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OfflineKonyap

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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: King Klick]
    #22079932 - 08/12/15 05:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

if you make a garden you pretty much guarantee bugs and birds to be nearby


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22080139 - 08/12/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Very interesting article, some real "food for thought"! The numbers part was pretty alarming, especially that 17 million gallons of the 800 million spent annually on lawn care in the US is just spilled. I don't know how they quantify something like that, but it could be true.  Every time I fill my mower, I spill a bit because my gas can is kinda fucked up.  I never considered the cumulative amount.

Thing is though, I like having a mown lawn.  My sons play in the yard a lot, my fiancé and I picnic in it.  We couldn't do any of that if it was overgrown.  It looks nice and trim all shorn.  I even like doing the mowing; it's a satisfying chore that yields immediate results.  So I'd probably still mow even if I wasn't legally obligated to, but maybe not as much.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #22080157 - 08/12/15 07:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

As a kid, we used to have a big ass meadow (well, for my standards; maybe 3 acres) behind the house. It was mowed maybe once a year or once every two years by a farmer living nearby. In the late autumn, if the weather would have been dry for a few days, we would burn off the dry patches of grass. Our goats used to graze it. I can assure you that as a kid, it was a lot more fun playing in that wild grass than it was playing on the neatly manicured lawns of my friends. And we picnicked in it too; why not? Put down a plaid if you don't like to sit directly in the grass.

It's really about conditioning and conventions. If you dare to break them, you'll see you can enjoy yourself just as much in a wild patch of grass as on a tidy lawn. Heck, even more so.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: koraks]
    #22080170 - 08/12/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That is your personal preference and is fine, but it does not align with my own. I would not want to trample down waist high vegetation to put down a blanket just to not be able to see around me as I sit in the middle of a bunch of plants.  Overgrown vegetation harbors ticks, which may not be a huge problem where you live, but it is here.  Also, one of my sons cannot walk and a meadow poses obstacles and dangers to him.

I do not have goats.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #22080171 - 08/12/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You might have to resolve the goat situation.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #22080180 - 08/12/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Probably need to start a gofundme to help defer the cost of
purchasing and maintaining
an organic lawnmower... :goat: 

also,




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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22080191 - 08/12/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My frontyard is a jungle. At first neighbours complained, but then I complained that their yards look like stone wastelands, and now nobody is talking anymore.

I should get a goat!


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22080264 - 08/12/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I love the chives idea.

Brialliant and delicious.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22080296 - 08/12/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A mowed yard is a convenience. Don't care about the natural eco system it may bring. You can do that through other means besides just being lazy which you veil under being environmentally friendly. Gardens attract all kinds of wild life, and they don't require just letting whatever naturally pops up grow endlessly.

I live in Texas, we have tons of snakes you do not want to cross. Have fun with your hospital bills.

Want something other than mundane grass? Get creative with it. Just letting everything grow wild is nothing more than a lazy/cheap cop out.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22080302 - 08/12/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

In some places, if you don't mow, the city will send someone to do it and then bill you. Bastards.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: psi]
    #22080344 - 08/12/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck lawns. I got weeds to mow


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22080351 - 08/12/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I keep the front lawn mowed because I like to be a good neighbor. I don't water it though. The back lawn doesn't get mowed very often at all. It's been several months.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22080381 - 08/12/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Eggtimer said:
Mowing has to be one of the silliest things ever. Waste resources and hurt the environment.
The smell of grass is the grass warning it's neighboring grass it's getting killed. It's basically screaming for help.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140922145805.htm

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Trauma, that’s what. It’s the smell of chemical defenses and first aid. The fresh, “green” scent of a just-mowed lawn is the lawn trying to save itself from the injury you just inflicted.

Leafy plants release a number of volatile organic compounds called green leaf volatiles (GLVs). When the plants are injured, whether through animals grazing on them, you cutting or mowing them, or even just unintentionally rough handling, these emissions increase like crazy.

The rush of chemicals does a few things. Some of the compounds stimulate the formation of new cells at the wound site so it closes faster. Others act as antibiotics that prevent bacterial infection and inhibit fungal growth. A few spur the production of defensive compounds at un-wounded sites as sort of a pre-emptive fortification. And still others react with other chemicals to act as something like distress signals. Scientists found in one study that the saliva of certain caterpillars reacts with the GLVs released by coyote tobacco plants to make them attractive to the "big-eyed bugs" that regularly eat the caterpillars.

Thankfully, the mix of lawnmower blades and GLVs won't get you eaten. Instead, humans get a treat. Among the GLVs released by damaged grass are a group of eight related oxygenated hydrocarbons, including aldehydes and alcohols, that cause the “green odor.”

There may be a high cost to that wonderful smell, though. These compounds are precursors to ozone formation, according to Australian researchers, and can contribute to the formation of photochemical smog in urban areas.




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The smell of cut grass in recent years has been identified as the plant’s way of signalling distress, but new research says the aroma also summons beneficial insects to the rescue.

“When there is need for protection, the plant signals the environment via the emission of volatile organic compounds, which are recognized as a feeding queue for parasitic wasps to come to the plant that is being eaten and lay eggs in the pest insect,” said Dr. Michael Kolomiets, Texas A&M AgriLife Research plant pathologist in College Station.

The research stems from a look at the function of a large family of lipid-derived molecular signals that regulate differential processes in humans, animals and plants, according to Kolomiets, whose research was published in The Plant Journal.

In an effort to better understand these signals, the U.S. Department of Agriculture is granting Kolomiets $490,000 in 2015 to study how the signals may also impact drought tolerance.

The molecular signals are less understood in plants than in animals and humans, he noted.

“People take certain drugs such as aspirin to suppress the activity of these signals, because overproduction of these molecules may lead to headaches and pain and all sorts of disorders,” Kolomiets said. “It’s the same group of metabolites that are produced by the plants, but we know so little about them.”

Yet a plant does “communicate” when attacked – whether by blade of a mower or jaws of a predatory insect – by producing defensive proteins and secondary metabolites either to repel the pest or make itself less appetizing, he said. What happens next is what scientists have been trying to figure out.

The best characterized molecule of the fatty acid-derived signals is called jasmonic acid, because it was first isolated as a volatile produced by jasmine, Kolomiets said. Jasmonic acid, one of perhaps 600 oxylipin molecules identified in plants, is known to have diverse functions. Another volatile group derived from fatty acid is known as the green leaf volatiles.

To test how it functions in plant during insect attacks, Kolomiets and his team used a mutant corn plant that could not produce the green leaf volatiles, mown-grass smell when cut or torn.

And that’s when they observed that the parasitic wasps didn’t pay attention to plants without the green leaf volatile.

“There are actually two roles for this molecule,” he said. “First, it activates the jasmonate hormone, which involves activation of defenses against insects on the plant. Then this molecule, since it is a volatile, attracts parasitic wasps. They come to the plant that is being chewed up by insect herbivores and lay eggs in the caterpillar’s body.

“We have proven that when you delete these volatiles, parasitic wasps are no longer attracted to that plant,even when an insect chews on the leaf. So this volatile is required to attract parasitoids. We have provided genetic evidence that green leafy volatiles have this dual function — in the plant they activate production of insecticidal compounds, but also they have indirect defense capability because they send an SOS-type signal that results in attraction of parasitic wasps.”

Kolomiets tested the phenomena both in the lab and in the field.

“We did not have to do any artificial infestation, because we had plenty of insects,” he said. “We have discovered that even under the field conditions when there’s enough insect pressure, then the plants are more susceptible to insect damage when they lack the green leaf volatiles.”

Kolomiets hopes to continue the research by testing the impact of the presence of jasmonates and green leaf volatiles in other grassy crops such as sorghum.

“This is just a tip of the iceberg. We have found that this gene is required for many, many different physiological processes, such as drought tolerance,” he said.“We observed that mutant plants are drought susceptible as well as susceptible to insect feeding. We are trying to identify the exact function of green leafy volatiles in drought tolerance and how it works.”

Such findings may help plant breeders know how to develop new varieties that are more resistant to insects and drought, he noted.








Wait so you're telling me that everytime I enjoy the scent of freshly mown grass i'm actually celebrating their survival of death?

That's metal as fuck


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Beanhead]
    #22080411 - 08/12/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Beanhead said:
Wait so you're telling me that everytime I enjoy the scent of freshly mown grass i'm actually celebrating their survival of death?

That's metal as fuck





*mowed

is it their survival you're celebrating or is it that you're rejoicing in the butchering and allowing to live of the defenseless grasses

decomposing grass is one of the largest sources of methane so not only are you
destroying the environment with hydrocarbons you're destroying it with the dead
grass as well... you've doomed us all beanhead


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InvisibleBurke Dennings
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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22080417 - 08/12/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

"Mown" is a past tense of mow.


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OfflineBeanhead
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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22080419 - 08/12/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks

Nah I feed my grass to chickens, so I guess not only do I chop off their heads, I also enjoy watching the remaining parts get devoured.

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I do it by hand :crankey:

Quote:

Burke Dennings said:
"Mown" is a past tense of mow.




Phew I was feeling dumb.


Edited by Beanhead (08/12/15 08:43 AM)


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
    #22080507 - 08/12/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Burke Dennings said:
"Mown" is a past tense of mow.



Actually, "mown" is the past-participle of "mow".  "Mowed" is the past tense.

Examples:

"I mowed the grass"
"freshly-mown grass"


Still, in Beanhead's sentence, the past-participle is correct. 

You and pris both just got MWNED.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #22080515 - 08/12/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ur mums a past-participle


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Enlil]
    #22080520 - 08/12/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Enlil said:
Quote:

Burke Dennings said:
"Mown" is a past tense of mow.



Actually, "mown" is the past-participle of "mow".  "Mowed" is the past tense.

Examples:

"I mowed the grass"
"freshly-mown grass"


Still, in Beanhead's sentence, the past-participle is correct. 

You and pris both just got MWNED.



If I could +100 you for being able to correct Burke, I would.


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Re: Well written article about why mowing your lawn is doing far more harm than good. please read [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 2
    #22080522 - 08/12/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My mom is way past being a past-participle.  She's now a past-ciple.  She was, however, a past-participle in the past.  Part of being a past-participle is only being part of a ciple.  Since she past that part, and partly past being a past-participle, she's a past-ciple.


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