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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
    #22080299 - 08/12/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Uber are swell, and not absolute dickholes at all.




so you still support rapists, murderers and pedophiles

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/04/more-bad-news-for-uber-driver-arrested-in-los-angeles-rape-case.html

here's a more comprehensive list

http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/rideshare-incidents




Wait a minute now, dude. How many Uber drivers are nation wide? Of course there's going to be some bad apples. How can you throw that blanket over every single driver nation wide :lol:

You don't think there taxi drivers out there with checkered pasts? Lol





to be a cab driver you have to pass a background check, no DUIs and no felonies


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22080309 - 08/12/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I never use taxis or uber but I'm Uber all the way

Taxis are a banged up and slow thing of the past. They didn't smarten up, they didn't use the tools at their disposal, they are sheltered by the government which mean they got lazy and assumed they were safe. Then Uber happened and lit a fire under the cabbies collective asses.

I got a car. I'm a safe driver. I don't have a criminal  record. I have a phone and a business number. Tell me, why couldn't I drive people around? You know, other than "cabbies won't like it" reason.

That's what happens when you get too comfortable in a free market. You get fucked by someone smarter and then you wonder why you went bankrupt.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Patlal]
    #22080321 - 08/12/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We did an Über to the fair and got the SUV, $52. On the way back, taxi, 32$....

Their chump cars are def cheaper but I was not expecting to pay $52 for a 5 mile ride


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: JvF]
    #22080558 - 08/12/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's really popular in the business/travel class here in Seattle. Usually it's used when taxis are scarce or the traveller is a die hard fan.

I'd rather pay the same fare for a private towncar, personally. Just hail or find someone you like and shake hands.

Otherwise, I use taxis. Call me old fashioned, but the process is clearer to me and more open to backseat driving/barter.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22080743 - 08/12/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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In NYC it costs about a million dollars to get a taxi medallion and they are limited.  They are heavily regulated.  Uber is unfair competition and should have to play by the same rules as everybody else in the ride for hire industry.





atlanta is similar, the medallian isnt as costly but your company has to have a
$5 million bond for liability in addition to insurance for transportation, in
the even that the uber driver gets you hurt, you could very well be fucked
because the car owner's insurance company may decide that they arent liable
since the operator was running an unlicensed transport service, of course
that's not the only sort of liability, cabbies also have to pass a background
check while all uber drivers are required to have is a car, phone and a license


Uber has also started something called surge pricing, something they're trying
to get a patent on, this allows them to charge a far higher price during
certain events and holidays, the cost can be 4 to 7 times their normal rates.
the normal rates arent much lower than a regular taxi rate which remains
consistent regardless of what's going on. now imagine the taxi that charges
$1.50/mile will be that throughout the year including new years eve and other
'drinking' holidays and uber charges $1.25/mile but on some days that rate is
$10/mile, the driver of course still only makes his hourly rate and isnt tipped
while your card is charged a much higher rate than you'd normally see, now with
the company making millions each day, the driver earning about $15/hr and
paying for his own insurance while the company banks it all and doesnt pay out
shit for insurance and all these anti-capitalist fucktards using uber thinking
they're actually helping some little guy earn money, lol

Uber also acts like the church of scientology, they have a team of people that
look into the backgrounds and personal lives of anyone that publishes  negative
articles and shit about them and then dump that info where it will do the most
damage to the author

Uber is a bunch of sleezy dickheads that are fucking a lot of people in an
effort to get richer... normally I wouldnt have an issue with a company
providing competition and making money but the playing field needs to be on the
same level for everyone




You know nothing about uber. Everything you said is wrong.

There is no hourly pay. Drivers get 75% of the fare.
There is a background check for every uber driver.
Uber also has insurance that covers every driver as soon as they clock in, amazing multi million dollar insurance, for free.

If you make $16/ hr as an uber driver its your own fault for sucking at your job.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
    #22080898 - 08/12/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I like Uber

Use them all the time on weekends when I get hammered

They're fast as fuck, I mean they're literally picking you up within 5 minutes of hitting the accept button on the app

And they're considerably cheaper than taxis, taxi rates are out of control

For the longest time, taxis were the only game in town so they kept raising rates and fucking over the passenger

Now they have real competition and they can't stand it, hopefully this will force them to have some realistically competitive rates, otherwise they can fuck the fuck off and eat a fat dick




Agreed. Uber and lyft are a good thing for the average consumer. Fuck the greedy cab companies, let them go out of business if they can't compete. Using zap's backward logic, we should not allow cars because horse owners paid a lot of money for horses


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: JvF]
    #22080969 - 08/12/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

nigga wtf is uber :whatyougonnado:


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22080979 - 08/12/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Taxis are pretty much a thing of the past now.

Good fucking riddance. The meter is pretty much climing up faster then a dollar an hour and the idiots never know how to get anywhere and they always take the longest way.

Taxis usually smell and they don't give a fuck. Uber hopefully will wipe taxis out once and for all.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: zZZz]
    #22080981 - 08/12/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's where the medic makes you jesus.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22081043 - 08/12/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well ive taken 2 ubers now.

Its not bad. The people were both kind of stupid, just generally slow. They were both new(on the job for about a week). Makes me wonder if this is something people dont really do for too long.

Overall the experience wasnt bad. I do appreciate crazy cabby driving, but these drivers were completely tame. Coming to full stops on stop signs when the road is empty, which kind of annoyed me.

I do wish they took cash, i like to keep all my dealings cash only. They didnt have any problems accepting a cash tip, though


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Niffla]
    #22081146 - 08/12/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The government sets the rates the taxis can charge in NYC




Lol for real? Well whatever the case, the rates are utterly ridiculous regardless of who sets them

I can call a cab here in Dallas right now and go 10 miles down the highway, and it'll run me $20 and they'll want a tip. I can call Uber and go the same distance and they'll charge me half that and expect no tip.

Once I took a cab from LAX and was going to a hotel that was 7 miles from the airport. It was rush hour. We sat there in bumper to bumper traffic as I watched the meter climb to $80 fucking dollars, lmao. To go 7 miles. Now I get that they deserve some compensation for their time, but $80 for a 7 mile one way trip? :rofl:

Thankfully that was on my job's dime and not mine. And I'm sure that cocksucker knew what he was doing too by getting stuck in freeway rush hour traffic -- pretty sure going the back way woulda got us there a lot faster, but ugh, whatever.

I'm just really, REALLY not a fan of taxis.



I understand.  But it isn't the taxi's fault.  Here in NYC they have massive debt service.  A medallion costs more than 4 Columbia degrees.  Government interference.  Why should they require one class of the same service to adhere to one set of rules and another to not have to?  Why doesn't the city set the same requirements for Uber and LKyft that they do for regular taxis and car services regulated by the Taxi and Limousine Commission.  It isn't right.

I believe Uber lost a big case about how their drivers are classified, employee or contractor.  The court went for employee.  That's a big deal.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22081197 - 08/12/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
Uber are swell, and not absolute dickholes at all.




so you still support rapists, murderers and pedophiles

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/04/more-bad-news-for-uber-driver-arrested-in-los-angeles-rape-case.html

here's a more comprehensive list

http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/rideshare-incidents




This is one of my biggest fears with cab drivers and the semi unconscious folks they give rides to, u never know what they might do.. Way too many scum bags out there.

And way too many people are unsuspecting of cab drivers.. There are all kinds of conspiracies surrounding cab companies, like trafficking drugs, etc..


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: zZZz]
    #22081247 - 08/12/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Uber is just better and what Supachopped719 said is right. I do know they get 75% and have to get a background check. I'm not sure about the insurance. I remember reading a job description for it but your car needed to be 2006+ to be eligible.

Ubers dominate the outer areas of Phoenix. Cab drivers only stick to the main cities. You can't wave down a cab when your drunk leaving a bar in the outer area. You just signal an Uber and bam your picking up. Never had a bad Uber driver.

Taxis are a racket themselves. They unfairly treat employees by only dispatching people who give kickbacks to them. I learned that from someone who's been in the cab business for his entire life. I could care less about fucking Taxis. It's either some fucking smelly indian or grumpy ass old guy complaining about how they do the construction on the roads to just waste the city budget.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Gorlax]
    #22081260 - 08/12/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know what goes on in other cities but NYC heavily regulates taxis, limos and car services.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22081261 - 08/12/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I understand.  But it isn't the taxi's fault.  Here in NYC they have massive debt service.  A medallion costs more than 4 Columbia degrees.  Government interference.  Why should they require one class of the same service to adhere to one set of rules and another to not have to?  Why doesn't the city set the same requirements for Uber and LKyft that they do for regular taxis and car services regulated by the Taxi and Limousine Commission.  It isn't right.




Yeah no question, when you put it that way, I can definitely see why cab companies are furious about the whole situation

I wasn't aware of this previously. And it does make me think twice about the whole thing...they're getting shafted and they have our lovely government to thank on that one


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Gorlax] * 1
    #22081265 - 08/12/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Go uber and lyft! down with taxis and the whole taxi crooked system. If they paid too much for a medallion, tough crap. Western union and money gram are losing millions because of bitcoin, trucks put trains out of business, its a natural progression. Only dinosaurs want to hold back progress that helps the consumer.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22081279 - 08/12/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It was the government that set up the medallion system.  Now the rules change?  Some animals are more equal than others?  They didn't overpay for medallions.  They paid what they had to in a market corrupted by government interference.  The government should fuck Uber and Lyft equally.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22081295 - 08/12/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It was the government that set up the medallion system.  Now the rules change?  Some animals are more equal than others?  They didn't overpay for medallions.  They paid what they had to in a market corrupted by government interference.  The government should fuck Uber and Lyft equally.




So you want the govt to fuck the consumer and never give them a break? Just as they have been doing. If the cab companies feel cheated let them sue the city. Its the city cheating them not uber.

By your so called reasoning, we should still have slavery since slave owners paid good money for the slaves which should not be taken from them. You are living in the 18th century, time to upgrade.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22081315 - 08/12/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It has different dynamics in different cities. I don't know anyone who would want to be an Uber in NYC. That just sounds like a huge headache. The only Ubers I have taken are ones out here in the suburbs of phoenix, tampa, and san diego. They are riding a loophole and as far as I know they offer a cheaper service then any taxi around. Taxi's don't even bother to come out here and I can't imagine seeing taxis in some other states. Places like NYC, San Fran, and LA are just a lot more taxi driven. It's a service I'll take full advantage of because I can.


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Re: Uber or Taxi [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22081316 - 08/12/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It was the government that set up the medallion system.  Now the rules change?  Some animals are more equal than others?  They didn't overpay for medallions.  They paid what they had to in a market corrupted by government interference.  The government should fuck Uber and Lyft equally.




So you want the govt to fuck the consumer and never give them a break? Just as they have been doing. If the cab companies feel cheated let them sue the city. Its the city cheating them not uber.

By your so called reasoning, we should still have slavery since slave owners paid good money for the slaves which should not be taken from them. You are living in the 18th century, time to upgrade.




The government should give the taxi companies their medallion money back and stop regulating them unequally.


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