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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
    #22112260 - 08/19/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So, rather than rebut the plan point by point, you prefer unsubstantiated blanket statements?

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You don't mix a developed economy with a third world economy, it turns everything into shit.




tell that to the germans

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No, I don't like flooding our country and economy with tens of millions of poor, unskilled, non-English speaking people.




and yet, that is already happening, with no clear solution in sight.  But, if we embraced them all(mexicans) as citizens, we would, overnight, gain the ability to regulate their gov't thereby greatly reducing the impetus for the immigration that you are opposed to. in other words, if mexico has the same minimum wage as the U.S. there is a lot less reason to move.

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Who's going to pay for all of their needs?




Thats the beauty of it. They are.  Mexico sucks because of the poor stewardship of their corrupt Gov't, not because of any inherent geographic or racially based suckiness.  Mexico is replete with natural resources just like the rest of North America.  Their entrenched elite just happen to give even less fucks about the mexican people than ours do for us.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22112316 - 08/19/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KO says
>and Stonehenge.  He doesn't even know that businesses pay state taxes in states they are not located in

Yes, they may pay some taxes but not income taxes. How much tax does amazon pay? In most states, none. In those it has a warehouse, it collects and pays sales taxes. It does not pay income taxes to each  state it sells in. If you had the slightest clue you would give a link to the law you claim to be following. It doesn't exist.

As for your bogus bet with lds, first of all he would have to do work on his end to pick a lawyer. Then wait for you to come through with the money you spoke of. The money of course would never come, you would complain about something and say he didn't do it right. We've seen your kind of act before many times. Then he is stuck trying to explain to the  lawyer that the guy he made a bet with is full of crap. LDS already knows you are full of it. He is not going to waste his time. Why would a lawyer cooperate with some scheme like that anyway? Gambling is illegal in most states.

KO, you are so heavily invested in your story that your pride would never recover if you were forced to back down or admit you were bs'ing. I have pointed out many  flaws in your story and your response is to say you don't want to talk to me anymore. That is what we would expect from a small child, not a business man as you claim to be. What was that business again? The general part of the economy would be a start. You can't even name that.

It is kind of amusing. Flounder around some more for us.




I say we make Enlil the lawyer here... but don't pay him too much, he's been attacking my campaign for shroomery president, which is bad for everyone.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22112345 - 08/19/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I dont think its possible to not like Mexicans... or at least senioritas.. mmm




I'll SECOND that one.  Been married to a latina (South America) for a long time.  They're the best.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22112393 - 08/19/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
So, rather than rebut the plan point by point, you prefer unsubstantiated blanket statements?

Quote:

You don't mix a developed economy with a third world economy, it turns everything into shit.




tell that to the germans

Quote:

No, I don't like flooding our country and economy with tens of millions of poor, unskilled, non-English speaking people.




and yet, that is already happening, with no clear solution in sight.  But, if we embraced them all(mexicans) as citizens, we would, overnight, gain the ability to regulate their gov't thereby greatly reducing the impetus for the immigration that you are opposed to. in other words, if mexico has the same minimum wage as the U.S. there is a lot less reason to move.

Quote:

Who's going to pay for all of their needs?




Thats the beauty of it. They are.  Mexico sucks because of the poor stewardship of their corrupt Gov't, not because of any inherent geographic or racially based suckiness.  Mexico is replete with natural resources just like the rest of North America.  Their entrenched elite just happen to give even less fucks about the mexican people than ours do for us.




"tell that to the Germans"

Explain.

"if Mexico had the same minimum wage as the US"

:facepalm: That's never going to happen, talk about a pipedream.

"Mexico sucks because...of their corrupt Gov't"

It's only one of the reasons why they suck, there's a very long list of reason why they suck, it's not just the fault of their leaders.

"Mexico is replete with natural resources"

Not really, most of the oil in unrecoverable.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Mexico


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! *DELETED* [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22112394 - 08/19/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22112411 - 08/19/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
Quote:

Bigbadwooof said:

I dont think its possible to not like Mexicans... or at least senioritas.. mmm




I'll SECOND that one.  Been married to a latina (South America) for a long time.  They're the best.




Lmao! Yeah, you know what I'm talkin about. I think we should only open the boarders to Mexican women. Before you know it, every American will have a year round tan! It will be sexy!


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22112437 - 08/19/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fact is, some are too smart to trust you.

Yet, I don't suppose you'll get it this time either.

Please continue... :popcorn:


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22112547 - 08/19/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Fact is, some are too smart to trust you.

Yet, I don't suppose you'll get it this time either.

Please continue... :popcorn:




He's not asking you to trust him.

Fact is, some don't have 5 grand to throw on silly bets. You can say it bro. I don't have 5k to throw on bets either! I gave up gambling years ago because of that little factoid!

Trust can't really be the issue here... Stoney and I both know eachother's name/address, and despite our differences, I'm quite positive neither of us would ever be any sort of threat to one another!


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! *DELETED* [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22112570 - 08/19/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22112595 - 08/19/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Fact is, some are too smart to trust you.

Yet, I don't suppose you'll get it this time either.

Please continue... :popcorn:




Just accept it ... you're a chicken shit. That's OK, most others here on the thread see that.  There's really no trust needed.  If you were indeed a business owner you'd know how easy this is to do. Contract is dead simple.  We both send $$$ to YOUR attorney.  Your Attorney then makes the decision. With just my name, your attorney could verify my book, company and everything in about 15 minutes.  I'm well known in my niche.  Piece of cake.  No risk at all.  Contract would not allow attorney to reveal identity of either of us to anyone.  Neither can pull out.  Contract would be final and Attorney's decision final.  No questions asked.  Too bad, I would have loved taking your money.  LMAO.




There would have to be some sort of proof of identity, like an expired drivers license or something. Otherwise I'm Steve Jobs...


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: qman]
    #22112613 - 08/19/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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"tell that to the Germans"

Explain.

"if Mexico had the same minimum wage as the US"

:facepalm: That's never going to happen, talk about a pipedream.

"Mexico sucks because...of their corrupt Gov't"

It's only one of the reasons why they suck, there's a very long list of reason why they suck, it's not just the fault of their leaders.

"Mexico is replete with natural resources"

Not really, most of the oil in unrecoverable.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Mexico




"explain"

after the fall of the soviet union, east and west germany were reunified.  East germans had nothing.  West germans had a thriving western economy.  The sky didn't fall, and Germany is doing just fine today. explanation enough?

":facepalm: That's never going to happen, talk about a pipedream."

it would happen automatically if we annexed mexico and made it subject to US law.

"Not really, most of the oil in unrecoverable.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Mexico"

it is unrecoverable with the outdated equipment available to PEMEX.  That their equipment is so far behind is testament to the terrible mismanagement of the Mexican Gov't.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! *DELETED* [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22112633 - 08/19/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22112637 - 08/19/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

KauaiOrca said:
Just accept it ... you're a chicken shit.




Right.  :lmafo:


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There's really no trust needed.




Right.  :lmafo::lmafo:


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  If you were indeed a business owner you'd know how easy this is to do.




Right. It is easy... to make shit up.  :lmafo::lmafo::lmafo:


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Contract is dead simple.  We both send $$$ to YOUR attorney.  Your Attorney then makes the decision. With just my name, your attorney could verify my book, company and everything in about 15 minutes.  I'm well known in my niche.  Piece of cake.  No risk at all.  Contract would not allow attorney to reveal identity of either of us to anyone.  Neither can pull out.  Contract would be final and Attorney's decision final.  No questions asked.  Too bad, I would have loved taking your money.  LMAO.




Sorry dude, you're just not trustworthy enough. You'll have to live with that.

That you assume any particular ending is entertaining.

Now, please continue. The humor is priceless.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22112643 - 08/19/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm a very easy person to verify.




Other than in one of my fields, I'm not. I like it that way.

Especially to the untrustworthy.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22112648 - 08/19/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Woof actually has a good point there.

ko
>I write and review contracts every day

Yeah right. You told us you sold your business and no longer work. You are here every day telling tales. Speaking of which...

>I'm an Author and have a 15 week best seller

lol, it just keeps getting better. What sort of service did your company perform? You speak of lawyers but I'm sure you aren't one yourself. Why is it you can't link to the law you say forced you to pay income tax to those states?

lds
>Please continue... :popcorn:

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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22112662 - 08/19/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:

Sorry dude, you're just not trustworthy enough. You'll have to live with that.

That you assume any particular ending is entertaining.

Now, please continue. The humor is priceless.




The humor is watching you cower and make excuses.  Your attorney could verify me and the companies I've owned (two of them still exist) in 2 minutes with pictures of me on their websites.  Verify my book in 10 seconds on Amazon with  my picture.  Do a quick Skype call to see my face and it's a done deal.  No way for me to fake it, because I'm too well known.

You chicken shit.  LMAO!


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22112671 - 08/19/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Whatever gets you through the night.


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! *DELETED* [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22112682 - 08/19/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22112707 - 08/19/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

qman said:
"tell that to the Germans"

Explain.

"if Mexico had the same minimum wage as the US"

:facepalm: That's never going to happen, talk about a pipedream.

"Mexico sucks because...of their corrupt Gov't"

It's only one of the reasons why they suck, there's a very long list of reason why they suck, it's not just the fault of their leaders.

"Mexico is replete with natural resources"

Not really, most of the oil in unrecoverable.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Mexico




"explain"

after the fall of the soviet union, east and west germany were reunified.  East germans had nothing.  West germans had a thriving western economy.  The sky didn't fall, and Germany is doing just fine today. explanation enough?

":facepalm: That's never going to happen, talk about a pipedream."

it would happen automatically if we annexed mexico and made it subject to US law.

"Not really, most of the oil in unrecoverable.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Mexico"

it is unrecoverable with the outdated equipment available to PEMEX.  That their equipment is so far behind is testament to the terrible mismanagement of the Mexican Gov't.




They were still Germans for god's sake.  :facepalm:  What kind of comparison is that?


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Re: Bernie draws 28,000 in LA and the same in Portland! [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22112721 - 08/19/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Now you are telling us a consulting company has to pay income taxes in every state it operates? But despite frequent requests, you refuse (are unable) to provide any evidence of that. Now you are not just an author but famous. Do go on...


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