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EntheoGod
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Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper.
#22078718 - 08/11/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello, shroomery community it is I Entheogod back for another simply question. I have no one else to look to for this answer so please hit me with your best. I recently inoculated a strain of Creeper the PF Tek method. I have been doing this for a while now and have never had this happen. Other jars that were inoculated with the same syringe have put out a few grams so I dont think it is anything to do with the validity of the syringe. I will post a pic at the end of this to help with identifying the problem or at least what it is thats growing on this cake. I even plucked this white mushies off before and they did not turn any bit blue so i assumed they were some other strain that accidentally got on that cake alone. The mushrooms that grew on it were very small and almost resemble aerial myc. I have had aerial myc before and it wasnt this hard. When I picked them it wasnt a small thin web of myc it was a legit mushroom. I thought they were simply mutants but unless they were growing inside out and ten times smaller than normal they arent mutants. But without further adieu here are the two pics I snapped of the mushrooms. These are the ones that are growing back after i already picked some that were somewhat larger. Also I placed the other cakes in the chamber at the same time and the only shrooms to come to on those were the pins that were already developing in the jar. The other cakes are in a dunk right now to see if that can rehydrate them and help with the pinning. One last thing, please refrain from being a smart ass. I want answers that are worthwhile and not a waste of time.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: EntheoGod]
#22078749 - 08/11/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could you post another pic that is in focus on the mushrooms themselves?
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: jbaby007]
#22078761 - 08/11/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just looks like you got some small mushrooms I ant see how another strain could've got in your cakes and they'd also have to feed on BRF which is highly unlikely
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: EntheoGod]
#22078762 - 08/11/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good job you cultivated something! 
I saw your last sentence about only wanting answers but I couldn't see a question mark in your block of text (I even used ctrl+f, no questions.) so I assume that you want to know what the deal is. Those... are not cubes. That is the deal.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Inocuole]
#22078784 - 08/11/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinda looks like oysters lol
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: jbaby007]
#22078796 - 08/11/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cakes can grow all kinds of stuff that aren't cubes, so, definitely don't try to reason with yourself that they must be, they aren't. Contaminants just take over sometimes. Syringes also get mislabeled. And yeah they do look kinda like oysters but I think I've seen these before, someone posted them for a similar reason.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: jbaby007]
#22078807 - 08/11/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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jbaby007 said: Kinda looks like oysters lol
They look exactly like oyster mushrooms to me. I've heard of bunk vendors selling oyster spore syringes as cubes and something tells me this poor sap has fallen victim to that. I suggest you send an email to whatever site you ordered your syringe from because they either blatantly ripped you off or your order was mixed up.
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EntheoGod
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Inocuole]
#22078814 - 08/11/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Unfortunately I do not have a better camera for a more focused image. I wish I did because I would be taking pictures with it instead of my cell phone. There is no veil at all appearing on the mushrooms and yet the side facing the "ground" is open for the gills to release spores that direction. Nothing opening up around the sides or on top just on the bottom where its facing the perlite. Well since you couldnt see a question mark in the last post ill put one here and you can place it wherever you like in the previous post. ? I also said I dont want any smart ass responses. If these are not cubes then shouldnt the other jars that were also inoculated with the same syringe be doing the same thing. The others have cubensis growing on them and not whatever this is. However the only cubes I have gotten from the other jars were the pins that were developing in vitro. I understand that contaminants can get in at any point in the process I have just never had this happen before.
I see that most of you are saying oyster mushrooms but if it were that wouldnt the other jars inoculated with the same syringe be putting oysters out as well instead of cubensis like they have in the beginning?
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: EntheoGod]
#22078828 - 08/11/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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EntheoGod said:
I see that most of you are saying oyster mushrooms but if it were that wouldnt the other jars inoculated with the same syringe be putting oysters out as well instead of cubensis like they have in the beginning?
That is an interesting question. How that could've happened I have no idea, but those are definitely oyster mushrooms. Look at oyster mushroom grows and compare them to what you have there. I don't know how it would be possible for a vendor to have fucked that up and mixed spores, but I guess it happened.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: EntheoGod]
#22078832 - 08/11/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oysters are so aggressive that stray spores could easily take over even if they were vastly outnumbered. Someone taking lots of prints who also has an oyster grow going on might produce a print that does such a thing, or it could have just happened by chance due to your technique.
I didn't think my answer was a smart ass one. I would go as far as to say that disclaimers about not leaving smart ass answers do somewhat make me feel more inclined to want to post smart ass answers though.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22078850 - 08/11/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree that they appear to be oysters I just have no clue how this could have happened either. I hope this doesnt happen with the other syringes I bought from the vendor. Its the first time it has happened so far so I will assume it was an accident that really couldnt have been avoided but if it happens more often that vendor will not get my money any more. I would think it were more likely that it is oyster mushrooms if there was more than one cake doing it but a single cake out of 8 is growing these and the others have grown cubensis. Kind of amusing really. Any other opinions or should I just toss this cake?
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Inocuole]
#22078856 - 08/11/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I respect that... and yea I think it was an accidental mix up. This does cause me to worry somewhat about the rest of my cakes. We shall see what happens. If theres any other explanation anyone feel free to give it.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: EntheoGod]
#22078857 - 08/11/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wouldn't toss it if you like oyster mushrooms. 
Maybe a cube will pop out.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: EntheoGod]
#22078866 - 08/11/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holy hell, they look like oyster mushrooms!!! If they are growing from the same mycelium that has already produced cubes, they ARE cubes. I think it's highly unlikely that oyster spores could have dominated the cubensis myc, but who knows? Are you growing/been growing oyster mushrooms before using the same equipment?
As for the inverted-looking caps, it could just be a genetic fuck up. Was the spore syringe made by you, or purchased online? Not that it truly matters, I was just wondering. I have gotten a strain or two from reputable suppliers that ended up looking like a completely different strain.
Also, if you're asking about the 'fuzziness' at the base of some of the fruits, that is usually an issue with FAE (fresh air exchange). Fanning a little more often will probably take care of that on future fruits. However, after this grow I would probably clean up the holes in your fruiting chamber. It'll just help with air flow.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Inocuole]
#22078870 - 08/11/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea I don't recommend tossing the cake either. Oysters are some decent edibles bro, people pay top dollar for an oyster spore syringe. I would say grow them out and see if you like the taste. You won't trip obviously, but you might enjoy them.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: GerG]
#22078878 - 08/11/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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GerG said: Holy hell, they look like oyster mushrooms!!! If they are growing from the same mycelium that has already produced cubes, they ARE cubes. I think it's highly unlikely that oyster spores could have dominated the cubensis myc, but who knows? Are you growing/been growing oyster mushrooms before using the same equipment?
As for the inverted-looking caps, it could just be a genetic fuck up. Was the spore syringe made by you, or purchased online? Not that it truly matters, I was just wondering. I have gotten a strain or two from reputable suppliers that ended up looking like a completely different strain.
Also, if you're asking about the 'fuzziness' at the base of some of the fruits, that is usually an issue with FAE (fresh air exchange). Fanning a little more often will probably take care of that on future fruits. However, after this grow I would probably clean up the holes in your fruiting chamber. It'll just help with air flow.
What happened was he inoc'ed a bunch of cakes and 1 out of 8 cakes is growing oysters and the others have grown cubes (at least that's what I've gathered so far). So that being said I guess his syringe had mixed spores and lucky for him only one ended up with oysters dominating the cake.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: GerG]
#22078889 - 08/11/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I plan to build another, larger, chamber soon. I bought these from a vendor online that I got from the vendors sponsored on here. I will keep the cake and let whatever it is grow but should i separate this cake from the cubensis cakes or would it be okay in the same terrarium?
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22078900 - 08/11/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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*Crosses fingers* Lets hope only one of them have this happen. I wont be mad if they all get oyster because i have more ready to be birthed soon but its strange that this happened. I didnt think this COULD happen to be honest. I have been growing for about a year and half now and have barely even had contaminations. I appreciate all the help from everyone.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: EntheoGod]
#22078910 - 08/11/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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EntheoGod said: I plan to build another, larger, chamber soon. I bought these from a vendor online that I got from the vendors sponsored on here. I will keep the cake and let whatever it is grow but should i separate this cake from the cubensis cakes or would it be okay in the same terrarium?
I think they would be fine in the same fruiting chamber. Once a cake is fully colonized your all good as far as having different strains/different types of mushroom cakes growing in the same chamber.
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And honestly I was not aware of this being a possibility either. This is the first time I've seen/heard of anything like this happening, but it's pretty interesting
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22078917 - 08/11/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ill definitely keep this updated because I want to keep track of the ones that make it without having this happen and who knows this may not even turn out to be oyster mushrooms, although it does look very similar. I gave those of you who helped me a rating for doing so. Thanks for the advice peoples.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: GerG]
#22078926 - 08/11/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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GerG said: If they are growing from the same mycelium that has already produced cubes, they ARE cubes.
Hahahahaha!

Get a load of this guy.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Inocuole]
#22078951 - 08/11/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The cake that grew the oysters has not put any cubes out at all.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: EntheoGod]
#22078983 - 08/11/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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EntheoGod said: Ill definitely keep this updated because I want to keep track of the ones that make it without having this happen and who knows this may not even turn out to be oyster mushrooms, although it does look very similar. I gave those of you who helped me a rating for doing so. Thanks for the advice peoples.
And no problem man that's what we're here for. I appreciate you sharing this with us.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: GerG]
#22079075 - 08/11/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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GerG said: I think it's highly unlikely that oyster spores could have dominated the cubensis myc
Then you don't know jack about oysters then. . .
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22079103 - 08/11/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for clearing up what was going on Satan.
Oysters are great and all, but I'd find a different source for spore syringes.
And no, for the smartasses; I don't know jack shit about oyster mushrooms. I was under the impression that this cake HAD already produced cubes.
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Edited by GerG (08/11/15 10:38 PM)
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: GerG]
#22079147 - 08/11/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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GerG said: I don't know jack shit about oyster mushrooms. I was under the impression that this cake HAD already produced cubes.
It doesn't matter, oysters are very aggressive. I consider them a contam. Don't be butthurt about being corrected tho, it tends to happen a lot here and its not personal
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22079183 - 08/11/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No butthurt here Pasty. My comment wasn't meant toward you, even though I guess I did sort of refer to your post.
I just learned something that I didn't know about oysters. Now, reishi is a dominant fucking mushroom. It grows wild where I live, and that shit infects and destroys trees from the roots up.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: GerG]
#22079195 - 08/11/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes reishi will also eat up coir so I am very careful to not let sporeloads get outta hand when I am growing it. It is as aggressive as oysters IMO.
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: GerG]
#22079293 - 08/11/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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GerG said: No butthurt here Pasty. My comment wasn't meant toward you,
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: Inocuole]
#22079405 - 08/11/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: pyrojew666]
#22079461 - 08/12/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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FUCK OYSTERS!
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Re: Odd Mushrooms Growing from a cake Inoculated with Creeper. [Re: cronicr]
#22079919 - 08/12/15 04:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: FUCK OYSTERS!
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