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I had a dream that I met aliens... Any reality in this?
#22080973 - 08/12/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I'm sick right now. I woke up at 10 am and called in to reschedule my job interview.
I went back to bed and as I was drifing off I heard a vibration. It heard like it was coming from outside. I usually dont hear vibrations unless I'm tripping, and I don't know what could have caused that fast steady sound.
As I drift into sleep I focus on my pineal gland. I focus on letting go while keeping myself. Recently I've been getting VERY close to constant lucidity, and the night before I was able to finially shift into it.
Well I started dreaming earlier and the first thing I remember is chilling with my friends in a cabin like place. We did some stuff I forget but the next thing I remember is a really hot but snobby girl joins us with some of her friends that I personally know. Well the conversation gets really awkward as I'm the only one actually trying to propel it.
That ends somehow and we are chilling in a weird version of my town center. Theres ever like this giant theater-like place that has stores inside. Like it has a huge opening into a tall, wide hollow room with stores connected
There were a lot of people there. It was some kind of gathering. I'm editing this in now as I forgot, but we actually spiked all the food/drinks with psychedelics. Everyone was tripping but no one knew it.
All of a sudden, a meteor hits next to us. It makes a crator in the ground. I yell "METEOR!" and we all gun for cover in the big hollow room.
Eventually I realize I need to see this. We had a few more meteors follow us in. After getting past some worried resistance, I get outside. There are two little kids out there, one is crying. I kneel down and try to talk to the kids - but as an adult its hard to get through. I'm trying to get them inside
I look up and I see 5 more meteors coming. At this point, I knew they wernt meteors, but I rushed the kids inside. I came back out and looked at the meteors, people were holding them.
They were golden discs with patterns/symbols not unlike crop circles. I said "THIS IS SOME ALIEN SHIT!"
I started to ask everyone if anyone would be generous enough to spare one or two so that I may take one with me.
In the middle of me saying this, a screen appears, with aliens-like cartoons and symbols. I didn't look at it much
I think I ran back inside, because I remember running back out, and when I did, the ship that sent those discs was a lot closer. I start walking up and this dude in a while hat and white t-shirt turns around to shake my hand
Hes about 2 feet taller than me, glowing blue, kinda slimy, and has a different muscle structure than we do. I grasped his arm and hand with a giant smile telling them it's a great honor and pleasure to meet them.
Then this other being, at least two feet taller than the last, with a big red robe and a glass dome over its head (unlike the other alien) it has a salamander like head.
I start floating twords it, and I shake it's hand too. I told it I've been waiting for them to come for a while. Im excited to learn more about them and expand my own consciousness in the process.
The alien levitates me close, almost to a hug. I look at it and it's smile seems a little... sinister... tricky.... but that could just be because of its alien salamander head.
After this, I was going to start talking to them, but I woke up.
Do any of you think this has any meaning?
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
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Edited by glimpee (08/12/15 12:31 PM)
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Re: I had a dream that I met aliens... Any reality in this? [Re: glimpee]
#22081185 - 08/12/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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One reason I think this has some message... We got like 200+ people to trip, and after that Aliens found us. They sensed us and came.
This was also my first alien dream, and one of the cleanest, most rational dreams I've had.
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
Edited by glimpee (08/12/15 12:32 PM)
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Re: I had a dream that I met aliens... Any reality in this? [Re: glimpee]
#22081842 - 08/12/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The images in our dreams are always symbolic of aspects of our own psyche, including people we know or have known. The dream image is not a representation of a person we know, the image of the person represents an aspect of ourselves projected as another person. Extraterrestrial objects and beings according to Jung are aspects of our unconscious that appear as 'alien' to us. They may suggest transcendental or spiritual aspects or more sinister aspects. I wouldn't interpret the dream, any dream, to be about what is taking place in waking life unless it's a precognitive dream.
http://www.tekgnostics.com/JUNG.HTM
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Re: I had a dream that I met aliens... Any reality in this? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#22082683 - 08/12/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: The images in our dreams are always symbolic of aspects of our own psyche, including people we know or have known. The dream image is not a representation of a person we know, the image of the person represents an aspect of ourselves projected as another person. Extraterrestrial objects and beings according to Jung are aspects of our unconscious that appear as 'alien' to us. They may suggest transcendental or spiritual aspects or more sinister aspects. I wouldn't interpret the dream, any dream, to be about what is taking place in waking life unless it's a precognitive dream.
http://www.tekgnostics.com/JUNG.HTM
oh I'm not suggesting this has any hold in reality
But instead spiritually. People have said that they have contacted aliens/extradimensionals in dreams/trips and I just wonder if I experienced anything that anyone else has any knowledge of
Like those golden discs each with different patterns, complex yet simple, a language made from pictures
I also wonder if its spiritual in the sense that it was symbolic of interaction with aliens or something like that. It was strange that the dream ended with "it is an honor to meet you, I am excited to learn more of your kind and expand my consciousness in the process" and a hug. Like it was a precursor for more to come. It was like first contact.
The other reason I think there might be some spiritual meaning is because I heard the vibrations outside my house as I was falling asleep
On top of that I finally recently went over the edge into lucidity. Ive been close for a while.
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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Re: I had a dream that I met aliens... Any reality in this? [Re: glimpee]
#22082783 - 08/12/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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People are prone to interpret unusual phenomena according to their favorite 'belief' system. Dogmatic 'belief' is pre-rational, and it is a Procrustean bed. I am reminded of the old peasant in the film 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind.' He witnesses an extraterrestrial craft, from which he sustains some kind of radiation burns, and interprets it by saying 'The Sun came out and sang to me last night.' I'm using a a sci-fi film to address other people's erroneous sci-fi interpretations of psychological material. If you read through the Jungian article, you'll see that Jung also admittedly didn't know whether UFOs were physical phenomena, but he did proffer a viable psychological explanation for people seeing mandalic forms. He might have been all wrong too. I saw a triangular orange, silent UFO with twin white lights on its ventral surface (others documented their experience with this phenomenon), so there ARE unidentified flying objects. Whether they are extraterrestrial/extra-dimensional is unknown to me, but it wasn't a purely psychological phenomenon.
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Re: I had a dream that I met aliens... Any reality in this? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#22082988 - 08/12/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: People are prone to interpret unusual phenomena according to their favorite 'belief' system. Dogmatic 'belief' is pre-rational, and it is a Procrustean bed. I am reminded of the old peasant in the film 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind.' He witnesses an extraterrestrial craft, from which he sustains some kind of radiation burns, and interprets it by saying 'The Sun came out and sang to me last night.' I'm using a a sci-fi film to address other people's erroneous sci-fi interpretations of psychological material. If you read through the Jungian article, you'll see that Jung also admittedly didn't know whether UFOs were physical phenomena, but he did proffer a viable psychological explanation for people seeing mandalic forms. He might have been all wrong too. I saw a triangular orange, silent UFO with twin white lights on its ventral surface (others documented their experience with this phenomenon), so there ARE unidentified flying objects. Whether they are extraterrestrial/extra-dimensional is unknown to me, but it wasn't a purely psychological phenomenon.
Trust me, I'm very aware that a line between imagination and reality exist, and people often confuse events for spirituality
I feel I should mention it is my goal to determine whether or not any of this spiritual stuff is real or not
So far I have no evidence to point to it being anything past rationalized experiences that simply aren't understood on a scientific level.
That said - I'm asking this question to try to help me understand if theres anything anyones heard of
I remember you talked to me about my OD. During that OD I got that "supercomputer" mindset. I was just gaining information. I'm still curious as to if some of that information about reality and the things I hallucinated people telling me have any hold outside of my own imagination
Meaning - I wonder if anyone else has heard/experiences the same understandings or whatever
If you remember, I'm arrogant, but I know my place
Meaning more that I come off as arrogant because I don't take the time to explain my entire philosophy in-depth every time I ask a question. I communicate in an arrogant way, but I know my place, how to be humble (internally), and how to use "true" logic and rationality.
I still havent decided if the spiritualists here are crazy, trolls, wanna-bes, or the real thing yet
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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Re: I had a dream that I met aliens... Any reality in this? [Re: glimpee]
#22085451 - 08/13/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you remember, I'm arrogant, but I know my place
Meaning more that I come off as arrogant because I don't take the time to explain my entire philosophy in-depth every time I ask a question. I communicate in an arrogant way, but I know my place, how to be humble (internally), and how to use "true" logic and rationality.
I still havent decided if the spiritualists here are crazy, trolls, wanna-bes, or the real thing yet 
I find these statements to be most curious. You refer to yourself as arrogant (3) times in (3) sentences, and modify those disclosures twice with 'knowing your place' and being "humble." So which is it? Do you come off as arrogant and then apologize? Is your arrogance a defense mechanism against feelings of inferiority? There are always greater and lesser dimensions to anything we want to bracket out. Donald Trump is wealthy and arrogant, but Bill Gates is wealthier and he's not arrogant. Jung was a brilliant fellow, but when he conversed with Einstein, he felt not-so-smart and couldn't wait until he had an opportunity to shine in the realm where he was strongest.
I wasn't doing any reality-testing on you between physical and psychological phenomena. I know a really bright, entrepreneurial former Shroomerite, but he thinks there are reptilian beings amongst us from a planet hidden from us by the Sun. This hidden planet ("X") has been a common theme in sci-fi movies for as long as I can remember, and I wonder why a completely unsubstantiated 'belief' is entertained by so many people that there are websites about it. They're is reasonable, but not rational! (I just read this difference in William Barrett's Irrational Man).
Physical phenomena require sensory experience upon which to base their reality, even if it's just reading spectroscopy lines from a distant star or planet using instruments. Spiritual phenomena also require experience to base them on. For some people, the amazing complexity of the physical cosmos and the varieties of life on Earth is sufficient to elicit the faith in Divine Intelligence - God. Other people can't see the forrest for the trees, as the expression goes, and are incapable of awe and wonder but reduce the cosmos to something as banal as mathematical probability plus lots of time. They try to reduce Mystery to something comprehensible by their limited minds. Others still require "signs," a thing the Bible warns against, pure unsubstantiated faith in the oral or written word being deemed higher than a faith found through signs and miracles. Then there are those in the minority who have had religious experiences that were so radical that it shifted their reductionistic, sensory and rational minds into a transrational and transcendental domain wherein they experienced Something that could only be referred to as God or Ultimate Reality.
So I don't know exactly what you mean by "spiritualists." It probably doesn't refer to those who claim to communicate with the dead. The other definition I have is: "Philosophy: the doctrine that the spirit exists as distinct from matter, or that spirit is the only reality." One is a Cartesian dualism, the other philosophical Idealism. Clearly from a scientific perspective, there was a time when matter did not yet exist, only energy which eventually cooled into positive and negative particles, protons and electrons and thence Hydrogen. From the stars that formed, so did all the other elements. But before the energy, there was no existence, no space or time. That is the Mystery. It is prior to physics and therefore metaphysical. Metaphysical Reality can be called spiritual from a religious idiom, but metaphysics is one of the branches of philosophy which seems to be more clear that their is an Origin that is prior to matter. Lots of people refer to it in the shorthand, God. You don't have to put a beard on it and put it on a throne.
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Re: I had a dream that I met aliens... Any reality in this? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#22087433 - 08/13/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: If you remember, I'm arrogant, but I know my place
Meaning more that I come off as arrogant because I don't take the time to explain my entire philosophy in-depth every time I ask a question. I communicate in an arrogant way, but I know my place, how to be humble (internally), and how to use "true" logic and rationality.
I still havent decided if the spiritualists here are crazy, trolls, wanna-bes, or the real thing yet 
I find these statements to be most curious. You refer to yourself as arrogant (3) times in (3) sentences, and modify those disclosures twice with 'knowing your place' and being "humble." So which is it? Do you come off as arrogant and then apologize? Is your arrogance a defense mechanism against feelings of inferiority? There are always greater and lesser dimensions to anything we want to bracket out. Donald Trump is wealthy and arrogant, but Bill Gates is wealthier and he's not arrogant. Jung was a brilliant fellow, but when he conversed with Einstein, he felt not-so-smart and couldn't wait until he had an opportunity to shine in the realm where he was strongest.
I wasn't doing any reality-testing on you between physical and psychological phenomena. I know a really bright, entrepreneurial former Shroomerite, but he thinks there are reptilian beings amongst us from a planet hidden from us by the Sun. This hidden planet ("X") has been a common theme in sci-fi movies for as long as I can remember, and I wonder why a completely unsubstantiated 'belief' is entertained by so many people that there are websites about it. They're is reasonable, but not rational! (I just read this difference in William Barrett's Irrational Man).
Physical phenomena require sensory experience upon which to base their reality, even if it's just reading spectroscopy lines from a distant star or planet using instruments. Spiritual phenomena also require experience to base them on. For some people, the amazing complexity of the physical cosmos and the varieties of life on Earth is sufficient to elicit the faith in Divine Intelligence - God. Other people can't see the forrest for the trees, as the expression goes, and are incapable of awe and wonder but reduce the cosmos to something as banal as mathematical probability plus lots of time. They try to reduce Mystery to something comprehensible by their limited minds. Others still require "signs," a thing the Bible warns against, pure unsubstantiated faith in the oral or written word being deemed higher than a faith found through signs and miracles. Then there are those in the minority who have had religious experiences that were so radical that it shifted their reductionistic, sensory and rational minds into a transrational and transcendental domain wherein they experienced Something that could only be referred to as God or Ultimate Reality.
So I don't know exactly what you mean by "spiritualists." It probably doesn't refer to those who claim to communicate with the dead. The other definition I have is: "Philosophy: the doctrine that the spirit exists as distinct from matter, or that spirit is the only reality." One is a Cartesian dualism, the other philosophical Idealism. Clearly from a scientific perspective, there was a time when matter did not yet exist, only energy which eventually cooled into positive and negative particles, protons and electrons and thence Hydrogen. From the stars that formed, so did all the other elements. But before the energy, there was no existence, no space or time. That is the Mystery. It is prior to physics and therefore metaphysical. Metaphysical Reality can be called spiritual from a religious idiom, but metaphysics is one of the branches of philosophy which seems to be more clear that their is an Origin that is prior to matter. Lots of people refer to it in the shorthand, God. You don't have to put a beard on it and put it on a throne. 
"I still havent decided if the spiritualists here are crazy, trolls, wanna-bes, or the real thing yet"
You'll get a bit of us all... lol.
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