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blood4blood
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if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless
#22077107 - 08/11/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's becoming a very common thing with alot of my high school friends who got really bad into meth. Im 30 and they've spent up to this point in their lives addicted to meth and being complete trash. Kids they never see, no job, no home, stealing, etc etc.
they're finding the lord now and preaching that they are pure now, and the lord has forgiven them of all their wrong doing and they're a better person and it drives me nuts!! 15+ years of being no good and all you have to do is give yourself to the lord to make it right???
don't give me that shit about being addicted and they couldn't control it blah blah blah bullshit. we all know the difference between right and wrong. if you have a family, you man up and take care of that family. i have a little 10 month old now and couldn't imagine being out every night on meth with him home.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood] 2
#22077114 - 08/11/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They're trying to step up and they're trying to do what's right in a way that's best for them, who cares how?
It just so happens that some people find it easier to quit drugs by using god as a guide, some of them get annoying with it, others don't, but I'd rather hear them tell me about jesus then know they're killing themselves even if I think jesus is fake. Especially if I'm using the word friend when talking about those individuals.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood]
#22077115 - 08/11/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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all's well that ends well if people are cutting out the meth head shit
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood]
#22077122 - 08/11/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The religious part is escapism. Hopefully the rest is real.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: SirShroomsAlott] 2
#22077127 - 08/11/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because becoming religious by itself doesn't actually solve the problem, it doesn't go to the root of the problem of why they're deadbeat addicts.
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SirShroomsAlott
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
#22077137 - 08/11/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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He described it in a way that makes it sound like they got clean, sure they were deadbeat addicts, but if Jesus and thinking they're better now is keeping them off and now they are doing what's right or at least attempting to, then idk or see why it matters
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blood4blood
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#22077152 - 08/11/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: They're trying to step up and they're trying to do what's right in a way that's best for them, who cares how?
It just so happens that some people find it easier to quit drugs by using god as a guide, some of them get annoying with it, others don't, but I'd rather hear them tell me about jesus then know they're killing themselves even if I think jesus is fake. Especially if I'm using the word friend when talking about those individuals.
sorry, i should't say friend anymore. we were in highschool, i choose a different path. because its a worthless crutch. the worst part is when they tell me I need to find the lord. that im a heathen because he is not in my life. you have obviously never been around these types of people. how does having two kids not make you want to give up meth?!?!? but the lord does? please. they're not going to change, they will slowly slip back into they're hole.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood]
#22077157 - 08/11/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Being that kind of scumbag is almound flour's expertise. Somebody should give this thread a bump in about a month so he can give us some insight.
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blood4blood
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood]
#22077161 - 08/11/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Everyday is a test of a true believers faith last night and what's to come will be my biggest test last night I caught my now ex with another man again it's not my place to judge so I told her I forgive her but can no longer be with her I refuse to have her actions humiliate this family any more and what you think would hurt is only gods will I believe he made me sober , tested my sobriety long enough just to make sure I was ready for what he wanted me to know and that I would not follow the path I once did to forget about these kind of things. So I told her I forgive you what you've done isn't for me to judge and felt better. I posted a message the other day something I normally wouldn't do but this message means a lot more than the other because I'm writing this to show my faith in the lord and I don't feel sorry for myself or should anyone else what I want everyone to know that reads this is there is a way to be free from all the evil and hate in the world by giving yourself to Jesus not just saying it actually doing it and with that he will give you love and compassion for all just try it and mean it and you will be free from all the pressure this world puts on us you will find a peace in your heart that no matter where you are or what happens to you although you will be tested keep believing and NOTHING will penetrate the pure of heart We are all gods warriors and a lot of people have forgotten that those of you who know what I'm talking about good for you those of who call me crazy I'll pray for"
this type of shit if you care to read. I asked if I can still be clothed when I give myself to Jesus and it didn't go over so well.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood]
#22077168 - 08/11/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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blood4blood said: It's becoming a very common thing with alot of my high school friends who got really bad into meth. Im 30 and they've spent up to this point in their lives addicted to meth and being complete trash. Kids they never see, no job, no home, stealing, etc etc.
they're finding the lord now and preaching that they are pure now, and the lord has forgiven them of all their wrong doing and they're a better person and it drives me nuts!! 15+ years of being no good and all you have to do is give yourself to the lord to make it right???
don't give me that shit about being addicted and they couldn't control it blah blah blah bullshit. we all know the difference between right and wrong. if you have a family, you man up and take care of that family. i have a little 10 month old now and couldn't imagine being out every night on meth with him home.
ok i'll remember to give a little shit about that guy on my deadbed.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood]
#22077175 - 08/11/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh ..well it's different if they're making it out like you're now the lowlife for not believing what they do, I have met those religious types and still have to deal with them all the time in business. Yeah I can see how that could be annoying.
I was originally thinking about it like it was with my friends, how they went in and came out believing in god and stayed off drugs but continued to use it as a crutch, but they don't try to push it on me or frown on me for not believing it, they did talk about it but not that "I'm holier then you because of my beliefs" spiel. But his kids should obviously come before Jesus and it's depressing that it doesn't/didn't.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood]
#22077215 - 08/11/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think they need something to latch onto that provides nice simple answers to questions they don't understand so they can have the emotional stability to start to rebuild their lives. For lots of serious addicts the high becomes a crutch that they use to escape their problems, so when you take that away they have no tools to solve really frustrating and overwhelming problems. They never build a proper emotional framework to productively handle certain aspects of life that are challenging, and they'd be completely fucked without some kind of help. The god-thing gives them an emotional framework, and it comes with a social support-group to help them understand their problems and to set them strait when they fuck up. Modern psychological therapy is sort of a spin off of what priests have done for a long time. Personally I think it's stupid as fuck to believe in that kind of dogmatic garbage, but I'm privileged enough not to need such crude devices to keep my shit together. Plus, the religious thing is free and readily available to those in need, and it's generally supported by tradition in places where people have bad socioeconomic factors working against them. It has strong appeals to the desperate, and it's better than nothing, but I agree it should never be plan-A for anybody with the better alternatives at their disposal.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood]
#22077330 - 08/11/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think there's beauty to letting go of past transgressions. If Jesus is an allegory for that in his life, go him. What symbols and values are you following? your child? Your duty to society?
Whatever gets you up in the morning and keeps you from being something bigger's lunch, I'm all for it. Hard drugs are pretty big for some people and the only way to minimize it, is if you retain a place for them when they kick the habit. Forgiveness is a powerful thing.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
#22077360 - 08/11/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ohcrapitsnico said: Because becoming religious by itself doesn't actually solve the problem, it doesn't go to the root of the problem of why they're deadbeat addicts.
It's replacing one bad habit with another
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#22077451 - 08/11/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: But his kids should obviously come before Jesus and it's depressing that it doesn't/didn't.
that's ridiculous that someone doesn't love their children enough to quit but atleast they're stopping. I loathe religion but I think it's good for people who easily slip into bad decisions and habits. For those stronger and happy, follow it if they like, I for one choose not to.
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
#22077466 - 08/11/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: if you give yourself to jesus you can redeem years of being worthless [Re: blood4blood]
#22077480 - 08/11/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We'll u know what they say,
god is very forgiving.
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