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MikeBearPig
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Global Warming / Climate Change
#22076242 - 08/11/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Still... In 2015, I can't believe this topic is still around... Give up people, we are going to die.
Nobody is denying climate change is happening, what people are denying that it is totally man driven. Which even now looks silly.. We are merely buying a few years at the rate we are changing. This force has been in a process for over 10,000 years and we are just now seeing the tail end of it, face it.. We need to start preparing for climate change rather than trying to fight it.
You can dispel climate with a simple explanation:
Let's say you have a Ice block. It's ice because it is sitting in an environment that allows it to stay ice.
Now, this ice block is in a small room. You turn on the heater and crank it up, it does not matter what number, any number that satisfies you that is sufficient enough to melt the ice.
The heating of the room compared to how fast the ice is melting..
The heating happens in what is seemingly instant, while the sculpture takes time.. A time much longer than the heating of the room to melt.
What this story outlines is what we are seeing and facing today. We can't go back and turn the heater off, we are just now starting to see it's rapid affect on us, it is far too late.. I don't think for a single second that if everybody on the planet switches to electricity that it will make any significant difference in how the earth cycles it's co2.
At one point, all the carbon that in and what things are made of was part of earth. It's not like we are just "making" c02.. It has always been a part, we just found a way to interrupt the cycle by adding more in at a time. Nobody is even addressing that it is our meat industry that is another major factor of our pollution, we just have not found a sufficient way to make money off of it yet.
How about some crazy indoor cow operation where it collects the gas to produce it's own electricity? Just saying.. We have ways to make use of these wasteful operation's, nobody is willing to tackle it though.
I am at a loss of what to decide to do other than move away from coast lines and expect people to lose their shit when it goes down. It's been in front of us this whole time, it's just now only for money making. I am also aware that, if we need to evolve as a species, climate change is a good reason and I will only support it for the biproduct that it will be a step in the right direction... Not a step to save our planet, but us. We should be raping this planet for everything it has to colonize space and secure our future, not live and try to keep holding onto the past.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: MikeBearPig] 2
#22076272 - 08/11/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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we can't live in space, its a waste of resources to try and setup space colonys, all that does is waste what we have. Shit on earth gets recycled, shit in space is lost forever. Until we have the technology to actually make it to a planet that can sustain live on its own, there is no point. probes, and astroid mining have actual uses for earth however.
also the amount of heat humans produce is substantial, turning off all the heat, shutting down planes, ect, would radically change earth
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22076287 - 08/11/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: Until we have the technology to actually make it to a planet that can sustain live on its own
Wasn't this a planet that could sustain life on it's own until the interference of technology?
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: Dilsnique]
#22076294 - 08/11/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dilsnique said:
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makaveli8x8 said: Until we have the technology to actually make it to a planet that can sustain live on its own
Wasn't this a planet that could sustain life on it's own until the interference of technology?
The planet has killed 99.99% of the species before we showed up..
It kills endlessly with out mercy, on a mass scale that makes Hitler look like child's play.
Humans are just showing up at the final moment trying to take credit for it. Everything was destined to die until we came along.. Now it seems that we don't want to face that reality that maybe everything was meant to die for the creation of us..
Edited by MikeBearPig (08/11/15 01:07 PM)
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: MikeBearPig]
#22076341 - 08/11/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: Dilsnique]
#22076481 - 08/11/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like a fuck it attitude. This could hurt the planet. Fuck it. Oops it did. Oh well fuck it. What's next to fuck?
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MikeBearPig
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thebitterbuffalo26 said: Sounds like a fuck it attitude. This could hurt the planet. Fuck it. Oops it did. Oh well fuck it. What's next to fuck?
It's really not a fuck it attitude.. I just feel like they are misleading people to bring us to the future.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: MikeBearPig] 1
#22076799 - 08/11/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not going to disagree with your main argument, but the focus of global climate change is the fact that human activities are speeding up the process. This will result in catastrophes that are reoccurring more often and more violently. Never on a human time scale had c02 been this prevalent in our atmosphere and that is why we attribute it to our being here, we are adding on quickly and heavily to the natural order of things. Either way the planet will be here long after we are so don't worry about it, we need to worry about our species if we want to prosper in this universe.
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: Psilocybend]
#22077441 - 08/11/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psilocybend said: I'm not going to disagree with your main argument, but the focus of global climate change is the fact that human activities are speeding up the process. This will result in catastrophes that are reoccurring more often and more violently. Never on a human time scale had c02 been this prevalent in our atmosphere and that is why we attribute it to our being here, we are adding on quickly and heavily to the natural order of things. Either way the planet will be here long after we are so don't worry about it, we need to worry about our species if we want to prosper in this universe.
I agree that the main argument is that it is speeding it up. I just don't see it changing anything 12,000 years into this cycle of warming. Anything we do now is just a drop in the bucket, 10-100 years added before the first catastrophe.
We might not even make the world "green" by the time the oceans suck up the coast line, we are just moving way too fucking slow. Our idea's cannot permeate culture fast enough.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: MikeBearPig] 1
#22077532 - 08/11/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Climate change has always been there. There has never been a period of time when climate wasn't changing. When you have a sphere with a sliver of fluid sheathing it, and its spinning and orbiting a heat source, then it will always be dynamic. The climate will never and has never been at a steady state.
And, switching to electricity won't change anything. Most of the electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels (coal and natural gas power plants).
I think if we invest in research on nuclear power, we have a chance to slow down global warming. We would need to really research it though and understand how to contain it.
Climate change though, that's something that has always happened.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22077653 - 08/11/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fusion fusion fusion. If we don't get it we will be in caves again because everything is going to run out and solar and wind have no chance of being more than supplemental
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: zappaisgod]
#22078158 - 08/11/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i still don't understand how we still have so many nuclear reactors, we know that its not a question of if, but when, something is going to fuck up, or fuck it up. All that shit over in japan and somehow everyone pretends everything is under control and it won't happen here? how many times does it have to happen before we decide oh thats just too many nuclear disasters
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22078165 - 08/11/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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honestly, this planet could use a new ice age. mmm, refreshing! *draws a dick in the frost*
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: MikeBearPig]
#22078624 - 08/11/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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MikeBearPig said:
I am at a loss of what to decide to do other than move away from coast lines and expect people to lose their shit when it goes down.
dude... the ice caps melted in 2007 just like al gore said, there's no way he could be wrong since he invented the internet, of course the y2k bu already killed half the people when it plunged us into total darkness and those that were not killed off by those events died in 2012
so, you wanna know what to do... nothing because there's no fucking catastrophic event going to happen, the ice caps havent melted and while they appear to be getting smaller to the alarmists they actually grew in 2008 and 2009 and all those melting glaciers....
http://www.livescience.com/48256-asia-karakoram-glaciers-stability.html
and somehow, global warming is creating more ice
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2680519/Global-warming-creating-MORE-glaciers-Antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-record-high-climate-change-scientists-claim.html
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22078657 - 08/11/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i thought i heard overall total ice was melting tho, like over in that greenland/iceland area shits melting i think, and they were saying a town in alaska was about to melt and people would have to swim to a new ice shelf like seals or something when that happens.
also thought i heard the south pole was melting and thats why russia dropped flags because soon people will be able to farm minerals ect, so yah im pretty certain shit be meltin
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22081236 - 08/12/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We don't need nuclear power, we have so many forms of renewable energy to utilize that we take for granted. Solar, wind, hydro, electric to name a few. We have to necessities for a green renewable planet but like always humans have found a way to fuck everything up. -_-
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: MikeBearPig]
#22081368 - 08/12/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's all the fucken road ways made of tar and concrete, they're like man made deserts and they're fucking up the ecosystem.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: Psilocybend] 1
#22081767 - 08/12/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psilocybend said: We don't need nuclear power, we have so many forms of renewable energy to utilize that we take for granted. Solar, wind, hydro, electric to name a few. We have to necessities for a green renewable planet but like always humans have found a way to fuck everything up. -_-
solar is inefficient and a heavy polluter, hydro destroys millions of acres of arable land and wildlife habitat in addition to the trees, wind turbines are efficient but also pollute like solar but directly kill wild life
the closest to green energy there is is nuclear
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22081772 - 08/12/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Geo thermal
We need fusion
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Change [Re: zappaisgod]
#22081785 - 08/12/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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harnes the power of politicians!
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