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LearysGrandson
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Microdosing ayahuasca?
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Hey guys so I got 250g of acacia to lay with. I am going to extract most of it but I wanted to start trying ayahuasca. I don't want to start with the full experience so I was wondering how I can brew it so that its only like a high-dose psilocybin trip or something like that.
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natedawgnow
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If you're going to extract anyway, you might as well do pharmahuasca instead. You can regulate the dose much more easily with pharma.
I usually do 1mg per body pound. So if you with 150, you should use 150mg of DMT.
For the MAOI, I don't know what you're using, but if you are using extracted THH, use 200mg for the trip, if you are using syrian rue seeds, use 4 or 5 grams brewed into a tea.
Dump your DMT into a shot glass of lemon juice and let it sit. Drink half of your glass of tea and wait 20 minutes, then dump the DMT/lemon shot into the remainder of the tea and drink it down.
This is the method I almost always use and it works perfectly every time.
Edit: this is for a relatively strong pharma/aya experience. If you want something mellow, use about half the DMT you would use for the dose I gave above i.e. if you weigh 150, use 75 mg of DMT to the same amount of MAOI listed above
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Edited by natedawgnow (08/12/15 11:49 AM)
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LearysGrandson
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How much yellow caapi vine should I use?
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Edited by LearysGrandson (08/12/15 12:10 PM)
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natedawgnow
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I have never personally used cappi before but I would imagine that 5 grams would do it
look up cappi's potency as compared to syrian rue and judge from there. With syrian rue, between 4 and 6 grams is good.
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YourTimesGonnaCome
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What I did the first time I took ayahuasca which was almost two weeks ago....I made 28 grams of acadia confusa and 3.5 grams of syrian rue. I overcooked the syrian rue so may have lost some, but I drank all of that. Then I waited 45 minutes and started sipping on the acadia....I sipped it sloooooooooow. Real slow. I was very anxious about taking too much. Then I purged with 2/3rd of my cup left. I decided that once I purged would be a good time to stop sipping. But since I sipped slow there was no way of me taking too much of a dose. I find ayahuasca to be a miraculous brew with powers inconcievable to the human mind (LOL ok going overboard here), but since i sipped slow, my mind knew to throw up at the perfect time. And I tripped perfectly. Next time I would sip a little faster because I'd like to trip a little harder next time but it was perfect for a first time experience, beautiful visuals. There was one point about 5-10 minutes after I purged where I said "Uh-oh, I hope this trip doesn't take me too far", but then the trip kind of settles in and you stop thinking "Oh shit I'm tripping on ayahuasca" and you just start vibing with whoever you're chilling with, and your visuals, completely forgetting you're on such a drug. So don't get too worried, I felt there was anxiety on the come-up, but only for the first half of the come-up, then it went away. Taking ayahuasca was the greatest decision I've ever made. It was a great treatment for my anxiety/hppd/flashbacks (whatever you want to call it). It's almost gone now.
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Achillita
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You need like 80 grams of caapi for a maoi dose.
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Bill_Oreilly
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I don't get it...some people say that 8-12 grams is enough ACRB for aya and some people say you need 20-50 grams. That's why I have never tried it because I don't know what to trust...I don't want to massively under-dose and I don't want to massively over-dose.
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flickedbic
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Spruce met with caapi amongst The natives “not only drink an infusion but also chew the dried stem" http://biopark.org/peru/schultes-ayahuasca.html
I believe I read Harmalas absorb ~3X more effectively bucally...
"Absorbed poorly through stomach. Small doses (20-200 mg) effective intrabuccally and sublingually." https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=12978
How cool would yage extract bubblegum be. Chew three green peices; then one or two blue...
If you want confusa there also than maybe two brews... Or perhaps concentrated tincture would be more convenient?
"Microdosing" you say..."Only like a high dose psilocin trip" you say...haha
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Edited by flickedbic (08/12/15 03:32 PM)
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Sabnock
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Quote:
Bill_Oreilly said: I don't get it...some people say that 8-12 grams is enough ACRB for aya and some people say you need 20-50 grams. That's why I have never tried it because I don't know what to trust...I don't want to massively under-dose and I don't want to massively over-dose.
With a properly brewed tea with no potency loss, 8 to 12 grams is a good dose. But when i've made some egg white cleansed Acacia teas before, there was some potency loss and thus a dose would come out to be about 15 to 20 grams. A friend of mine recently started acidifying his Acacia teas and says that with the acidity the dose is around 10 grams instead of 20. I've also noticed some potency loss with Mimosa teas when trying to clean it, because i can fill up 3 capsules with Mimosa inner root powder and it's a pretty good dose, but if i made a tea from it, the dose equal in effects to 3 capsules of the root would be 8 grams of the tea. So i guess it all comes down to how good one can make their tea without much potency loss. I should be able to make a Mimosa tea where a good dose would be 3 to 5 grams, if properly brewed, but for some reason my teas keep turning out to be good at 8 grams while the capsules seem to be good at about 2.5 to 3 grams.
Within the last few days i've been thinking about taking 3 grams of Mimosa powder, putting it into a jar with a little bit of hot water, shake periodically and let it sit overnight, then filter off the next day and let the liquid evaporate down to a nice powdery/flaky residue which can be scraped up and put into a capsule. I've done this a few times before and it's worked pretty darn well.
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natedawgnow
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Quote:
Bill_Oreilly said: I don't get it...some people say that 8-12 grams is enough ACRB for aya and some people say you need 20-50 grams. That's why I have never tried it because I don't know what to trust...I don't want to massively under-dose and I don't want to massively over-dose.
I said it before, but I will say it again just for you, Bill:
PHARMAHUASCA!!!
it is basically the same thing but using extracted alkaloids so you can dose yourself much more easily.
I layed it out earlier in this thread pretty well, read what I wrote then give it a try and you'll never have to worry about it again.
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AkashicExplorer
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In a little over than a month I am going to an Ayahuasca retreat... I plan to drink it all but big chugs instead of small sips, so when the purging comes up, I will already have all the DMT in my system.
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