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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22088423 - 08/13/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My windows ten task bar at the bottom always fucks up and my driver resets and everything gets completely fucked. I had to force shut down my pc cause it glitched up.
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Bitter Cactus said: My windows ten task bar at the bottom always fucks up and my driver resets and everything gets completely fucked. I had to force shut down my pc cause it glitched up.
Yep this happens to me.
Also I have noticed another really fucked glitched, I can't resume windows 10 from sleep mode. My keyboard and mouse turns on, but there's no video. I have to restart. Sucks because my computer is in my bedroom and it is really dusty so the fans can get a bit loud which makes falling asleep a pain.
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Bitter Cactus
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Bitter Cactus said: My windows ten task bar at the bottom always fucks up and my driver resets and everything gets completely fucked. I had to force shut down my pc cause it glitched up.
Yep this happens to me.
Also I have noticed another really fucked glitched, I can't resume windows 10 from sleep mode. My keyboard and mouse turns on, but there's no video. I have to restart. Sucks because my computer is in my bedroom and it is really dusty so the fans can get a bit loud which makes falling asleep a pain.
Same happens to me.
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I've had zero issues with Windows 10. Same for 7. Never used 8.
It's quite easy to turn off the parts (reporting) that some don't like.
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I would definitely downgrade if I were you. I'm on windows 8.1 with classic shell and love it. Windows 10 is just some bullshit propaganda.
I bet the websites you had to download the drivers for had spyware in them.
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Wasn't planning on it OP.
Win 8 was a big fucking fail from a tech point of view. So much fucking bullshit.
Windows 10 was supposed to be better. "We are making it more like 7" after all the complaints about 8. Yeah fucking right. They might as well have called it Windows 8.5. It's basically the same Win 8 shell with a few tweaks here and there and DX12, which wont be used by most games for a long time.
I'll be sticking to Win 7 64 Ultimate for my gaming box until something better comes along.
They also fucked up their tick-tock flow. Win 10 was supposed to be good.
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: Shroomism]
#22089216 - 08/13/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That list is incomplete
It needs windows 2000
Which makes it:
Windows 3.1: good - Windows 95: crap - Windows 98: good - Windows Me: crap - Windows 2000: crap
Windows xp: good - Windows Vista: crap - Windows 7: good - Windows 8: crap - Windows 10: crap
So it is still following the rule, good-crap-good-crap-crap
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Shroomism said: It's basically the same Win 8 shell with a few tweaks here and there and DX12, which wont be used by most games for a long time.
I haven't looked into what features DX12 introduces, but people have always said that when a new version comes out. Really the only version of dx that was barely an upgrade from the previous was DX10
But people said DX11 wouldn't be used by games for a long time too (because you needed 600$ video cards to run it for the first 2 years from the extra stress that the tessellation added) but games came out right out of the gate with full dx11 support and looked stunning.
But without looking at what DX12 is bringing to the table, it may just be another DX10
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I thought Windows 2000 was pretty good personally. It's more or less an earlier iteration of what became XP, geared to professional/institutional use (the NT line of Windows OSes). Just as reliable as XP but without the ugly UI they slapped on to make it flashy for consumers when the DOS-based line that included 95-98-Me was finally retired.
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: occollegeboi] 1
#22089330 - 08/13/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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occollegeboi said: I would definitely downgrade if I were you. I'm on windows 8.1 with classic shell and love it. Windows 10 is just some bullshit propaganda.
Even with classic shell, Win 8 can suck my nuts.
Where do I even begin: - Way too much emphasis on touchscreens, when like <1% of the population uses a fucking touchscreen. They were just trying to be more like Apple. The "metro" UI and those tiles can suck a bag of dicks.
- Hidden UIs all over the place with no explanation. Mouse over the bottom left and you get a piss poor replacement of the start menu. Mouse over the right side of the screen and you get charms. Mouse over the top left and you get tiles showing what apps are open. Nowhere is any of this shit explained.. you just have to kind of figure it out. Same with the multitudes of new key combinations needed to do certain tasks.
- Clashing UIs. The metro UI and classic UI are very poorly integrated, feels like they just bolted the shit together and the metro UI is incomplete. And no option to disable metro UI permanently, while at the same time ribbonizing and bastardizing the classic UI. Some apps wont work in Metro and flipping between the two can be an exercise in frustration. Many many apps do not even work in Metro, at all.
- Some apps opening in full screen mode automatically with no easy way to resize them
- All the power user settings are hidden away in some convoluted menu. Shit that takes me 2 seconds to find in any previous version of windows, I would spend 10 minutes just trying to track the fucking thing down.
- Incompatibilities out the ass. So many apps that work perfectly in Win 7 that don't work at all in Win8. Even though it's 'supposed' to be based on the same basic shell.
- Just shutting down or restarting is a convoluted 5-6 step process where with every previous windows it was two clicks.
- SAFE MODE has been completely raped and bastardized. No longer is it just hit F8 at boot to get to the safe mode option, as it has always been. No.. you have to do a convoluted as fuck 7 step process.. hit Shift + F8.. then Troubleshoot.. then Advanced Options.. Startup Settings.. Restart... wait for it to restart.. choose the Safe Mode option.
Safe mode was the straw that broke the camel's back for me with Win 8. It made troubleshooting issues on people's PCs a complete pain in the dick.
On one client's PC, Win 8 was downloading an automatic update (even though he had it set to NOT automatically install updates.. imagine that). The update fucked up, or got corruped or something. It reboot, and got stuck at "Installing Updates" for over 2 hours.. obviously it got fucked up. He force rebooted about 10 times, which it kept repeating the same process. Finally, it went to "Update failed: Reverting updates"... which it also got stuck at for hours. He even left it running overnight in the hopes that it would revert itself. Nope.
This is when I came in. Now in EVERY previous version of windows... when an update failed... all you have to do is boot into safe mode (TWO fucking keypresses).. it bypasses all the non-essential drivers and software and only boots in a minimal stripped down config, in which you go into Windows Safe mode.. uninstall the update.. and reboot.. poof problem solved.
NOT IN WINDOWS 8. Nope. Try and boot into safe mode in Win8, with it's convoluted 12 step process.. it doesn't bypass the login screen at all. EVEN TRYING TO BOOT INTO SAFE MODE, IT WOULD GET STUCK ON THE SAME REVERTING UPDATE SCREEN.. MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO BOOT BACK INTO WINDOWS. SAFE MODE - which is designed to troubleshoot issues just like this. No longer could you just boot into safe mode to bypass all the starting bullshit and non-essential drivers and services.. nope.. Windows 8 forces you to login through the same fucking login screen even in Safe Mode.. and it didn't bypass the fucked up update.
So basically, an update got borked.. he spent 2 days trying to solve it, called me.. I spent hours working on it.. and he finally said fuck this shit so I reformatted his HDD and installed Win 7, problems solved.
I tried Windows 8 for several months, despite knowing better. I talked shit on it since release, refused to ever try it.. but people talked me into it saying things like "it's not so bad now with 8.1".. and "if you install classic shell, it's just like Win 7"... yeah fucking right. Finally I had an app that worked best in Win 8 so I decided to give it a good solid try. I spent ~2 1/2 months with it. Classic shell, tweaked the fuck out of it.. tried to make it perform well. I gave it a really good fucking shakedown and did my best to try and like it and get used to it. Never could. EVEN with classic shell (which made it more bearable.. there's still stupid ass Windows 8 issues all over the place). My list is not complete by a long shot, there were multitudes of things that pissed me the fuck off about it. I'm an IT tech by profession and I couldn't get the shit to work right and almost everything about it pissed me off or made it hard to use.
Finally I had that EXACT same problem my client did where I couldn't boot because an update fucked up.. I said fuck this shit and reformatted and went back to Win 7. Ahhh bliss.
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Shroomism said: It's basically the same Win 8 shell with a few tweaks here and there and DX12, which wont be used by most games for a long time.
I haven't looked into what features DX12 introduces, but people have always said that when a new version comes out. Really the only version of dx that was barely an upgrade from the previous was DX10
But people said DX11 wouldn't be used by games for a long time too (because you needed 600$ video cards to run it for the first 2 years from the extra stress that the tessellation added) but games came out right out of the gate with full dx11 support and looked stunning.
But without looking at what DX12 is bringing to the table, it may just be another DX10
DX11 was a HUGE upgrade from DX10 though.
DX12 introduces some pretty nice features to improve performance and graphics. It's not enough to make me switch to Windows 10 though.
And chances are, there won't be as many games coming out the gate with DX12 like there were with DX11. Hell, many games out there are still running on DX9. It will likely be a few years before the majority of newer games are running on DX12.. and by then we will have like 2-3 newer versions of Windows. Yeah, there are going to be some games coming out with DX12 out the gate. But it will probably take a while for it to really catch on.
Here's a video contrasting some of the differences:
It's actually a pretty big upgrade from DX11. But is it enough to make me use Win 10? Nope...
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: Shroomism]
#22089464 - 08/13/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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dont understand how you can sit here blaming general computer problems on the OS. None of you provide any decent reason why it is bad. Your just bitching about it. Win 10 is wonderful.
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: kakashi68]
#22089467 - 08/13/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: kakashi68]
#22089469 - 08/13/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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*Software/OS problems. Not general computer problems.
I don't have problems with my computers. Win 8 gave me nothing but headaches. Win 10 is the same fucking thing lightly reskinned with a few different features.
I do the shit for a living, so it makes a big difference to me how much of a pain in the dick an OS is.
But what, you want a list or something? Here you go.
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Windows 10 spies on you aka phones home (welcome NSA/CIA/thoughtcrime/1984)! You've got no real control over crucial features of the OS: Windows 10 will have no service packs which means it will always be a work in progress and you are a perpetual beta tester. Forced upgrades you cannot opt out of (and Microsoft have borked quite a lot of them recently so prepare to see your Windows die after installing a new portion of updates - actually Microsoft has already borked one update, read horror stories about KB3081424). Windows 10 features terrible UI inconsistency, not limited to: Two kinds of fonts antialiasing (ClearType v2 for classic applications and some awful dirty grayish shit for Modern apps). All kinds of varying visual decorations and styles (some people have discovered up to seven varying styles in Windows 10). Absolutely dissimilar classic and modern (PC settings) control panels. Different fonts faces and sizes all around. Different styles of settings for modern apps. Absolutely different context menus and their appearance in different applications and apps. Terrible hardly configurable appearance, dubious design choices and extremely limited functionality (vs Windows 7/XP): Two Control Panels with absolutely zero thought given to how they differ and why each one should be used. Some Control Widgets are spread between the two Control Panels which is utterly confusing (e.g. Users Management). No Windows classic UI for windows decorations. Windows decorations can hardly be configured at all in Windows 10. An awful choice of colors/palette. Absolutely awful, childish and amateurish icons as if we live in the era of 8bit displays (only rivalled by those in Windows 3.1 from 1992). Windows 2000 in 1999 looked better than Windows 10 in 2015. A big number of Windows 10 apps are still NOT on par with their classical counterparts from Windows 7/Vista/XP (many features are missing or many options are not configurable). The start menu is an unusable abomination. Applications are listed as a list which is nigh impossible to scroll. Windows 10 sucks terribly if you are an unlucky user of a metered Internet connection: It features huge mandatory system and apps updates (you cannot disable them, you can only postpone the system reboot after their installation). As if it wasn't enough, Windows 10 gets downloaded automatically if you run Windows 7 or 8.1. We are talking about 3 gigabytes of data some people absolutely do not need. It uses your free bandwidth to distribute updates to other users nearby you. With Wi-Fi sense enabled anyone you have in your Skype, Outlook or Hotmail contacts lists — and any of your Facebook friends — can be granted automatic access to your Wi-Fi network as long as they're within range. A newly created user profile weighs over 300MB (!) while containing zero (!) information about the user. A newly created user profile is populated with all the default apps instead of giving the user a choice. In certain cases Windows 10 may kill your display if you are an unlucky owner of a laptop made by Alienware, LG or Samsung.
In addition to most of the Win 8 bullshit. And that's just what we've discovered so far. I'm sure much more will pop up.
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: kakashi68] 1
#22089482 - 08/13/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: dont understand how you can sit here blaming general computer problems on the OS. None of you provide any decent reason why it is bad. Your just bitching about it. Win 10 is wonderful.
I don't see how you can sit here and support an OS that pretty much flat out says "we're going to track everything you do, you will not be able to disable this feature and we will do whatever we damn well please with that information".
Would you be okay if your cable/ISP came into your home and started posting up cameras and told you that you cannot disable them and they are free to do whatever they want with the footage, and this is a term of service you must submit to?
Fuck Windows 10 and fuck M$ for even doing this shit.
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: Shroomism]
#22089575 - 08/13/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: *Software/OS problems. Not general computer problems.
I don't have problems with my computers. Win 8 gave me nothing but headaches. Win 10 is the same fucking thing lightly reskinned with a few different features.
I do the shit for a living, so it makes a big difference to me how much of a pain in the dick an OS is.
But what, you want a list or something? Here you go.
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Windows 10 spies on you aka phones home (welcome NSA/CIA/thoughtcrime/1984)! You've got no real control over crucial features of the OS: Windows 10 will have no service packs which means it will always be a work in progress and you are a perpetual beta tester. Forced upgrades you cannot opt out of (and Microsoft have borked quite a lot of them recently so prepare to see your Windows die after installing a new portion of updates - actually Microsoft has already borked one update, read horror stories about KB3081424). Windows 10 features terrible UI inconsistency, not limited to: Two kinds of fonts antialiasing (ClearType v2 for classic applications and some awful dirty grayish shit for Modern apps). All kinds of varying visual decorations and styles (some people have discovered up to seven varying styles in Windows 10). Absolutely dissimilar classic and modern (PC settings) control panels. Different fonts faces and sizes all around. Different styles of settings for modern apps. Absolutely different context menus and their appearance in different applications and apps. Terrible hardly configurable appearance, dubious design choices and extremely limited functionality (vs Windows 7/XP): Two Control Panels with absolutely zero thought given to how they differ and why each one should be used. Some Control Widgets are spread between the two Control Panels which is utterly confusing (e.g. Users Management). No Windows classic UI for windows decorations. Windows decorations can hardly be configured at all in Windows 10. An awful choice of colors/palette. Absolutely awful, childish and amateurish icons as if we live in the era of 8bit displays (only rivalled by those in Windows 3.1 from 1992). Windows 2000 in 1999 looked better than Windows 10 in 2015. A big number of Windows 10 apps are still NOT on par with their classical counterparts from Windows 7/Vista/XP (many features are missing or many options are not configurable). The start menu is an unusable abomination. Applications are listed as a list which is nigh impossible to scroll. Windows 10 sucks terribly if you are an unlucky user of a metered Internet connection: It features huge mandatory system and apps updates (you cannot disable them, you can only postpone the system reboot after their installation). As if it wasn't enough, Windows 10 gets downloaded automatically if you run Windows 7 or 8.1. We are talking about 3 gigabytes of data some people absolutely do not need. It uses your free bandwidth to distribute updates to other users nearby you. With Wi-Fi sense enabled anyone you have in your Skype, Outlook or Hotmail contacts lists — and any of your Facebook friends — can be granted automatic access to your Wi-Fi network as long as they're within range. A newly created user profile weighs over 300MB (!) while containing zero (!) information about the user. A newly created user profile is populated with all the default apps instead of giving the user a choice. In certain cases Windows 10 may kill your display if you are an unlucky owner of a laptop made by Alienware, LG or Samsung.
In addition to most of the Win 8 bullshit. And that's just what we've discovered so far. I'm sure much more will pop up.
literally all those "reasons" are pure subjective opinion. Those arnt problems they are just things you dont like.
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: kakashi68]
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its not opinion, one OS is made in a logical way by logical programmers, the other looks like it was made in china and functions like an english speaking person would in china
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: kakashi68]
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kakashi68 said: dont understand how you can sit here blaming general computer problems on the OS. None of you provide any decent reason why it is bad. Your just bitching about it. Win 10 is wonderful.
General computer problems? My computer had 1 issue ever since I built it, and it was the first hard drive I put in failed after a week. Other than that, I have been running windows 7 fine on the same hard drive and have slowly upgraded components to the same computer over the years.
The day I upgraded to Windows 10, I experienced many problems like I have already posted about. So since I never had pc issues before upgrading to windows 10 and now suddenly have them, that can only mean windows 10 is causing them.
Unless of course, you do think a 4.8ghz core i7, 16gb ram, and a gtx 770 is NOT enough to rename a text file without freezing?
Yeah man, definitely my computer.
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Maybe there really is a god

Just uninstalled the worthless shit "windows 10"
Looks like windows 10 ate my private pgp key and even after going back to 7, it still is gone. Fucking god dammit.
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you were warned, you should consider yourself lucky that your pgp key is your only penance
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Re: So fucking tired of Windows 10 [Re: makaveli8x8]
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There's a lot more that got lost than just my pgp key, but that is one of the most sensitive files windows 10 destroyed. I am gonna have to delete and reinstall all my programs it seems, as windows 10 left it's lingering shitfest tangled in my programs still. Things are still freezing up and everything is just all fucked.
I am gonna order a copy of a mac os to replace all this shit, I have lost all trust/faith in microsoft and they can suck a huge dick.
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