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DinkinFlicka84
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Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits?
#22079194 - 08/11/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I tried searching this topic and couldn't find if specifically dunking a bulk sub would help with stalled fruits.
Also, what are the benefits of a dunk and roll? I've been doing it to help prevent contaminants since they prefer to show up after my first flush. I've been salting the contaminated areas, which I found using less is better. If you pile it on, it literally pulls ALL o the moisture (which becomes a massive pool the sub sits in and causes the mold to spread.
Here are the fruits that have stalled. I'm curious if any of them still can be saved and grown to their potential, while I can tell the one's that sure as hell don't have a chance. Thanks for your keen eye, guys.
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cronicr



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those are not stalled they are infected with verticillium mold
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Re: Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits? [Re: cronicr]
#22079271 - 08/11/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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those are not stalled they are infected with verticillium mold
Fucking THANK YOU!!!! I've had that shit pop up several times on me. Usually after a flush or two, though. Never could identify it...until now.
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Those subs look dry. Are you growing them open, on those racks in that greenhouse in your signature? If so, that's why you have trouble keeping them moist. You would do better to leave them in the container, with a liner, and maybe even case them.
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cronicr



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Re: Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#22079450 - 08/12/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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those spores spread very easily, stop misting and get them out of your house and clean that shit up
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DinkinFlicka84
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Re: Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#22079643 - 08/12/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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To Member "Shhhhh," I just took them out of the GH. Thank you for the info on the Verticillium. I had just read about that 2 days ago when trying to research my "stalled" fruits. It seems to only affect a small number of fruits because the rest of them fully fruit and are harvested.
So are you certain that every single fruit body in these 9 pictures that look questionable have Verticllium and that none of these are actually suffering from stalling?
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DinkinFlicka84
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Re: Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits? [Re: cronicr]
#22079660 - 08/12/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi,
I guess the pictures don't do my GH justice. If you were to look at my shared pics, you could see the full GH. It's fully covered in a fitted liner, with a small "fogger" that runs every 2 hours for 5 minutes which is perfect as I'm in Denver with the high altitude.
All of my subs stay nice and moist to the touch and apparently don't stall, but have picked up Verticillium. I know my hygrometer is shit, but just sticking your hands in the Gh is a very moist and humid zone. Every 2 hours is the perfect spacing since the subs never have pooled or a lot of droplets on the surface.
I get easily 2-2.5 oz. per sub and most of my fruits from the 2nd flush on are large and thick. I have my cool mist piped in and it runs every other 30 minutes, which I lowered from 24 hrs straight when I received advice to do so, however, I can't remember why you wouldn't want to run FAE 24/7 with subs...
So, as you were saying the subs look dry, I assure you they are nice and moist. I check their texture every couple of days with my latex gloves on. Also, my subs are made of 2qts WBS spawn, 3qts coir and 3qts verm. I also combine correct field capacity (a few drips when tightly squeezed) and I always dunk my spawn for 20 minutes before mixing with sub.
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wowimflabbergasted
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DinkinFlicka84 said: So are you certain that every single fruit body in these 9 pictures that look questionable have Verticllium and that none of these are actually suffering from stalling?
I'm not cron, but yes. The whole thing is infected.
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DinkinFlicka84 said: I get easily 2-2.5 oz. per sub and most of my fruits from the 2nd flush on are large and thick. I have my cool mist piped in and it runs every other 30 minutes, which I lowered from 24 hrs straight when I received advice to do so, however, I can't remember why you wouldn't want to run FAE 24/7 with subs...
You do want constant FAE, but a humidifier doesn't provide that.
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So, as you were saying the subs look dry, I assure you they are nice and moist. I check their texture every couple of days with my latex gloves on. Also, my subs are made of 2qts WBS spawn, 3qts coir and 3qts verm. I also combine correct field capacity (a few drips when tightly squeezed) and I always dunk my spawn for 20 minutes before mixing with sub.
How are you preparing the coir/verm?
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Re: Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits? [Re: cronicr]
#22082173 - 08/12/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: those are not stalled they are infected with verticillium mold
nice find, they didnt look too hot
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cronicr



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Re: Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits? [Re: tampaman]
#22082434 - 08/12/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yep those are all infected
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DinkinFlicka84
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Re: Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits? [Re: cronicr]
#22089596 - 08/13/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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To "wowimflabbergasted" "You do want constant FAE, but a humidifier doesn't provide that."
So, I use the cool mist humidifier that's from The green houses in the teks. It says that it's used for FAE because the amount of actual mist or moisture that comes out of the humidifier is laughable.
It's a pretty bad machine for what it's made for when people need moisture in their homes, so it works better for our hobby because it pushes out a good amount of filtered air with only a little moisture so it doesn't dry out the subs.
This is why I have a "fogger" type humidifier inside of the GH which clouds the entire GH up for 5 minutes every 2 hours. It never pools or beads up on the surface and my subs stay nice and moist, which is strange that members were pointing out that my subs look dry and I assure them they are more than just barely damp. They feel exactly like they should.
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cronicr



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i always run my coolmist 24/7, it only get the gh up to 70% rh anyway...i thenm have my ultrasonic come on hourly for 10-15 minutes to act like a mister
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DinkinFlicka84
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Re: Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits? [Re: cronicr]
#22089787 - 08/14/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's what I have. The ultrasonic. Yeah, I just can't run the ultrasonic that often because it will cause water to pool and bead up on all of my subs.
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cronicr



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yep i just simply turn it on for however long it takes to get some nice beads of moisture across the surface of my subs which is normally around ten minutes, then from there i time how long it takes for the air from the cool mist to dry those beads out which is on average45 minutes to an hour so i'm left with turning the ultrasonic on for ten minutes on the hour
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DinkinFlicka84
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Re: Dunk and Roll Help Stalled Fruits? [Re: cronicr]
#22090074 - 08/14/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's a great idea. I'm definitely going to time that.
I do have an off topic question about agar. I have 3 new strains that I'm trying to put on agar from the syringe. I've already done about 16 sections of plates (3 section plates) and just putting a drop on 2 ends of each section. Is that the correct way to do it? What would happen if I put more than 1 drop in 2 spots? Like a small squirt in agar?
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cronicr



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yeah that's the right way to do it, too much water and ya tend to get bacteria opr too much germination making it harder to clean
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