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Uber or Taxi
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I hate uber as a company. I dont like the fact that they discourage tipping.
I dont like how its all done through an app, and that cash is not accepted as a form of payment.
I do like that its normal people driving and not weird cabbys, but cabbys put their time and money into becoming one. They pay licensing and rent their cabs.
10/10 times ill take a taxi over uber if im on the street, but tonight i cant get a cab.
Ill probably end up taking uber for the first time
Tldr Whats your opinion on Uber and the way its killing the average cabby?
*edit*it also doesnt help that EVERY person ive ever heard talking about uber is a major douche
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: JvF]
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I was gonna take uber to a shamans cactus ranch in the mtns today but I don't use credit nor PayPal. so although I've not actually used their service...
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: JvF]
#22078276 - 08/11/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never heard of it, but it sounds like a good way to get raped. Random ass people driving you around in their car and all through an app, it just sounds fucky.
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i never use either, but if i needed to use one, i'd go with uber.
watching the taxi drivers rage about it all over the world makes for good entertainment.
i'm 100% cool with uber. if they have a better business model than traditional taxi services, then guess what? tough titties. its called capitalism
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Adolin]
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Gresh said: i never use either, but if i needed to use one, i'd go with uber.
watching the taxi drivers rage about it all over the world makes for good entertainment.
i'm 100% cool with uber. if they have a better business model than traditional taxi services, then guess what? tough titties. its called capitalism
Is it better practice? It's kinda like using untaxed subcontractors and everybody hates those.
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untaxed subxontractors can ruin a job site, or make a dangerous building. or whatever.
but as far as driving someone around? you shouldnt need to go to some special school and work your way through the 'taxi ranks', which i'm guessing starts with cleaning jizz off the back seats of the fleet.
fuck that noise. if you can drive yourself, you can drive other people around.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Adolin]
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In NYC it costs about a million dollars to get a taxi medallion and they are limited. They are heavily regulated. Uber is unfair competition and should have to play by the same rules as everybody else in the ride for hire industry.
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Uber is awesome. You can see the exact locations of cars and its generally pretty cheap barring the inflation during peak hours. They did charge me $200 bc my girlfriend threw up in the car one time
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zappaisgod said: In NYC it costs about a million dollars to get a taxi medallion and they are limited. They are heavily regulated. Uber is unfair competition and should have to play by the same rules as everybody else in the ride for hire industry.
thats absurd. shouldnt be that way in the first place
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unregulated evil is so less kosher than the regulated kind.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: JvF]
#22078406 - 08/11/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cabbies in the city turn down smaller fares all the time. I don't think those companies deserve to complain about Uber. There's a void and it's being filled.
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Do you get to see what car they drive first? it would blow if you paid someone first online than they come scoop you up in a honda or something
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Adolin]
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zappaisgod said: In NYC it costs about a million dollars to get a taxi medallion and they are limited. They are heavily regulated. Uber is unfair competition and should have to play by the same rules as everybody else in the ride for hire industry.
thats absurd. shouldnt be that way in the first place
I don't disagree but it has been that way for decades and the guys who bought medallins and are regulated unto hell are getting fucked. Uber should have to play by the same rules thay do. That includes having disabled accessible cars and special licenses and full insurance.
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Yeah that part is bullshit.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: geffer]
#22078434 - 08/11/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Then everyone would only pick the drivers with lambos and ferraris, and the ones who need the money from extra passengers are loosing out
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I like Uber
Use them all the time on weekends when I get hammered
They're fast as fuck, I mean they're literally picking you up within 5 minutes of hitting the accept button on the app
And they're considerably cheaper than taxis, taxi rates are out of control
For the longest time, taxis were the only game in town so they kept raising rates and fucking over the passenger
Now they have real competition and they can't stand it, hopefully this will force them to have some realistically competitive rates, otherwise they can fuck the fuck off and eat a fat dick
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XLCaps said: Cabbies in the city turn down smaller fares all the time. I don't think those companies deserve to complain about Uber. There's a void and it's being filled.
Actually the fares they most often turn down are to the outer boroughs. And it's illegal to do so. They love the small fares in Manhattan becasue they start with a flat fee. They make more money per hour if they go 1 block than they do if they go to Queens.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
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Niffla said: I like Uber
Use them all the time on weekends when I get hammered
They're fast as fuck, I mean they're literally picking you up within 5 minutes of hitting the accept button on the app
And they're considerably cheaper than taxis, taxi rates are out of control
For the longest time, taxis were the only game in town so they kept raising rates and fucking over the passenger
Now they have real competition and they can't stand it, hopefully this will force them to have some realistically competitive rates, otherwise they can fuck the fuck off and eat a fat dick
The government sets the rates the taxis can charge in NYC
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they should stick to regulating how high the fences are that they sit on.
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I don't disagree but the guys the government forced to pay millions of dollars for the license to operate taxis are getting fucked and I think Uber should have to play by the same rules.
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zappaisgod said: I don't disagree but the guys the government forced to pay millions of dollars for the license to operate taxis are getting fucked and I think Uber should have to play by the same rules.
can app services be officially regulated...probably not.
Uber can probably be run from someone's basement...how can you regulate that?
PS: i have not heard of Uber 'til today, so i have no idea wtf i am talking about.
PPS: of course Zappa, you have a point, BTW.
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XLCaps said: Cabbies in the city turn down smaller fares all the time. I don't think those companies deserve to complain about Uber. There's a void and it's being filled.
Actually the fares they most often turn down are to the outer boroughs. And it's illegal to do so. They love the small fares in Manhattan becasue they start with a flat fee. They make more money per hour if they go 1 block than they do if they go to Queens.
We don't have flat fees as far as I know, at least in a lot of areas. I've been turned down in London, and I read a thing in the paper about how a recent shooting could have been prevented if a cabbie didn't deny them a $10 fare. Then it explained there's been a ton of complaints about it. I'm assuming flat fees are more common in NYC because of the traffic and the price of gas.
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zappaisgod said: The government sets the rates the taxis can charge in NYC
Lol for real? Well whatever the case, the rates are utterly ridiculous regardless of who sets them
I can call a cab here in Dallas right now and go 10 miles down the highway, and it'll run me $20 and they'll want a tip. I can call Uber and go the same distance and they'll charge me half that and expect no tip.
Once I took a cab from LAX and was going to a hotel that was 7 miles from the airport. It was rush hour. We sat there in bumper to bumper traffic as I watched the meter climb to $80 fucking dollars, lmao. To go 7 miles. Now I get that they deserve some compensation for their time, but $80 for a 7 mile one way trip? 
Thankfully that was on my job's dime and not mine. And I'm sure that cocksucker knew what he was doing too by getting stuck in freeway rush hour traffic -- pretty sure going the back way woulda got us there a lot faster, but ugh, whatever.
I'm just really, REALLY not a fan of taxis.
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No matter what you wouldn't see any supercar drivers welcoming random passengers into their rides for pennies, but if I was gonna use it I would at least want a comfortable ride in a full size car or suv like cabbies drive
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: geffer]
#22078630 - 08/11/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Uber are not only cheaper but in my opinion have always been friendlier people. Almost all cabs I've taken neglect a few the cab driver has been a burnt out asshole.
Uber doesn't allow tipping because it all done via the digital system. They the majority of the fare. There's no need to tip. I've tipped before because I was drunk but that's up to you.
Cabs are 9/10 ripping you the fuck off. I can't tell you how many times I've taken a cab and watched the cab driver hit the fare meter up because he thought I wasn't watching.
Comparison in distance. I took a Uber to this beach on vacation 12$... couldn't get one back and called yellow cab 15$+change then tippped. so 20$..
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Gorlax]
#22078681 - 08/11/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im about to take an uber for the first time now.
I refuse not to tip, though. Tipping is a tradition and i wont break it.
I doubt theyll complain about getting ten bucks
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: JvF]
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It depends on the person. They can't really take tips because they aren't declared as income. Most people would take it but if you get someone who's kinda paranoid they might not want it. It's weird I've had some of them explain to me the tipping thing and why I shouldn't tip so go for it. I would take it.
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zappaisgod said: In NYC it costs about a million dollars to get a taxi medallion and they are limited. They are heavily regulated. Uber is unfair competition and should have to play by the same rules as everybody else in the ride for hire industry.
atlanta is similar, the medallian isnt as costly but your company has to have a $5 million bond for liability in addition to insurance for transportation, in the even that the uber driver gets you hurt, you could very well be fucked because the car owner's insurance company may decide that they arent liable since the operator was running an unlicensed transport service, of course that's not the only sort of liability, cabbies also have to pass a background check while all uber drivers are required to have is a car, phone and a license
Uber has also started something called surge pricing, something they're trying to get a patent on, this allows them to charge a far higher price during certain events and holidays, the cost can be 4 to 7 times their normal rates. the normal rates arent much lower than a regular taxi rate which remains consistent regardless of what's going on. now imagine the taxi that charges $1.50/mile will be that throughout the year including new years eve and other 'drinking' holidays and uber charges $1.25/mile but on some days that rate is $10/mile, the driver of course still only makes his hourly rate and isnt tipped while your card is charged a much higher rate than you'd normally see, now with the company making millions each day, the driver earning about $15/hr and paying for his own insurance while the company banks it all and doesnt pay out shit for insurance and all these anti-capitalist fucktards using uber thinking they're actually helping some little guy earn money, lol
Uber also acts like the church of scientology, they have a team of people that look into the backgrounds and personal lives of anyone that publishes negative articles and shit about them and then dump that info where it will do the most damage to the author
Uber is a bunch of sleezy dickheads that are fucking a lot of people in an effort to get richer... normally I wouldnt have an issue with a company providing competition and making money but the playing field needs to be on the same level for everyone
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Uber are swell, and not absolute dickholes at all.
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Fuck stinky taxis, I prefer Uber!
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fuck people, they'll abandon all ideas of good conscious for...for slightly more comfort/money.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
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Niffla said:
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zappaisgod said: The government sets the rates the taxis can charge in NYC
Lol for real? Well whatever the case, the rates are utterly ridiculous regardless of who sets them
I can call a cab here in Dallas right now and go 10 miles down the highway, and it'll run me $20 and they'll want a tip. I can call Uber and go the same distance and they'll charge me half that and expect no tip.
Once I took a cab from LAX and was going to a hotel that was 7 miles from the airport. It was rush hour. We sat there in bumper to bumper traffic as I watched the meter climb to $80 fucking dollars, lmao. To go 7 miles. Now I get that they deserve some compensation for their time, but $80 for a 7 mile one way trip? 
Thankfully that was on my job's dime and not mine. And I'm sure that cocksucker knew what he was doing too by getting stuck in freeway rush hour traffic -- pretty sure going the back way woulda got us there a lot faster, but ugh, whatever.
I'm just really, REALLY not a fan of taxis.
somehow you think that uber operates a little differently?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/05/19/no-uber-drivers-cant-game-the-surge-pricing-system-the-way-one-driver-claims/
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It is, Uber says, supply and demand in its most basic form: When drivers are scarce, and demand is high, prices go up.
That's good for drivers who are now being paid less on the Uber base rate since the company began dropping prices to beat the competition and generate demand. And it can be good for those who are desperate for a ride — and are willing to pay.
Critics say that surge pricing can result in truly absurd fares at peak times, and the company admitted making a misstep by allowing surge pricing to go into effect in the middle a natural disaster.
http://www.quora.com/How-much-does-Uber-charge-passengers-for-a-ride
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uberX: "The low-cost Uber" seats 4. In San Francisco the fare is $2.20 plus $0.26 per minute plus $1.30 per mile. In New York City the fare is $3 plus $0.40 per minute plus $2.15 per mile.
uberXL: Seats 6. In San Francisco the fare is $5 plus $0.45 per minute plus $2.15 per mile. In New York City the fare is $4.50 plus $0.60 per minute plus $3.25 per mile.
uberTAXI: A normal taxi ride, except requests and payment are done via Uber. You pay standard cab fare, plus an automatic 20% gratuity, plus a $1 booking fee.
UberBLACK: A chauffeured (certified limo) sedan that seats 4. In San Francisco the fare is $8 plus $0.65 per minute plus $3.75 per mile. In New York City the fare is $7 plus $0.65 per minute plus $3.75 per mile.
UberSUV: A chauffeured (certified limo) SUV that seats 6. In San Francisco the fare is $15 plus $0.90 per minute plus $3.75 per mile. In New York City the fare is $7 plus $0.65 per minute plus $3.75 per mile.
In Los Angeles, there is also the UberLUX service which is another tier up from UberBLACK. There, the fare is $20 plus $0.60 per minute plus $5 per mile (versus $8 plus $0.45 per minute plus $3.55 per mile for UberBLACK).
now, Uber says they pay out 80% to the drivers, let's do the math, since you didnt give a time for your waiting I'll assume based on the price that you were in traffic for 1.75 hours with the uberXL
$15 = miles traveled $58 = time sitting $5 = pickup/booking fee
the total on this is $78, it doesnt seem like it's that much cheaper but do you think that driver is making the $80 when uber says they make as much as $16.50 per hour. that driver would have been making $62 if he's earning 80% of the fare, that's better than $30/hr... as the next uber driver how much he's actually earning because I'm willing to be with the new lower driver pay it's not even close to the $16/hr
oh, I almost forgot, the peak pricing scale, rush hour would put a shortage of cars out there capable of picking up passengers, well since we know that uber is charging as much as 7x the standard rate, we will only double it. your $78 fare just became $156... that's a bit more than your $80 by almost double, how much of that do you think would go to the uber driver
yeah... fuck uber
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Taxis are gross and stinky. I would rather save money with Uber and feel good about my purchase.
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Uber has also started something called surge pricing, something they're trying to get a patent on, this allows them to charge a far higher price during certain events and holidays, the cost can be 4 to 7 times their normal rates. the normal rates arent much lower than a regular taxi rate which remains consistent regardless of what's going on. now imagine the taxi that charges $1.50/mile will be that throughout the year including new years eve and other 'drinking' holidays and uber charges $1.25/mile but on some days that rate is $10/mile, the driver of course still only makes his hourly rate and isnt tipped while your card is charged a much higher rate than you'd normally see, now with the company making millions each day, the driver earning about $15/hr and paying for his own insurance while the company banks it all and doesnt pay out shit for insurance and all these anti-capitalist fucktards using uber thinking they're actually helping some little guy earn money, lol
Unfair for the driver, sure, but he's aware of that going in. If he's okay with it, then why should it bother me?
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Uber is a bunch of sleezy dickheads that are fucking a lot of people in an effort to get richer... normally I wouldnt have an issue with a company providing competition and making money but the playing field needs to be on the same level for everyone
Yep, does sound sleazy, but then again sleazy business practices behind the scenes...it's not like they exactly got the market cornered on that 
Hell businesses who aren't sleazy seem to be the exception and not the rule these days anyways. And it's not like taxi cabs and their drivers are saints by any means. I wonder how many times a cab driver gets a tourist in his car and accidentally goes the scenic route for example?
Look, barring Uber enslaving women as sex slaves in the basement of their headquarters and chopping up the bodies of innocent taxi drivers, I really don't care what they do.
If they're going to offer me a ride at half the price (during non-peak hours) of a cab, which dude, it really is damn near half the rate of a taxi at least here in the metro Dallas area, then yeah, I'm going with them. They arrive faster by light years and are cheaper. If taxis want to get me in their cars, then by all means -- show up as quickly and drop your rates down to where Uber is at. Otherwise, sorry, I'll hit up Uber.
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akira_akuma said: Uber are swell, and not absolute dickholes at all.
so you still support rapists, murderers and pedophiles
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/04/more-bad-news-for-uber-driver-arrested-in-los-angeles-rape-case.html
here's a more comprehensive list
http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/rideshare-incidents
Wait a minute now, dude. How many Uber drivers are nation wide? Of course there's going to be some bad apples. How can you throw that blanket over every single driver nation wide 
You don't think there taxi drivers out there with checkered pasts? Lol
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akira_akuma said: Uber are swell, and not absolute dickholes at all.
so you still support rapists, murderers and pedophiles
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/04/more-bad-news-for-uber-driver-arrested-in-los-angeles-rape-case.html
here's a more comprehensive list
http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/rideshare-incidents
dude, i was being sarcastic...and you know what. fuck off.
you know cops have raped people...you know police have raped people ON THE JOB? so you support rapists?
serious Pris. you're so full of shit. please fuck off. fetch the posts where i support rapists, you fucking shit talker.
really, either fetch some instance where i've said somethign that supported rapists and pedophiles, or please stfu next time with that shit. i don't usually get pissed at shit around here, but this pissed me off. i'd never even advocate girls associate with dumb bro idiots, let alone advocate them getting raped nor associate in any way that that's even redeemable, the rapist getting shoved in a box and thrown off a waterfall for even thinking of doing such a thing. they should, and i would love to be the one to do it.
but seriously watch the accusatory bullshit.
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Bitter Cactus said: Taxis are gross and stinky. I would rather save money with Uber and feel good about my purchase.
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akira_akuma said: fuck people, they'll abandon all ideas of good conscious for...for slightly more comfort/money.
I don't really want to get into a big debate, as a matter of fact I gotta log off and try to get some sleep, but I'm confused...does him (or me) opting to go with Uber because they're cheaper (and cleaner as Bitter Cactus put it) make us worse people than if we were to choose cabs as our mode of transport? Or that we have less of a conscious? I don't get this sentiment.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: JvF]
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I drove for Uber for a while. I eventually said fuck them after a while.
Uber is great if you're a passenger. Way cheaper than a taxi and better service usually in usually a cleaner/nicer car.
Uber sucks ass as a driver now. They continually fucking shafted the drivers so hard. Fuck Uber as a company. When it first started the drivers could make a fairly decent income from it. Now.. with all of Uber's increased cuts and fees and stupid shit... you pretty much have to drive only during surge pricing to make the same amount.. while running your own vehicle into the dirt and having to pay for all the gas/maintenance/everything.. $15/hour maybe... which turns into like 7 after maintenance, wear and tear, uber's cut and taxes are taken into account.
But yeah if you want an easy cheap ride.. there's not much better as a passenger.. be a cool dude and tip your driver though.
I think it's good it's hurting the cab companies, screw those guys. But fuck Uber too.. Shady greedy fuckheads who don't give a fuck about their drivers who are making them millions.
There's also Sidecar and Lyft.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
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Bitter Cactus said: Taxis are gross and stinky. I would rather save money with Uber and feel good about my purchase.
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akira_akuma said: fuck people, they'll abandon all ideas of good conscious for...for slightly more comfort/money.
I don't really want to get into a big debate, as a matter of fact I gotta log off and try to get some sleep, but I'm confused...does him (or me) opting to go with Uber because they're cheaper (and cleaner as Bitter Cactus put it) make us worse people than if we were to choose cabs as our mode of transport? Or that we have less of a conscious? I don't get this sentiment.
my statement was a general one. i don't think any less of you for something as such. i don't know you.
but i was making a point is all. a closed statement.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
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akira_akuma said: Uber are swell, and not absolute dickholes at all.
so you still support rapists, murderers and pedophiles
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/04/more-bad-news-for-uber-driver-arrested-in-los-angeles-rape-case.html
here's a more comprehensive list
http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/rideshare-incidents
Wait a minute now, dude. How many Uber drivers are nation wide? Of course there's going to be some bad apples. How can you throw that blanket over every single driver nation wide 
You don't think there taxi drivers out there with checkered pasts? Lol
to be a cab driver you have to pass a background check, no DUIs and no felonies
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I never use taxis or uber but I'm Uber all the way
Taxis are a banged up and slow thing of the past. They didn't smarten up, they didn't use the tools at their disposal, they are sheltered by the government which mean they got lazy and assumed they were safe. Then Uber happened and lit a fire under the cabbies collective asses.
I got a car. I'm a safe driver. I don't have a criminal record. I have a phone and a business number. Tell me, why couldn't I drive people around? You know, other than "cabbies won't like it" reason.
That's what happens when you get too comfortable in a free market. You get fucked by someone smarter and then you wonder why you went bankrupt.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Patlal]
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We did an Über to the fair and got the SUV, $52. On the way back, taxi, 32$....
Their chump cars are def cheaper but I was not expecting to pay $52 for a 5 mile ride
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: JvF]
#22080558 - 08/12/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's really popular in the business/travel class here in Seattle. Usually it's used when taxis are scarce or the traveller is a die hard fan.
I'd rather pay the same fare for a private towncar, personally. Just hail or find someone you like and shake hands.
Otherwise, I use taxis. Call me old fashioned, but the process is clearer to me and more open to backseat driving/barter.
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zappaisgod said: In NYC it costs about a million dollars to get a taxi medallion and they are limited. They are heavily regulated. Uber is unfair competition and should have to play by the same rules as everybody else in the ride for hire industry.
atlanta is similar, the medallian isnt as costly but your company has to have a $5 million bond for liability in addition to insurance for transportation, in the even that the uber driver gets you hurt, you could very well be fucked because the car owner's insurance company may decide that they arent liable since the operator was running an unlicensed transport service, of course that's not the only sort of liability, cabbies also have to pass a background check while all uber drivers are required to have is a car, phone and a license
Uber has also started something called surge pricing, something they're trying to get a patent on, this allows them to charge a far higher price during certain events and holidays, the cost can be 4 to 7 times their normal rates. the normal rates arent much lower than a regular taxi rate which remains consistent regardless of what's going on. now imagine the taxi that charges $1.50/mile will be that throughout the year including new years eve and other 'drinking' holidays and uber charges $1.25/mile but on some days that rate is $10/mile, the driver of course still only makes his hourly rate and isnt tipped while your card is charged a much higher rate than you'd normally see, now with the company making millions each day, the driver earning about $15/hr and paying for his own insurance while the company banks it all and doesnt pay out shit for insurance and all these anti-capitalist fucktards using uber thinking they're actually helping some little guy earn money, lol
Uber also acts like the church of scientology, they have a team of people that look into the backgrounds and personal lives of anyone that publishes negative articles and shit about them and then dump that info where it will do the most damage to the author
Uber is a bunch of sleezy dickheads that are fucking a lot of people in an effort to get richer... normally I wouldnt have an issue with a company providing competition and making money but the playing field needs to be on the same level for everyone
You know nothing about uber. Everything you said is wrong.
There is no hourly pay. Drivers get 75% of the fare. There is a background check for every uber driver. Uber also has insurance that covers every driver as soon as they clock in, amazing multi million dollar insurance, for free.
If you make $16/ hr as an uber driver its your own fault for sucking at your job.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
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Niffla said: I like Uber
Use them all the time on weekends when I get hammered
They're fast as fuck, I mean they're literally picking you up within 5 minutes of hitting the accept button on the app
And they're considerably cheaper than taxis, taxi rates are out of control
For the longest time, taxis were the only game in town so they kept raising rates and fucking over the passenger
Now they have real competition and they can't stand it, hopefully this will force them to have some realistically competitive rates, otherwise they can fuck the fuck off and eat a fat dick
Agreed. Uber and lyft are a good thing for the average consumer. Fuck the greedy cab companies, let them go out of business if they can't compete. Using zap's backward logic, we should not allow cars because horse owners paid a lot of money for horses
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: JvF]
#22080969 - 08/12/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nigga wtf is uber
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Taxis are pretty much a thing of the past now.
Good fucking riddance. The meter is pretty much climing up faster then a dollar an hour and the idiots never know how to get anywhere and they always take the longest way.
Taxis usually smell and they don't give a fuck. Uber hopefully will wipe taxis out once and for all.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: zZZz]
#22080981 - 08/12/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's where the medic makes you jesus.
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Well ive taken 2 ubers now.
Its not bad. The people were both kind of stupid, just generally slow. They were both new(on the job for about a week). Makes me wonder if this is something people dont really do for too long.
Overall the experience wasnt bad. I do appreciate crazy cabby driving, but these drivers were completely tame. Coming to full stops on stop signs when the road is empty, which kind of annoyed me.
I do wish they took cash, i like to keep all my dealings cash only. They didnt have any problems accepting a cash tip, though
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
#22081146 - 08/12/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: The government sets the rates the taxis can charge in NYC
Lol for real? Well whatever the case, the rates are utterly ridiculous regardless of who sets them
I can call a cab here in Dallas right now and go 10 miles down the highway, and it'll run me $20 and they'll want a tip. I can call Uber and go the same distance and they'll charge me half that and expect no tip.
Once I took a cab from LAX and was going to a hotel that was 7 miles from the airport. It was rush hour. We sat there in bumper to bumper traffic as I watched the meter climb to $80 fucking dollars, lmao. To go 7 miles. Now I get that they deserve some compensation for their time, but $80 for a 7 mile one way trip? 
Thankfully that was on my job's dime and not mine. And I'm sure that cocksucker knew what he was doing too by getting stuck in freeway rush hour traffic -- pretty sure going the back way woulda got us there a lot faster, but ugh, whatever.
I'm just really, REALLY not a fan of taxis.
I understand. But it isn't the taxi's fault. Here in NYC they have massive debt service. A medallion costs more than 4 Columbia degrees. Government interference. Why should they require one class of the same service to adhere to one set of rules and another to not have to? Why doesn't the city set the same requirements for Uber and LKyft that they do for regular taxis and car services regulated by the Taxi and Limousine Commission. It isn't right.
I believe Uber lost a big case about how their drivers are classified, employee or contractor. The court went for employee. That's a big deal.
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akira_akuma said: Uber are swell, and not absolute dickholes at all.
so you still support rapists, murderers and pedophiles
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/04/more-bad-news-for-uber-driver-arrested-in-los-angeles-rape-case.html
here's a more comprehensive list
http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/rideshare-incidents
This is one of my biggest fears with cab drivers and the semi unconscious folks they give rides to, u never know what they might do.. Way too many scum bags out there.
And way too many people are unsuspecting of cab drivers.. There are all kinds of conspiracies surrounding cab companies, like trafficking drugs, etc..
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: zZZz]
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Uber is just better and what Supachopped719 said is right. I do know they get 75% and have to get a background check. I'm not sure about the insurance. I remember reading a job description for it but your car needed to be 2006+ to be eligible.
Ubers dominate the outer areas of Phoenix. Cab drivers only stick to the main cities. You can't wave down a cab when your drunk leaving a bar in the outer area. You just signal an Uber and bam your picking up. Never had a bad Uber driver.
Taxis are a racket themselves. They unfairly treat employees by only dispatching people who give kickbacks to them. I learned that from someone who's been in the cab business for his entire life. I could care less about fucking Taxis. It's either some fucking smelly indian or grumpy ass old guy complaining about how they do the construction on the roads to just waste the city budget.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Gorlax]
#22081260 - 08/12/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know what goes on in other cities but NYC heavily regulates taxis, limos and car services.
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Niffla



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zappaisgod said: I understand. But it isn't the taxi's fault. Here in NYC they have massive debt service. A medallion costs more than 4 Columbia degrees. Government interference. Why should they require one class of the same service to adhere to one set of rules and another to not have to? Why doesn't the city set the same requirements for Uber and LKyft that they do for regular taxis and car services regulated by the Taxi and Limousine Commission. It isn't right.
Yeah no question, when you put it that way, I can definitely see why cab companies are furious about the whole situation
I wasn't aware of this previously. And it does make me think twice about the whole thing...they're getting shafted and they have our lovely government to thank on that one
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Go uber and lyft! down with taxis and the whole taxi crooked system. If they paid too much for a medallion, tough crap. Western union and money gram are losing millions because of bitcoin, trucks put trains out of business, its a natural progression. Only dinosaurs want to hold back progress that helps the consumer.
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It was the government that set up the medallion system. Now the rules change? Some animals are more equal than others? They didn't overpay for medallions. They paid what they had to in a market corrupted by government interference. The government should fuck Uber and Lyft equally.
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zappaisgod said: It was the government that set up the medallion system. Now the rules change? Some animals are more equal than others? They didn't overpay for medallions. They paid what they had to in a market corrupted by government interference. The government should fuck Uber and Lyft equally.
So you want the govt to fuck the consumer and never give them a break? Just as they have been doing. If the cab companies feel cheated let them sue the city. Its the city cheating them not uber.
By your so called reasoning, we should still have slavery since slave owners paid good money for the slaves which should not be taken from them. You are living in the 18th century, time to upgrade.
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It has different dynamics in different cities. I don't know anyone who would want to be an Uber in NYC. That just sounds like a huge headache. The only Ubers I have taken are ones out here in the suburbs of phoenix, tampa, and san diego. They are riding a loophole and as far as I know they offer a cheaper service then any taxi around. Taxi's don't even bother to come out here and I can't imagine seeing taxis in some other states. Places like NYC, San Fran, and LA are just a lot more taxi driven. It's a service I'll take full advantage of because I can.
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zappaisgod said: It was the government that set up the medallion system. Now the rules change? Some animals are more equal than others? They didn't overpay for medallions. They paid what they had to in a market corrupted by government interference. The government should fuck Uber and Lyft equally.
So you want the govt to fuck the consumer and never give them a break? Just as they have been doing. If the cab companies feel cheated let them sue the city. Its the city cheating them not uber.
By your so called reasoning, we should still have slavery since slave owners paid good money for the slaves which should not be taken from them. You are living in the 18th century, time to upgrade.
The government should give the taxi companies their medallion money back and stop regulating them unequally.
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You know nothing about uber. Everything you said is wrong.
There is no hourly pay. Drivers get 75% of the fare. There is a background check for every uber driver. Uber also has insurance that covers every driver as soon as they clock in, amazing multi million dollar insurance, for free.
If you make $16/ hr as an uber driver its your own fault for sucking at your job.
so they make it a habit of contracting with convicted pedophiles, rapists, drunkards, etc...
mabe you should show the evidence of these fantastic claims of yours
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Calling a taxi is basically the same as your grandma using a type writer. Some people are just stubborn and would rather pay more for shittier service.
I hope Uber replaces the taxi industry.
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and here we have it folks... people having no clue that a taxi and uber are the same thing only one is unregulated
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Most of my Ubers have been locals. One time one of our dad's friends picked us up and we were like wtf? you Uber. He's like yeah I do for extra income lmfao.
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Prisoner#1 said: and here we have it folks... people having no clue that a taxi and uber are the same thing only one is unregulated
You don't call taxis in NYC. You may call a car service but you don't call a taxi. You stand on the street and hail it. Those are the cars that have million dollar licenses called medallions.
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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
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Also, I forgot to mention. The taxi drivers in Ottawa were on strike today and blocked the airport or some shit. The protest was against Uber.
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You know nothing about uber. Everything you said is wrong.
There is no hourly pay. Drivers get 75% of the fare. There is a background check for every uber driver. Uber also has insurance that covers every driver as soon as they clock in, amazing multi million dollar insurance, for free.
If you make $16/ hr as an uber driver its your own fault for sucking at your job.
so they make it a habit of contracting with convicted pedophiles, rapists, drunkards, etc...
mabe you should show the evidence of these fantastic claims of yours
https://www.uber.com/safety
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Last New Years I was in Miami for Phish. I knew of Uber, but didn't know how it worked so I had to use cabs. I was turned down by 4 cabs while this bum was crying that he has aids and folling us around. Then when we got a cab driver he caused a couple accidents and went the wrong way on a one way.
After that I decided to give Uber a try and I liked it a lot better. Its fas, reliable, and they haven't turned me down yet.The drivers I've had have all been nice and had nice clean cars. You get a free $20 ride when you sign up too. I was tipping for a while because I didn't realize you aren't supposed too, but even with that its still cheaper than a cab. I like that there is no money exchanging hands. That can get pretty sketchy sometimes with cab drivers. They act like they don't have change 100% of the time so you have to give them more and end up arguing with them. Every cab driver I've met has been a low life.
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