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InvisibleBill_Oreilly
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Question about LSD
    #22075308 - 08/11/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So I have some blotters. I want to store them in the fridge and vacuum seal them..but my question is...when the tabs are in foil and you vacuum seal them, will the LSD rub off on the foil because the vacuum-seal is causing the foil to be pressing up hard against the blotter?

you know the all the air gets sucked out and it squeezes in...well the tabs are going to be squeezed against the foil so will it the actives rub off?

thanks.


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22075330 - 08/11/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
So I have some blotters. I want to store them in the fridge and vacuum seal them..but my question is...when the tabs are in foil and you vacuum seal them, will the LSD rub off on the foil because the vacuum-seal is causing the foil to be pressing up hard against the blotter?

you know the all the air gets sucked out and it squeezes in...well the tabs are going to be squeezed against the foil so will it the actives rub off?

thanks.



Assuming your lsd is dealer grade nothing should rub off ive stored lsd in plastic baggies for weeks carried in pocket didnt noticed any major loss of potency.


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InvisibleBill_Oreilly
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Re: Question about LSD [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22075353 - 08/11/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you storing them in plastic baggies has nothing to do with my question.


im asking if, due to to the vacuum seal making the foil suck up right against the tabs, if that would make any lsd run off.


and I have never heard of you in my life and you are just another no-name shroomery noob...you have no right to be in on the whole dealer grade joke. Ive taken shits that's tripped harder than you, kid.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22075365 - 08/11/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
you storing them in plastic baggies has nothing to do with my question.


im asking if, due to to the vacuum seal making the foil suck up right against the tabs, if that would make any lsd run off.


and I have never heard of you in my life and you are just another no-name shroomery noob...you have no right to be in on the whole dealer grade joke. Ive taken shits that's tripped harder than you, kid.




What about space grade


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22075369 - 08/11/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yea but why would it rub off do you set your refrigerator to vibrate or something


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InvisibleBill_Oreilly
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Re: Question about LSD [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22075383 - 08/11/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

well isn't the whole reason we store LSD in foil it to prevent it rubbing off? The point is LSD can rub off...and I was just wondering if it can rub off on foil if the foil is sucked up against the tabs because of the vacuum seal.


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22075389 - 08/11/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22075427 - 08/11/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I dont think so, IME which is very limited for lsd mind you compared other shroomerites, most blotters are too porous compared to foil and its mainly friction that you have to worry about.

Ive seen a lot of guys claim it remaining good for 1-2years vaccum sealed on foil in the freezer on reddit and the nexus. Some dudes suggest a desiccant or paper towel wrapped around the foil but it doesnt seem necessary.

Sorry I cant offer more help :goodluck:


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22075511 - 08/11/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

tabs do remain as potent as they were and if any actives do get rubbed against the foil the loss should be miniscule I could be wrong though :shrug:, but I havent noticed any such degradation, in-between the pages of a book for storing is good too for years


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: Elff]
    #22075590 - 08/11/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i doubt it.  the acid is absorbed into the blotter.  i really don't think it would get rubbed off.


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #22075622 - 08/11/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

what i was thinking


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: mrbart4444] * 1
    #22075691 - 08/11/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The LSD is embedded throughout the entire piece of paper in the form of tiny crystals. Your paper is rife with it. It doesn't matter what happens to the outer surface of the paper. Those crystals can be rubbed right off, and probably are frequently, without any significant change in the amount of LSD contained in the paper. You can touch it with plastic, foil and even handle it with your bare hands and have no issues with a change in potency whatsoever.


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: healing] * 2
    #22075746 - 08/11/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome, thanks guy.

today is a good day...my "friend" just got a sheet of WoW "fluff"

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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #22075795 - 08/11/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:seriousthumbsup: fuck yes


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22076000 - 08/11/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

vaccum sealed bags may suck all the air out and then actually be sealed, but after about 8 hours that bag is going to start letting, scent, moisture and air into the bag. it will continue to let these things in and out of the bag until the pressure inside the bag is the same as the atmospheric pressure outside.

  and yes the same thing will happen with glass canning jars, the molocules seap through and around hte glass and plastic molcules untill its on the outside, or if the pressure is less in the bag it will seap through until inside the bag is the same pressure, then more than liely stuff still seaps both ways.

  so that being said i would never allow my lsd anywhere near any source of moisture,heat or light. never have i ever put it in the freezer or fridge. because if it doesnt ruin the lsd inside, once you take it out and the moisture turns from ice to water inside the bag and then ruins the lsd.


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: whitelights]
    #22076039 - 08/11/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

uhhhhhh not so sure about that. your L will be fine sealed up like that bro. it probably dosent even need all that


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: whitelights]
    #22076051 - 08/11/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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vaccum sealed bags may suck all the air out and then actually be sealed, but after about 8 hours that bag is going to start letting, scent, moisture and air into the bag. it will continue to let these things in and out of the bag until the pressure inside the bag is the same as the atmospheric pressure outside.

  and yes the same thing will happen with glass canning jars, the molocules seap through and around hte glass and plastic molcules untill its on the outside, or if the pressure is less in the bag it will seap through until inside the bag is the same pressure, then more than liely stuff still seaps both ways.

  so that being said i would never allow my lsd anywhere near any source of moisture,heat or light. never have i ever put it in the freezer or fridge. because if it doesnt ruin the lsd inside, once you take it out and the moisture turns from ice to water inside the bag and then ruins the lsd.




Yeah. That sounds like a bunch of bullshit. Have you ever grown mushrooms? You don't want anything seeping in and growing on your substrate, you know? That's kind of the point of vacuum sealing or using canning jars, they don't allow anything to seep in, like for years. That's why canning jars were invented, to store food for long periods of time.


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: healing]
    #22076659 - 08/11/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No.It'll be fine.I use to store sheets of l in those 50cent containers that are kinda big with them wrapped in foil.


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: IISkuNkII]
    #22077180 - 08/11/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

First the foil is used to prevent air exposure to the blotter, not the keep it from touching things.

People put blotter in foil inside of a book for years and I'm fairly certain the book exerts more pressure on the foil to the tabs than a vacuum sealed bag would

And as others said when it's dropped it seaps into the paper and soaks it, then dries, doesn't just sit atop it waiting to be scraped off


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Re: Question about LSD [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22077282 - 08/11/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Foil is also used to block out light/Intense Uv light i always thought.:confused:


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