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AllyKat
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Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms?
#22076206 - 08/11/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A friend of a friend typically grows from spore syringes using variations of PF TEK. He has done this for over a decade.
However, recently, he had some awesome shrooms that were ground into a powder. He does not know what kind of shroom they were, and he has no way of obtaining more. He would like to attempt to grow more of these shrooms, using the small amount of remaining powder. He has seen posts about using agar, and he has seem some other posts about making a slurry and applying to rye.
Yes, he realizes this is a long-shot.
Yes, he realizes contamination risks will be very high.
Yes, he realizes it would be easier to just give up on the idea.
But...he is very motivated.
If he were to try this, what would be the best and most effective way to proceed? Is it even possible to use a dried shroom powder to grow more shrooms?
Many thanks for your suggestions.
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: AllyKat]
#22076232 - 08/11/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: cronicr]
#22076250 - 08/11/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fuck yes you guys! Thanks for asking, AllyKat and thanks for the link, cron. Never heard of this technique before and was wondering if it was viable too.
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: cronicr]
#22076252 - 08/11/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Too funny. That link opened up right at my reply. The answer is yes. I have since done it. I grew cubes from a bag that my buddy had
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: hamloaf]
#22076281 - 08/11/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: Fuck yes you guys! Thanks for asking, AllyKat and thanks for the link, cron. Never heard of this technique before and was wondering if it was viable too.
it was considered one of the best /easiest ways to store a culture
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: tahoe]
#22076288 - 08/11/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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tahoe said: Too funny. That link opened up right at my reply. The answer is yes. I have since done it. I grew cubes from a bag that my buddy had
that's why i posted that one
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: cronicr]
#22076307 - 08/11/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's doable. I suspect you will need bit of agar.
There was a guy who posted in the gourmet section who took dried oyster mushrooms from the grocery store and stuffed them into holes he drilled in a fallen log in the forest. He got fruits off it.
Cube mycelium isn't as beastly as oyster mushroom mycelium tho, so it won't be as easy as dumping the mushroom powder into a pile of pasteurized poo.
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: AllyKat]
#22076353 - 08/11/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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AllyKat said: A friend of a friend
Am I the only one that sees right thru this? lol
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cronicr



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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: PussyFart]
#22076374 - 08/11/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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he's from 03 and his friend of a friend is probably swimming somewhere
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: cronicr]
#22076453 - 08/11/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, learn something new everyday.
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: PussyFart]
#22076456 - 08/11/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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AllyKat said: A friend of a friend
Am I the only one that sees right thru this? lol
Someone who isn't me is thinking yes. Yes you are the only one who sees right through that.
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: hamloaf]
#22076499 - 08/11/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The whole ground up dried mushroom thing is kind of simular to what happens to the ps cyan patches that grow near the bay area. Come summer time the mycelium filled wood chips totally dry up. Ground temps reach 130+ and there is no sign of life. The wood chips get blown around by the wind. But come fall and some rain the wood chips spring back to life. The mycelium grows out of the wood and grabs the other wood chips. Next thing you know there is a solid mat of wood chips. They have come back to life.
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: tahoe]
#22076548 - 08/11/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holly shit!!! You learn something new everyday Today's fact just happened to be one of the most interesting I've learned on here Thanks everyone
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: tahoe]
#22076568 - 08/11/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's ridiculous
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AllyKat
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: ratisse]
#22077679 - 08/11/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, guys, back in the ol' days all the threads started with "AFOAF." 
In any case...
AFOAF has no experience with agar. I have looked in the teks, and it seems that AFOAF can order agar already in a petri dish from various vendors. Is this an ok way to go?
Has anyone put this in a tek with step by step instructions? There is very little powder left, so it is important to proceed with as few mistakes as possible.
I will make this even more old school by signing my post...
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cronicr



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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: AllyKat]
#22077731 - 08/11/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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no step by step but if you make this a log we would be more then glad to help ya out, pre-ordered agar is expensive but it works..agar is pretty easy to do on your own andif your going to order agar...why not just order new spores?
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AllyKat
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: cronicr]
#22077795 - 08/11/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ya see...
There are plenty of spores. The issue is that the mushroom powder in the bag was a spectacular, amazing, mind blowing, euphoric treasure. And, nobody knows what the mushrooms were, and there is no way to find out what they were or get in touch with the person they came from.
With 12 years of growing shrooms, never experienced anything like that before ever.
So, yeah. Making more of these beauties is worth a lot.
If making agar is easy enough, that is fine too. Would you recommend that? I will turn this into a log.
In any case, once the agar is in the petri dish, should the dried shrooms just be added to the agar? Do I need to re-hydrate them first?
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: AllyKat]
#22077811 - 08/11/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yep pasty's easy agar tek is stickied here in cult, give that a whirl! as for rehydrating there should be enough moisture in the agar to do it but i'll see what i can dig up for ya here i've done it myself
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: cronicr]
#22077860 - 08/11/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you for your help! I will check out the Tek.
Here is another question...since we do not know if these were cubensis or another type of shroom, what is the safest medium to grow on if we get healthy mycellium out of this? Based on the effects, we think it is possible they were Panaelous or Psilocybe Cyanescen.
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: cronicr]
#22077906 - 08/11/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've found 1/4 pint jars with no holes in the lid work way better than Petri dishes.
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Re: Is it possible to grow from ground, dried, shrooms? [Re: fastlearner]
#22077998 - 08/11/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wouldn't the mushrooms being dried with a dehydrator kill the ability to do this?
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