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InvisibleKush_Zombie
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Converting LSA into LSH?
    #22080910 - 08/12/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I hope it's called LSH anyways....someone mentioned something to me at one time about how you can convert LSA into something else that is supposed to be the closest thing to LSD. Does anyone know anything about this?
I'm using HWBW seeds that have absolutely no chemicals on/in them.


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Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Converting LSA into LSH? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22081081 - 08/12/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If anyone doubts the assorted aldehyde adducts an honest go at LSC (the cinnemaldehyde adduct) would have the trip come on more than twice as fast.
Lower your dose; tho it is vasodilative it is plain powerful.  I like cuminaldehyde a bit more perhaps for its more subtle nature.

An old trip report (I made a mistake by shaking the seeds.  Only shake the after filtering and adding the aldehyde):

"First attemp at LSC; first OEV with the seeds"

"Pulse grinding 400 Heavenly Blue Morning Glory seeds, Mixing with filtered H2O in a tin-foil covered canning jar with fresh ground cinnamon, stevia and lemon juice. Shook. Placed in fridge.
Shook the 400 HBMG CWE, ocassionally over 6 hrs (maybe 5 times). Before the third shake, added 6 drops of Cinnamon bark essential oil.
At Noon he chewed and held sublingual 3 Datura stramonium and 1 D.i. seed and swallowed them 15 minutes later; when the Kola liquid was removed and drank (leaving the muck on bottom) and the MGE was shaken strongly one final time.
12:15 Already slightly altered from the 4 seeds of Datura; the MG vessel moved from the fridge to a dark bathroom with a cracked door for light.
The filter busted (oh well) so the liquid was straight poured off into a tin foil covered glass; spilling some (maybe 25 seeds worth?)and leaving most of the seed matter behind. He didn't press it.
12:30 MG drink was finished. There was some muck which was sucked on and held sublingual. Swallowed...
12:45 Dreamy happy headspace and a good easy going body vibe. Wow this came on fast! It accelerates rapidly.
1:00 Peaking.
1:05 Some nausea. Thirst from the Datura.
1:10 Sitting to vaporize a snap with a magnifying glass.
1:30 Feeling like the breath cannot be caught. Does LSC constricts the airways? Start searching for information online; and the screen keeps rippling, making it difficult. Anxious; not enjoying the effect much. Then another psychedelic wave hits.
1:40 Focuse on breathwork and feel great. Slight nausea coming and going.
2:00 Experience visual alterations; a shimmering/waving in the rug patterning (definitely more than is usual). It seemed to be playful/intelligent and powerful also. See a glistening 3-d rippling circle burst outwards from the carpet, as if a rock was dropped in a pond; from corner of the eye.
2:15 Pushups.
2:30 Joy."

Speaking of LSH one may want to try:

"
Sergeant Pepper’s Tea

1 - Make 1 cup of peppermint tea using 8 ounces of boiling hot water and 2 tablespoons of dried peppermint leaves. Let this steep for 15 minutes. Strain out the leaves. Add 1 tsp of sugar or a little stevia or some other sweetener.
2 - Mix 1 dose of LSA (or HBWR powder) into the peppermint tea and let it sit in the refrigerator overnight. Filter with a coffee filter to get rid of the seed material and drink.

Note that FRESH dried peppermint leaves work best. Old peppermint is ineffective.
"

-69ron


I hear overnight sherry/white wine extraction works a treat.  I've enjoyed the white wine, and cold brewed coffee in this regard.

...

If you have fresh seeds with LAH already then there's no LAA to adduct with acetaldehyde...  Old seeds have LAA and can become LAH again or a number of other compounds.

The other aldehyde adducts can be much stronger, and are less researched, so care must be taken.  Cinnamon and cumin have proven themselves to me in this strength respect.

Of those two, cuminaldehyde I am excited to try again most.  It was actually my last thread "hbwr cumin mix kicks ass": http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21168265

-----

Quick differentiation:

LAH:  great euphoria and light visuals (haloes, tracers, brightness and color saturation).

LACinnamaldehyde: short duration, rapid come-on, energetic, occasional OEVs (a rapidly expanding white bubble-ring shooting out of the Persian rug). 

LACuminaldehyde: good mood,  fair-good energy, long duration, fair-strong visual effects ("breathing" up to "rubber walls" or how a video camera captures after a splash as water is streaming down the lens).  Thinking is unclouded but not as enhanced or on overdrive as times with LAH. 

-----

Mix your filtered seed extract into fresh peppermint tea from a hermatically sealed teabag, acidify to PH 4 and put it in the fridge.  In the morning switch to the freezer for a bit with strong shaking repetitions and then drink while it's still cold. 

For LAH one can also take a shot of rum or sherry first for any possible in-vivo work.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Converting LSA into LSH? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22081092 - 08/12/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

from all my research it seems the reaction can only take place in the presence of high proof ethanol. Acetaldehyde (found in concentrated peppermint oil) must be added to an ethanol preparation containing a known amount of LSA (you want the mole ratios to be as accurate as possible) this will ensure less wasted materials and facilitate a productive reaction. If the reaction works properly, the LSH must be dosed volumetrically by evaporating and concentrating the ethanol to an amount that can be dosed with a dropper. from what I've heard, further evaporation will compromise the LSH and break it down due to its instability


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Re: Converting LSA into LSH? [Re: flickedbic]
    #22081116 - 08/12/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

flickedbic said:
If anyone doubts the assorted aldehyde adducts an honest go at LSC (the cinnemaldehyde adduct) would have the trip come on more than twice as fast.
Lower your dose; tho it is vasodilative it is plain powerful.  I like cuminaldehyde a bit more perhaps for its more subtle nature.

An old trip report (I made a mistake by shaking the seeds.  Only shake the after filtering and adding the aldehyde):

"First attemp at LSC; first OEV with the seeds"

"Pulse grinding 400 Heavenly Blue Morning Glory seeds, Mixing with filtered H2O in a tin-foil covered canning jar with fresh ground cinnamon, stevia and lemon juice. Shook. Placed in fridge.
Shook the 400 HBMG CWE, ocassionally over 6 hrs (maybe 5 times). Before the third shake, added 6 drops of Cinnamon bark essential oil.
At Noon he chewed and held sublingual 3 Datura stramonium and 1 D.i. seed and swallowed them 15 minutes later; when the Kola liquid was removed and drank (leaving the muck on bottom) and the MGE was shaken strongly one final time.
12:15 Already slightly altered from the 4 seeds of Datura; the MG vessel moved from the fridge to a dark bathroom with a cracked door for light.
The filter busted (oh well) so the liquid was straight poured off into a tin foil covered glass; spilling some (maybe 25 seeds worth?)and leaving most of the seed matter behind. He didn't press it.
12:30 MG drink was finished. There was some muck which was sucked on and held sublingual. Swallowed...
12:45 Dreamy happy headspace and a good easy going body vibe. Wow this came on fast! It accelerates rapidly.
1:00 Peaking.
1:05 Some nausea. Thirst from the Datura.
1:10 Sitting to vaporize a snap with a magnifying glass.
1:30 Feeling like the breath cannot be caught. Does LSC constricts the airways? Start searching for information online; and the screen keeps rippling, making it difficult. Anxious; not enjoying the effect much. Then another psychedelic wave hits.
1:40 Focuse on breathwork and feel great. Slight nausea coming and going.
2:00 Experience visual alterations; a shimmering/waving in the rug patterning (definitely more than is usual). It seemed to be playful/intelligent and powerful also. See a glistening 3-d rippling circle burst outwards from the carpet, as if a rock was dropped in a pond; from corner of the eye.
2:15 Pushups.
2:30 Joy."

Speaking of LSH one may want to try:

"
Sergeant Pepper’s Tea

1 - Make 1 cup of peppermint tea using 8 ounces of boiling hot water and 2 tablespoons of dried peppermint leaves. Let this steep for 15 minutes. Strain out the leaves. Add 1 tsp of sugar or a little stevia or some other sweetener.
2 - Mix 1 dose of LSA (or HBWR powder) into the peppermint tea and let it sit in the refrigerator overnight. Filter with a coffee filter to get rid of the seed material and drink.

Note that FRESH dried peppermint leaves work best. Old peppermint is ineffective.
"

-69ron


I hear overnight sherry/white wine extraction works a treat.  I've enjoyed the white wine, and cold brewed coffee in this regard.

...

If you have fresh seeds with LAH already then there's no LAA to adduct with acetaldehyde...  Old seeds have LAA and can become LAH again or a number of other compounds.

The other aldehyde adducts can be much stronger, and are less researched, so care must be taken.  Cinnamon and cumin have proven themselves to me in this strength respect.

Of those two, cuminaldehyde I am excited to try again most.  It was actually my last thread "hbwr cumin mix kicks ass": http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21168265

-----

Quick differentiation:

LAH:  great euphoria and light visuals (haloes, tracers, brightness and color saturation).

LACinnamaldehyde: short duration, rapid come-on, energetic, occasional OEVs (a rapidly expanding white bubble-ring shooting out of the Persian rug). 

LACuminaldehyde: good mood,  fair-good energy, long duration, fair-strong visual effects ("breathing" up to "rubber walls" or how a video camera captures after a splash as water is streaming down the lens).  Thinking is unclouded but not as enhanced or on overdrive as times with LAH. 

-----

Mix your filtered seed extract into fresh peppermint tea from a hermatically sealed teabag, acidify to PH 4 and put it in the fridge.  In the morning switch to the freezer for a bit with strong shaking repetitions and then drink while it's still cold. 

For LAH one can also take a shot of rum or sherry first for any possible in-vivo work.




You sir just earned a 5 star rating.


--------------------
How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Converting LSA into LSH? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22081153 - 08/12/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks.  I wish you luck.  The planes of ergolines seem as vast as they are unexplored.

Psilocyclops; That might explain why my rum/white wine and cumin tinctures are having such nice effects.

And I just stumbled on this thread and thought it interesting, especially the comment at the end about Eleusinian beer.
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23697


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (08/12/15 12:31 PM)


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Re: Converting LSA into LSH? [Re: flickedbic]
    #22081366 - 08/12/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I filled a half 00 gel cap with lsa extract, then added the rest with cold peppermint, tried to shake it up and left in fridge for a hour.

Trip was different than lsa, i had slight visuals almost like shrooms, just different. It lasted for a couple hours, but the broncial constriction was too much for me to try it again, i thought I was going to stop breathing it was really hard, mindfuck of a trip.


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InvisibleKush_Zombie
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Re: Converting LSA into LSH? [Re: LSDollar]
    #22081634 - 08/12/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I just ended up grinding 10 seeds with a pestle and mortar and have them sitting in 8 oz of water for a few hours :laugh:


--------------------
How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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