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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22081879 - 08/12/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22081936 - 08/12/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said: Climate change has always been there. There has never been a period of time when climate wasn't changing. When you have a sphere with a sliver of fluid sheathing it, and its spinning and orbiting a heat source, then it will always be dynamic. The climate will never and has never been at a steady state.
And, switching to electricity won't change anything. Most of the electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels (coal and natural gas power plants).
I think if we invest in research on nuclear power, we have a chance to slow down global warming. We would need to really research it though and understand how to contain it.
Climate change though, that's something that has always happened.
The rate of change is unprecedented in the past million years. It is a rate that out paces evolutionary adaptation for species with any substantial life span.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: koods]
#22081971 - 08/12/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you don't trust the data from scientist, there is plenty of evidence that change is happening at an accelerating rate. Glaciers are retreating and vanishing worldwide - features that have existed for millienia are gone in a century or less. The ice caps are are shrinking. The North Pole ice sheet covers less surface area every cycle and Antarctica is even worse as the ice pack depth is practically collapsing. Areas that used the be tens of meters thick are now a few.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: koods]
#22081977 - 08/12/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nuclear is green
in related news i read japan is putting at least one of their reactors backonline dumbasses will never learn
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22082075 - 08/12/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There is currently a serious study that is considered to reduce global warming should it become a real threat.
If you take sulfur dioxide and inject it in the stratosphere, it will bond with water molecules and create a sunscreen that would reduce sunlight by 1% (given the right dose).
So, I'll answer all the questions before they are asked.
Q. Where do you find enough sulfur to fill the entire atmosphere?
- A. Right now, in Fort McMurray, Alberta, there are mountain weighing in at 30 million tons sitting in the doing nothing at all. It is a by product of of the oil sands.
Look for yourself:

Q. Ok, so how much do you need?
- A. Well, you only need a small amount. The way the sulfur dioxide works is wonderful. A few grams of it practically eliminates the effect of one ton of CO2. So all we need is roughly 25000 tons per year.
Q. How do you bring 25000 tons in the stratosphere?
- A. You take 100 F-16 loaded with as much it can carry (let's say a ton for example), therefore they would need to do 250 exits each per year. Easily achievable. There are 1.1 million commercial flights per year just to give you a reference.
Q. If you unload over the US, how does it spread all over the planet?
- A. The winds in the stratosphere would equally distribute the sulfur dioxide all across the planet including the polls in less than 2 weeks.
Q. How much does it cost?
- A. An estimates 700 million dollars. Essentially, the jet fuel and the pilots. The sulfur itself is super cheap
Q. What's the catch?
- A. You can't unring that bell.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22082378 - 08/12/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Japan was fucking stupid to put a nuclear power plant on the beach. I mean, come on, Tsunami is a Japanese word FFS. You need lots of water for cooling purposes, but a reservoir is relatively easy to build.
So, it's about location. Put the plant somewhere that won't cause a global catastrophe if there is a melt down. But, more important, research how to minimize the potential for a meltdown. Nuclear actually is pretty green when done right.
Solar, Wind, Hydro, etc. doesn't produce enough power to sustain our need for it.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22082495 - 08/12/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the earth is always changing, shit always happens, there is no safe place to put nuclear, there is no right way. Until we know how to actually shut them down, and find a way to do something with the waste. as it stands we are so fucking clueless we make them into bullets and shoot them at people
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22082516 - 08/12/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There have been more oil spills than nuclear disasters. And, oil spills are devastating to the environment. I'm telling ya, We are addicted to oil and energy, the only thing that we can replace oil with is nuclear power. Sure, nothing is fool proof. But, if we don't switch over soon, we are in for a rude awakening.
Everything runs on oil. Once oil is too expensive to use, everything will shut down. It will be utter chaos. Nuclear power could help us avoid that.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22082531 - 08/12/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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oil spills are harmful but only for a short amount of time.
Nuclear damages DNA, life changed FOREVER..........not even close, not even close.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22082836 - 08/12/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You guys bashing our renewable energies, some is better than the none we are using to help ween us off our oil addiction. I'm not saying nuclear won't work but we definelty need to increase our risk assessment as a species before we dabble into things that could destroy us..
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22082884 - 08/12/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Geo thermal
We need fusion
This is definitely the potential savior, and one tough nut to crack (fusion). For a very long time some have said it was :20 years away: from coming to fruition. Problem being, it continues to be 20 years away.
Sometimes I wonder if a global-scale Manhattan Project type of endeavor could yield faster gains in this area. Luckily though, we have finally seen enough research progress recently to suggest a 20-30 year timeline might finally be accurate.
To the poster who said "no one is denying it" though, I have to disagree. All over the place you see entities trying to codify denial into law. For example in NC, a state with a lot of low-lying coastal lands, state government has essentially made it illegal for state and local planning agencies to account for the probable consequences; apparently burying one's head in the sand is their preferred approach.
There is little doubt that the issue is used as a political football by some, but IMO anyone who denies man's considerable contribution to accelerated change is simply not scientifically literate enough to make such a determination in the first place.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: Psilocybend]
#22082910 - 08/12/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psilocybend said: You guys bashing our renewable energies, some is better than the none we are using to help ween us off our oil addiction. I'm not saying nuclear won't work but we definelty need to increase our risk assessment as a species before we dabble into things that could destroy us..
thats just it we really don't even need energy, we managed to live just fine for thousands of years mostly without it, and now with our more advanced technologys the way they lived in the past could be greatly improved by using just a tiny bit of energy that could be produced at home.
then have just the major citys/capitals or something use real power committed to researching technologys, space travel, ect.
bottom line is the risk vs reward just isn't worth having hundreds of nuclear reactors littered around everywhere, its stupid plain and simple.
energy makes life easier, thats it, and in return we get pollution, dead animals, mutated genes and eventually completely wiped off earth, totally worth
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22083244 - 08/12/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We're addicted to oil and coal. Coal is where we get most of our electricity from. Even if we got fusion to work we still use oil for almost everything from plastic to countless chemicals. There are 7 gallons of oil in every tire. So it's not just a discussion about energy.
The good news is there is no imminent death coming from climate change any time soon. As fast as technology is changing the world I don't think it will be long until we find a much better energy source.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: searching]
#22083639 - 08/12/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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with that attitude anything is possible 
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: zZZz]
#22083799 - 08/12/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We understand all of the ways we are changing the atmosphere and the environment. Within the last couple decades the attitude towards global warming has shifted from skeptical to an almost panicked state. Couple that with the fact that we also understand how fusion and fission work tells me that we will find a way.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: searching]
#22083804 - 08/12/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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no doubt, no doubt
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: searching]
#22083814 - 08/12/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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what i don't understand is how the universe manages to not only create it, but created billions of stars. not only did it manage to create it, but it managed to do it at freezeinggggggggggggggggggg temps and then manages to keep them running for billionssssssss of years.
meanwhile every form of energy we have is flawed in some way
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22083820 - 08/12/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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almost makes you wonder if the key to doing it, is doing it in space. and if our dumbasses manage to do it, we will prob turn earth into a giant fucking fireball because we are retarded like that and do shit before we understand it cuss of $$$$$$
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22083826 - 08/12/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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space is ded, like zed
it;s timeless, nothing can live there, yet, everything can live there..
that's why our little bubble is so precious
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: zZZz]
#22083848 - 08/12/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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wasn't their theorys that the hydrogen collider thingy would create a tiny blackhole and suck earth or something into it, like they were saying a 1% chance that could happen and that they weren't really sure what was going to happen, then they turned it on anyway
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