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larry.fisherman
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You could say the same thing about psychedelics. Any drug.
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xbloodwhipx

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Exactly.
Also, how does using drugs to deal with life make you a pussy?
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moonrockmushy
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Yeah I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but you're seemingly very naive and talking like someone in the early stages of opiate addiction. I sincerely wish I had the good sense when I was young not to believe such nonsense, but I had to figure all this out for myself.
Weed and mushrooms do not reprogram your brain so that you cannot function without them. That is a big difference. I also think they trigger creative thinking where opiates result in solving problems by ignoring them. Lastly weed and mushrooms won't kill you, and with opiates it is only a matter of time.
I'd feel comfortable comparing opiate and alcohol addiction, but it's not in the same league as weed that is just ridiculous. Some people have this thing where once they start doing one drug, it leads to other drugs, but it doesn't have to be like that (at least that is where I am at, other people might say I am also in denial). I stopped doing illegal opiates because it made my life utter shit, and because of that I wouldn't recommend them to anybody and promoting them on the basis that 'it feels good' makes me cringe because it's just so dumb.
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xbloodwhipx

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Early stages of addiction? I guess if using once a month for nearly three years qualifies as that...
Of course some people cant control themselves around opiates, i seem to be missing whatever causes addiction to them.
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xbloodwhipx

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Not saying I'm immune to addiction. I was pretty severly addicted to amphetamines to the point where they no longer get me high even after not touching them in over a year, but i consider that a blessing...
Edited by xbloodwhipx (08/12/15 02:04 PM)
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moonrockmushy
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well good luck with that. Using once a month for three years definitely qualifies as the early stages of an addiction IMO I'd advise you to quit while you're ahead, as it only gets worse, but you won't listen so I'll just say don't IV fentanyl OP.
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xbloodwhipx

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Quote:
moonrockmushy said:
well good luck with that. Using once a month for three years definitely qualifies as the early stages of an addiction IMO I'd advise you to quit while you're ahead, as it only gets worse, but you won't listen so I'll just say don't IV fentanyl OP.
Ok, im in the early stages of addiction. But i never crave opiates so i can live with being in the early stages 
My goal is to to 10 years without becoming addicted. 1/3 of the way there. Then when i get there im going to quit and hardly ever touch opiates. Just so i can say i told you so 
Besides, opiate addiction is too expensive. Just think of all the weed i could buy
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Zombi3
Bella Ciao!!




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That's a weird goal for someone to have. Just sayin.
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Thayendanegea
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Back to OP....fentanyl was designed to be absorbed transdermaly, in patch form...not orally, nasally, or especially IV'd. I guess the heroin suppliers figured out that, if you add a tiny bit to the heroin...it is much stronger...hence, all the OD's in the Northeast in the last couple years. Junkies were and still are dropping like flies. Dude, flush that shit, really.
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moonrockmushy
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I don't mean to be a dick because the only reason I know this is because I was there myself, but every justification you give is a huge red flag. Just make sure you always prioritize your health and you might be ok, but it's still a crap-shoot. OP seems to be much more intent on self destruction so I'd probably try to avoid taking up your defense of opiates in this thread, as he or she doesn't need any encouragement.
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Amishmedic8
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Re: Fentanyl iV question [Re: Zombi3]
#22081805 - 08/12/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those things are best in lolipop form. Tape it to your fingers so when you black out it doesnt fall on the floor. Iv though. Thats no joke. Unless youve got a bag of saline and have someone there to shut it off when you black out. I just wouldn't man. I really really wouldnt and thats saying something.
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Malcolm_Xtasy
Oh baby what Is you doin??



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OP is probably already dead
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Zombi3
Bella Ciao!!




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It's not funny cuz that's entirely a possibility
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Malcolm_Xtasy
Oh baby what Is you doin??



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Re: Fentanyl iV question [Re: Zombi3]
#22081829 - 08/12/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did you see a haha or lol in my post?
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JohnnieYen
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he was hardcore RIP OP
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xbloodwhipx

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Re: Fentanyl iV question [Re: Zombi3]
#22081834 - 08/12/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I don't mean to be a dick because the only reason I know this is because I was there myself, but every justification you give is a huge red flag. Just make sure you always prioritize your health and you might be ok, but it's still a crap-shoot. OP seems to be much more intent on self destruction so I'd probably try to avoid taking up your defense of opiates in this thread, as he or she doesn't need any encouragement.
Gotcha, I agree OP should avoid fentanyl. I mean jesus, like i said earlier, IV fentatyl? You have a deathwish?
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Zombi3 said: That's a weird goal for someone to have. Just sayin.
I was kidding Truthfully, my goal is to continue my opiate use without becoming addicted. Besides, i like getting as high as possible from lower doses of opiates and know how quickly the magic can be lost from a drug if you start doing it regularly.
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moonrockmushy
High on Spite



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Yeah the thing about fentanyl especially is that the high really sucks. Despite it being so potent the rush is hard to discern, since it is very selective in what receptors it hits. People won't even know what hit them, before they even know it they are dead with a needle in their arm. That is why it is so dangerous, even if there were circumstances where you could accurately measure doses, outside of a hospital where they can provide care should things go wrong it is always incredibly dangerous.
Edited by moonrockmushy (08/12/15 03:09 PM)
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Zombi3
Bella Ciao!!




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Quote:
Malcolm_Xtasy said: Did you see a haha or lol in my post?
Nope. I was just saying. Sort of adding on to what you said maybe. Sorry bud didn't mean to offend or anything
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xbloodwhipx

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Re: Fentanyl iV question [Re: Zombi3] 2
#22081847 - 08/12/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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He was last seen around 30 minutes after this thread was made...
Edited by xbloodwhipx (08/12/15 03:08 PM)
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Malcolm_Xtasy
Oh baby what Is you doin??



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Re: Fentanyl iV question [Re: Zombi3]
#22081849 - 08/12/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Word.
Just making sure
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