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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22081428 - 08/12/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There's a California bill moving along that would automatically register licensed drivers to vote. AP 1461

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/04/28/bill-to-register-all-california-drivers-to-vote-advances/

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Padilla is supporting a bill, AB 1461, authored by Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez (D-San Diego), that would, as in Oregon, require that every person with a driver’s license in California be automatically registered to vote.

AB 1461 says that a licensed driver would have to affirmatively opt out of being registered in order not to be enrolled automatically.




A similar bill has already passed in Oregon.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/oregon-is-first-state-to-adopt-automatic-voter-registration/

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Gov. Kate Brown signed a bill that puts the burden of registration on the state instead of voters.

Under the legislation, every adult citizen in Oregon who has interacted with the Driver and Motor Vehicle Services Division since 2013 but hasn’t registered to vote will receive a ballot in the mail at least 20 days before the next statewide election. The measure is expected to add about 300,000 new voters to the rolls.







Ding-ding-ding.

We have a winner in the why do people want to give licenses to illegals contest.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22081434 - 08/12/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yes we do, and the coverage cap for uninsured motorist is much lower than the cap for minimum liability coverage


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22081436 - 08/12/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think there should even be such a thing as being "here illegally."  Immigrants, legal and illegal enrich this nation culturally and financially.  I see no reason to even worry about such things.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: Enlil]
    #22081476 - 08/12/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think there should even be such a thing as being "here illegally."  Immigrants, legal and illegal enrich this nation culturally and financially.  I see no reason to even worry about such things.




"enrich this nation culturally"

Like refusing to speak English.

"and financially"

http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-california-taxpayers

"The annual expenditure of state and local tax dollars on services for that population (illegals in California) is $25.3 billion...tax revenue collected, $3.5 billion"

Yeah, that's just fucking great, using 7 times more in taxes than they contribute, that's so enriching.  :facepalm:


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22081478 - 08/12/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

7 million new voters in California. I wonder what party the majority of theses noobs will be voting...



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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22081488 - 08/12/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

show me some evidence that there has ever been significant voter fraud by illegals.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22081519 - 08/12/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am not a research by request machine here. I said nothing about voter fraud in my posts.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22081528 - 08/12/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

isn't that the concern with having ballots mailed to illegals? that they will use them to vote?  that is voter fraud. if it is something to worry about, there should be some notable examples. that is all.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22081563 - 08/12/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you read the OP and along with what I have posted, it would appear that there may be illegals voting in the near future. This is not a done deal with the voting until 1461 gets passed. If the OP was concerning Oregon drivers licenses, then we would have something.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22081666 - 08/12/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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my kneejerk reaction is to say "Fuck those illegal aliens!"
but when i think about it, i would much rather be rear-ended by a licensed, insured, illegal alien than be hit-and-run rear ended by an unlicensed uninsured illegal alien



Sounds to me like an incidental benefit.

p.s. how about we round up ALL illegal aliens and ship them back to Mexico?  That way, you will NEVER have to worry about being rear-ended by illegal aliens, whether they have a license or not.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: WAN]
    #22081719 - 08/12/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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my kneejerk reaction is to say "Fuck those illegal aliens!"
but when i think about it, i would much rather be rear-ended by a licensed, insured, illegal alien than be hit-and-run rear ended by an unlicensed uninsured illegal alien



Sounds to me like an incidental benefit.

p.s. how about we round up ALL illegal aliens and ship them back to Mexico?  That way, you will NEVER have to worry about being rear-ended by illegal aliens, whether they have a license or not.




no. i already advocated for granting all mexicans US citizenship so we can go into Mexico and liberate all the americans being held hostage by their corrupt gov't and bloodthirsty cartels


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22081730 - 08/12/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22081739 - 08/12/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Think about it, Mexico has oppressed citizens, they have oil reserves, hell, it even has tons of desert.  Our troops coming home from oversees will feel right at home there, and unlike iraq or afghanistan, the locals might actually welcome us as liberators.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22081757 - 08/12/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm all for letting anyone/everyone come to work, live, whatever.  As far as citizenship, I'd make it easier, but it would still require a test.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: Enlil]
    #22081812 - 08/12/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm all for letting anyone/everyone come to work, live, whatever.  As far as citizenship, I'd make it easier, but it would still require a test.




Sure, let's bring in a good 200 million poor immigrants from all over the globe.  The more the merrier.  :cookiemonster:


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: qman]
    #22081824 - 08/12/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I fully agree.  It might just make us competitive once again in manufacturing.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: qman]
    #22081838 - 08/12/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

think of all the construction jobs rebuilding mexico to American codes.  All the anti-immigration people would be happy because the border would become tiny in comparison to now(easy to fence off and patrol).  It would simplify things for manufacturers by reducing their labeling costs(only have to produce 1 set of packaging instead of one for the US and one for Mexico)


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: Enlil]
    #22081853 - 08/12/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I fully agree.  It might just make us competitive once again in manufacturing.




How could 200 million poor immigrants "make US competitive once again in manufacturing"?  The way I see it, these people would only cost us money to feed, house, and clothe them.  They would probably take more benefits and services than what they contribute in taxes (IF they do in fact pay taxes).

These poor immigrants are poor in their original countries for a reason.  They tend to be less educated (and are possibly wholly un-educable), and they possess no marketable skills.  Not to mention over time, these people will very possibly inter-breed with the local Americans, thus changing the genetic make-up of USA on a long-term basis.  For the worse, I might add.


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22081856 - 08/12/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This has nothing to do with Obama. California passed a law that allows this. The Obama administration had absolutely nothing to do with it. It was pure California.

Second, do you think it's better to have a bunch of unlicensed drivers on the road? Because that sounds stupid as fuck to me.

If you don't like it then just don't come to California :shrug:


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Re: Most Cali drivers licenses go to illegal aliens [Re: WAN]
    #22081862 - 08/12/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I fully agree.  It might just make us competitive once again in manufacturing.




How could 200 million poor immigrants "make US competitive once again in manufacturing"?  The way I see it, these people would only cost us money to feed, house, and clothe them.  They would probably take more benefits and services than what they contribute in taxes (IF they do in fact pay taxes).

These poor immigrants are poor in their original countries for a reason.  They tend to be less educated (and are possibly wholly un-educable), and they possess no marketable skills.  Not to mention over time, these people will very possibly inter-breed with the local Americans, thus changing the genetic make-up of USA on a long-term basis.  For the worse, I might add.




Don't even bother, they're all trolling.  :trolldance:


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