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Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really.
#22076848 - 08/11/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're going to wage war on drugs, you need to be outfitted like a warrior.
That seems to be the rationale behind hundreds of police department requests for armored trucks submitted to the Pentagon between 2012 and 2014. The requests, unearthed in a FOIA request by Mother Jones magazine, shed light on how the war on drugs has directly contributed to the militarization of local police forces in recent years.
Police departments can request surplus military gear from the Pentagon through the Department of Defense's 1033 program, which doles out hundreds of millions of dollars in military goods to cops each year. The equipment includes everything from underwear to office equipment to armored combat vehicles. After Ferguson, when images of local cops training assault rifles on peaceful protestors from atop armored trucks flooded the airwaves, the program has come under increasing scrutiny.
The Mother Jones investigation focuses on requests for armored combat vehicles, arguably the most iconic piece of police military equipment in the post-Ferguson era. Among the requests Mother Jones obtained, the most frequently-cited rationale for needing an armored vehicle was drugs: "Fully a quarter of the 465 requests projected using the vehicles for drug enforcement," the investigation found. By contrast, police departments rarely cited hostage situations, terrorist attacks or armed gunmen as rationale for obtaining the trucks.
At least seven departments explicitly cited marijuana in their vehicle requests, tying pot with methamphetamines for the drug that shows up most often in the documents. In 2012, Sheriff Tom Bosenko of Shasta County, Calif., requested two armored tactical vehicles to be "used during apprehension of suspects in both Marijuana eradications and during high risk search warrant service for drug offenders."
In 2013, the Sheriff of Sumter County, Fl., requested one armored vehicle partly because his office had located "several marijuana grows both indoors and outdoors" in Sumter County. Here's how other departments wanted to wage war on pot from the gun turret of an armored truck:

Clearwater County, Idaho, has a population of fewer than 10,000 people. It seems like overkill to keep an armored truck on hand for the purpose of "marijuana eradication." This is especially true when you consider that in recent years, the number of marijuana grow sites discovered in the entire state of Idaho can be counted on one hand.
But overkill has been part of the drug war since Day 1. Experts largely agree that the harms inflicted by the way we wage the war on drugs -- incarceration, police killings, gangs fighting over black market turf -- far outweigh the costs to society of drug use itself. The Obama administration has been smartly dialing back the rhetoric and policies of the drug war.
Earlier this year, the administration even started limiting the types of military equipment that police departments can request through the Pentagon's 1033 program. But notably, armored vehicles are still available. So for the time being at least, your local police department can still request what amounts to a tank to deal with a marijuana plot.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/08/11/sheriffs-are-asking-for-armored-trucks-to-wage-war-on-marijuana-yes-really/?tid=pm_business_pop_b
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: empty space]
#22076976 - 08/11/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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At least awareness is spreading.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: musiclover420]
#22077279 - 08/11/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why does it surprise me that two counties from California are taking marijuana so seriously? You'd think they'd invest their money and time on other things over there.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22077311 - 08/11/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bet they are fed up with other counties overflowing with what many of them may see as dangerous federally illegal drugs.
I know mendocino county for instance has a crazy grow seen, I am sure that is the case for many others too, like Humboldt.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: musiclover420]
#22077361 - 08/11/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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this is not new, 100 years this happens
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: misterogerz]
#22077366 - 08/11/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: musiclover420]
#22077486 - 08/11/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: I bet they are fed up with other counties overflowing with what many of them may see as dangerous federally illegal drugs.
I know mendocino county for instance has a crazy grow seen, I am sure that is the case for many others too, like Humboldt.
the irony of course is that a lot of those dangerous federally illegal drugs are being imported by the feds or groups that are -- behind the scenes -- supported by the feds. its almost like the police are using drug policy & mass incarceration to pit their resources against each other in an effort to generate more income or something crazy like that.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: empty space]
#22077605 - 08/11/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah that would be crazy
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: musiclover420]
#22077652 - 08/11/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have heard that the police are afraid of vets returning from recent wars. Lot's of the vets turn to drugs. Who knows how many vets from Vietnam went goofy? Shit goes missing from military armories too. Heard a rumor in Cali about some .50 cal depleted uranium ammo went missing. That shit would go right thru a tank skin.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: Morel Guy]
#22077680 - 08/11/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, let's start a situation where these guys show up with their military shit, then we take it all and hold the cops hostage.
Anyone here with balls? Big balls?
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: empty space]
#22077691 - 08/11/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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empty space said:

Looks like an oven on wheels.
I wonder how the people inside could drive it with axle grease smeared on all the windows, doused in gasoline and on fire?
Tank killing is easy.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: Arctic W. Fox] 1
#22077888 - 08/11/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Arctic W. Fox said: So, let's start a situation where these guys show up with their military shit, then we take it all and hold the cops hostage.
Anyone here with balls? Big balls?
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: misterogerz]
#22078026 - 08/11/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Irregardless if this was for weed or drugs in general, it is very frightening out how quickly the police force is becoming militarized.
When another Civil War erupts within the States, it will be a blood bath between the government and civilians.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: Detached]
#22078919 - 08/11/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fasicm always looks like a characature of itself. Fucking pigs....
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#22080215 - 08/12/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They're going to wage war by running over the plants and all associated materials.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: AEL1911]
#22080288 - 08/12/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What about californias MMJ system? I can see florida doing this but whats the point now? Seriously a civil war over a planf
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: Fractal420]
#22080642 - 08/12/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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America is beyond fucked if the swine are seriously considering this when theres drugs that actually damage society, if anything cannabis makes people not commit serious crimes for a fix. in the end its a fucking conspiracy to get people in prison for cheap labor and profiting.. real sad
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: Mi-Go]
#22082069 - 08/12/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mi-Go said: America is beyond fucked if the swine are seriously considering this when theres drugs that actually damage society, if anything cannabis makes people not commit serious crimes for a fix. in the end its a fucking conspiracy to get people in prison for cheap labor and profiting.. real sad 
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22082733 - 08/12/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So they are gearing up and doing all they can before it becomes legal in California.
I don't think it would surprise me too much if there was a civil war that broke out over cannabis legalization.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: Atreyu]
#22082774 - 08/12/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think it would surprise me too much if there was a civil war that broke out over cannabis legalization.
There should have already been one when they started this BS prohibition in the first place, so many years ago
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: musiclover420]
#22082983 - 08/12/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We all know who the aggressors would be, they would win too.
There is no fairness, if it ever does become legal nationwide, by then our world will be so fucked that it won't even matter.
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Re: Sheriffs are asking for armored trucks to wage war on marijuana. Yes, really. [Re: Atreyu]
#22083106 - 08/12/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We must heed Trevor Moores advice before it is too late:
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