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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22096370 - 08/15/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think I'll do a monotub if my quart jar stays contam free.

Well every single jar has growth! Here are the two jars I posted pics Yesterday afternoon before I left for work and these were just taken. I can't wait:mushroom2:


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: newshroomer123]
    #22096856 - 08/15/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:rockon::thumbup:


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22104395 - 08/17/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll post new pics later. Nd, I'm assuming that 75g's is wet weight correct? I definitely want to do a bulk grow with that quart size jar. Is 50/50 coir/verm the most used or is there better methods?


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: newshroomer123]
    #22104670 - 08/17/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey man I'm growing the same strain with those same jars right now! You can look at my log on my profile if ya want; almost all of mine have growth now, can't wait! Sending good vibes my man :mushroom2:


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: blew42]
    #22104764 - 08/17/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I checked it out sometime in the last few days, very nice! Hopefully your jars grow a little faster. for some reason 2 of my jars are colonizing ridiculously fast, I hadn't planned on that. Its actually the two jars at the top of the page. Like I said I'll post pics after work.
:mushroom2: :mushroom2:POSITIVE VIBES FOR EVERYONE!!!!:mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: newshroomer123]
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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: newshroomer123]
    #22104869 - 08/17/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Dang, that's nice! What are your temps at/are those the B+s?


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: blew42]
    #22104896 - 08/17/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

lookin good bro  :dancingshroom:  if you plan on sticking with cakes check this out http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=64&Number=1300760&fpart=&PHPSESSID== its the lazy mofo bag tek from eatyualive  I did it on the regular when cakes was the game kinda oldschool but this shit works great!! you can turn those 25 cakes into 100 in a matter of days and requires very little skill to pull off....all you need is a glovebox either way bro keep it up great job :congrats:


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: tetherface]
    #22105086 - 08/18/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I honestly have no idea what temp they have been at. I read room temp is fine and it has been in the high 80s last few days. Gotta love apartments:rolleyes:
Yes they are the B+. The golden teacher seem to be slower at colonizing. That bag is pretty cool.


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: newshroomer123]
    #22105738 - 08/18/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: taGyo]
    #22106351 - 08/18/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So I searched Google and the search engine here on the shroomery for various bulk methods. I don't have a pc and I don't really want to buy one just yet. Would pasturizing coir and verm in a 5 gallon bucket then crumbling and mixing a few colonized cakes into a monotub or foil pans be a cheap and effective method? I read that it might not be worth it but I'm willing to spare a few jars. Do I need manure or can I use something else?


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: newshroomer123]
    #22106405 - 08/18/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595

Use the small side of the cheese grater. Coir/verm will work fine and I recommend it over manure for first time.


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: taGyo]
    #22111801 - 08/19/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, wet. Everything is looking like it's going good for you so far, that many jars you could end up with a few oz's if everything goes good. You could use that quart and about four cakes together in a mini mono spawned to coir. That would be a good way of getting your feet wet with bulk. You may have to end up breaking that quart jar though, just put it in a bag or towel and be careful. Here's a good link for mini monos http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032606


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22114942 - 08/20/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I figured that if I screwed up something at least I'd have a better chance ending up with just enough for a few trips. I picked up some supplies today for a minimono and substrate.


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: newshroomer123]
    #22118692 - 08/20/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I hear ya, sounds like you have been reading and got a plan. Between all those cakes and a mini mono I think you will exceed your expectations, and if you run into any problems lots of cool people on here to help. Rooting for you bro, expecting to see good things.:greatjob:


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22128008 - 08/22/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

As of today every jar is at least 75% colonized, with the most colonized at about 90%

I'm thinking monday or tuesday night the 6 b+ jars that are the most colonized and the big jar I'm going to spawn to coir and verm in a 66qt monotub. I am just guessing that they are close enough to spawn to bulk, I've seen other people jars from posts that look almost completely white... Are my cakes close enough? After that, within the next few days the rest will be at 100% so another week and my jars will be ready to go in the fc.


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: newshroomer123]
    #22128325 - 08/22/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would wait until they are 100%, then give them a couple days to make sure the center of them is colonized. If any uncolonized brf goes into your tub you may end up with a contaminant. Also 100% is more spawn, more spawn higher yeald and faster colonization of bulk substrate.


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22128653 - 08/22/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wait a week after 100% white for consolidation :thumbup: Birth if you see pins.


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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: newshroomer123]
    #22129075 - 08/22/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If you're using your brf cakes to spawn to bulk, you don't need to wait a week after full colonization of the cakes.  However, you should wait a week after full colonization of the bulk substrate before exposing to fruiting conditions.  The reason is to allow the mycelium time to consolidate its hold on the substrate before exposing to the drying conditions of fruiting.  If you expose to fruiting conditions early, the mycelium will just sit there for that week anyway, so it's best to keep it sealed up so it isn't losing moisture.

That week of waiting applies to easy to grow species such as P cubensis and P ostreatus.  If you're growing shiitake, it helps to wait a full month and sometimes two months after full colonization, depending on strain.  Exposing to fruiting early also causes those mutant 'blobs' that are all stem material and no cap.

I wasn't mad at anybody in this thread. :laugh:
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There is no reason to keep colonizing mycelium in the dark. Normal room light has no effect on anything during the colonization phase. I've proved that by many years of colonizing jars at room temperature and exposed to normal room lighting from the day of inoculation.

Consolidation is the part of the process where the mycelium has finished 'colonizing' the substrate, but has not had had time to digest enough of the food to be able to fruit readily. This is the reason for leaving brf in the jars for a week past full colonization. If you birth right away at full colonization, they won't fruit for a week anyway, so may as well leave them in the jars during that time so they're not drying out.

The above assumes that your jars colonized very fast in a properly prepared substrate that remained contaminant free. Obviously if the jars took two months to colonize, and/or there's bacteria in the jars, they could even start fruiting invitro prior to full colonization.

Stamets also explains the idea of consolidation in his books. It's not necessary with grains if you're going to be spawning to bulk or using for grain to grain transfers, but you do need to wait for full colonization. However, with pf cakes and other bulk substrates, it helps to wait some time after full colonization before initiating fruiting conditions. Doing so results in more prolific flushes. Failure to do so with some of the harder to grow edibles such as P nameko and Shiitake sometimes results in no flush at all.
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Re: 1st grow log. B+ and GT [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22129823 - 08/23/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I was under the impression that I didn't need to wait for the cakes that would be used in the monotub to consolidate for a week
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If you're using your brf cakes to spawn to bulk, you don't need to wait a week after full colonization of the cakes. 










I just thought with how fast the six jars are colonizing that they would be ready to be crumbled and put in the mono within the next few days. Then the other 18 jars would be closer to 100% and would consolidate while the monotub is colonizing. My bad, these 10 hr shifts 6 days a week are just wreaking havoc on my brain. I'll wait just to be sure.


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