvdemshrooms said:

Over Obama? I might have, though I tend to write my own name in when both candidates suck as badly as they have recently.

Perhaps though, before worrying about silly comments from others, you should man up and stop making them.




You talking about "manning up" ... :lmafo:  Now that is FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Yup. I am. Seeing as you feel money makes you feel more studly, it's good advice. I don't need to compare dick size. Apparently, you do.

Work on your self esteem. You'll feel better.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22122871 - 08/21/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:

And what Stonehedge does is of no interest to me. There's no double teaming going on.




You two are like siamese twins.




Then he's a lucky man.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: WAN]
    #22122876 - 08/21/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This bet sounds pretty pointless.  No offense to you, Orca.  I just dont know what it will achieve.




It'll save him one blue pill.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22122892 - 08/21/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Work on your self esteem. You'll feel better.




Let's all welcome Dr. Phil to our forum.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22122897 - 08/21/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think he'd fit in. I do suspect he'd find your lack of self esteem interesting.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22122922 - 08/21/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Stonehenge said:
>One of the major beneficiaries of the nation's food-stamp program is actually a hugely profitable company: Walmart.

Your post saying wm receives 14B in food stamps is lacking a few details.

"Americans spend about 18 percent of all food stamp dollars at Walmart, according to company estimates told to the Wall Street Journal and confirmed by The Huffington Post. That's about $14 billion"

Americans spend 14b, walmart workers don't receive that much.

I agree it would be much better if we were able to make products cheaply enough in this country so that china can't dump its crap on us. However, obumble has not imposed the tariffs that would level the playing field, neither has he removed the incentives to offshore production. And of course he not only does nothing about the illegals but in fact encourages them.

Fish, what is your answer to my reply to your latest blow hard offer? If I give you the name of a lawyer will you send him $1k? Or will you come up with more strings?




Yes, it's Wal-Mart customers that spend that much with food stamps at their stores.  In many poor areas around the country, it's a huge source of revenue for those stores. The modern day "soup kitchen" in 2015, sad but true.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
    #22122939 - 08/21/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If the people didn't want Walmart's, there'd be no Walmart's. At least, not for long.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
    #22122974 - 08/21/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes, it's Wal-Mart customers that spend that much with food stamps at their stores.  In many poor areas around the country, it's a huge source of revenue for those stores. The modern day "soup kitchen" in 2015, sad but true.




There are full time wal mart employees that qualify for food stamps. 

How any CEO of a Fortune 20 making company (making >30 million a year) can go to sleep knowing that thousands of their full time employees are living in poverty on government assistance is beyond me even when they're making record profits. 

What's even stranger is how many people, even on these threads, defend them.  That's just sheer insanity.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22122980 - 08/21/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:

Yes, it's Wal-Mart customers that spend that much with food stamps at their stores.  In many poor areas around the country, it's a huge source of revenue for those stores. The modern day "soup kitchen" in 2015, sad but true.




There are full time wal mart employees that qualify for food stamps. 

How any CEO of a Fortune 20 making company (making >30 million a year) can go to sleep knowing that thousands of their full time employees are living in poverty on government assistance is beyond me even when they're making record profits. 

What's even stranger is how many people, even on these threads, defend them.  That's just sheer insanity.




Clearly the internet (and reading ability) is beyond your limited capabilities. I said no such thing.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
    #22122981 - 08/21/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>Yes, it's Wal-Mart customers that spend that much with food stamps at their stores.  In many poor areas around the country, it's a huge source of revenue for those stores. The modern day "soup kitchen" in 2015, sad but true.

Do you begrudge people the right to spend their money and food stamps where they wish? When you are poor you don't care about abstract economic theories, you care about making your limited resources stretch a little farther.

Orca, you have once again muddied the waters. Lets take a look at your latest babble

>give me the name, I'll contact the lawyer, verify his credibility, we'll put together a simple contract to define exactly what the bet is (we know the criteria already) you sign it, I sign it we both wire  the $5,000 to attorney and he makes the final call and keeps both identities secret.  Simple deal.  You a gamer?  I pay the attorney directly for his fee.  I'm not sure what the $1000 is for?  I'll just pay the attorney directly.

What exactly have we agreed to on the criteria? I don't recall agreeing to anything. I see you put the part about paying the lawyer after we sign the agreement, which has not been discussed in any detail yet, and after we both send him 5k. So you want me to do a lot of things, risk my time and money and then wait and hope you do your end? You are putting the cart before the horse. For someone who claims to be a big time businessman, you would not last a day in the world of business.

Explain exactly what you want in this agreement, I can use the lol. How about you pick a lawyer, send him his fee, and then we do the rest? Assuming of course you don't throw in more deal killers which of course you will.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22122994 - 08/21/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If the people didn't want Walmart's, there'd be no Walmart's. At least, not for long.




Which is exactly why we need more leaders to stand up against predatory capitalism because corporations have so much more power, advertising strength and ability to buy off the process.   

So it's OK to "give the customers what they want" even if it destroys the country?  :facepalm:

When America was formed, a Corporation had to get a charter that had a 5-10 year time limit on it and they had to prove they would operate in the public's best interest.  That's was the vision and LIMITS that were placed on corporations back then.

Since then, money hijacked the system and convinced corporate puppies like you to defend them.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22122999 - 08/21/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I see you are dodging my questions. Now this

>When America was formed, a Corporation had to get a charter that had a 5-10 year time limit on it and they had to prove they would operate in the public's best interest.

Link?


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22123004 - 08/21/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Our leaders have no business telling people where to shop. If people want it, companies should be allowed to provide it.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22123014 - 08/21/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I see you are dodging my questions. Now this

>When America was formed, a Corporation had to get a charter that had a 5-10 year time limit on it and they had to prove they would operate in the public's best interest.

Link?




Very well known history and you could find 100's of links with a simple google search of "history of american corporations" but here's the first one that came up that's written at a level you could understand. 

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate-accountability-history-corporations-us/

The best source for the attitude toward corporations in the early days of America, by far, however, is John Adams.  He wrote eloquently and prolifically about it.  Get educated.


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