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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Sheekle]
    #22083998 - 08/12/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So would this suggest that taking MDMA with a strong antioxidant like match a or blueberries would help reduce damages?



Take it with ALpha-Lipoic acid



Have you tried it? I'm going to a festival this weekend and might roll so I'll try it out


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22084031 - 08/12/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've never rolled before, but I used to take ALA as a supplement on it's own. Many report significantly diminished side-effects after a roll when supplementing with ALA. Make sure you get the right isomer of it, though. Look into it a little, I forget which one is the good one. There's R-isomer, S-isomer, and racemic, and one of them is the best.

EDIT: R-isomer is the good one. Racemic can still do the job, but that's basically just a ratio of R nd S. Look for R-isomer

Be careful with all the MDMA though man, you've been doing a lot lately from what I've seen on the forums.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22084137 - 08/13/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The most dangerous thing about it is the fact that it isn't legal and regulated.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22084159 - 08/13/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

thanks man and yea I have been. I got a zip a while back and have just been dipping into it wayyy to much. Time for a long break, I'm thinking atleast a couple months before I'll do it again


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22084175 - 08/13/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The fact that the first MDMA roll is always the best one makes me suspicious it does do permanent damage the first roll.

Once you lose the magic you are usually fucked. No other drug is like that to my knowledge. Not after just one use of X drug.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22084198 - 08/13/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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thanks man and yea I have been. I got a zip a while back and have just been dipping into it wayyy to much. Time for a long break, I'm thinking atleast a couple months before I'll do it again




Holy shit man, by a zip do u mean an oz?!

That's awesome! I plan on getting a large amount in the near future just because its good shit right now and I wanna stockpile while the goings good. An oz seems like a little much tho lol.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22084207 - 08/13/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Uhhh heroin.... And a lot of drugs are like that. The first time is always magical because it's your very first experience going Into that mind frame. For me MDMA has never lost that amazing magical touch it has :crazy: brings a smile to my face just thinking about it


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22084209 - 08/13/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The first hit of meth is also the best you will ever get. Same with crack or heroin.

Meth can do dopamine system damage on the first use as well.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22084211 - 08/13/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Between my friends, me and sharing at festivals I think it's easily been 2 in the last couple years


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22084219 - 08/13/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The first hit of meth is also the best you will ever get. Same with crack or heroin.

Meth can do dopamine system damage on the first use as well.




Not true at all. IMO meth never loses the magic. If you IV it you can push it further and further as you get more balls and do higher doses. My best rush way towards the end of my usage when I pushed the envelope.

MDMA is always a good time, but the first few times are always the best. :smile:


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22084223 - 08/13/15 12:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Uhhh heroin.... And a lot of drugs are like that. The first time is always magical because it's your very first experience going Into that mind frame. For me MDMA has never lost that amazing magical touch it has :crazy: brings a smile to my face just thinking about it




Yeah man this losing the magic nonsense doesn't apply to me either. Maybe some people just have different brains :shrug:


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22084226 - 08/13/15 12:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
Uhhh heroin.... And a lot of drugs are like that. The first time is always magical because it's your very first experience going Into that mind frame. For me MDMA has never lost that amazing magical touch it has :crazy: brings a smile to my face just thinking about it




Yeah man this losing the magic nonsense doesn't apply to me either. Maybe some people just have different brains :shrug:




You will lose the magic soon enough at the rate you are going.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22084238 - 08/13/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't plan on keeping this rate up much longer, but thanks for the pessimism. I've been rolling a couple years now. I think the reason you think the first roll is the best is because its a new feeling. Its Like your first time watching a movie is the best.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22084251 - 08/13/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Man I've been rolling for almost a decade and i still love MDMA to the point where it is like the first few times I rolled. You love meth, I love MDMA get the fuck over it. Stop putting meth up on some pedistool and trying to make MDMA seem like some demon drug because it's not. I've never broken into cars and jacked shit just to get my next dose of MDMA, can't say the same for people that are tweeked out of their mind on methamphetamine. I dont stay up for days on end chasing my MDMA high like people do on meth. I don't get extreme psychosis from staying up for days because I roll for ONE night, not sitting up for days trying to keep myself high for as long as I possibly can.

Meth turns people into fiends because they retract into just getting high. MDMA is an experiance that you share with friends, family, and loved ones. Not sitting around a table just twisting the pipe to get fucked up


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22084266 - 08/13/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bro meth is worse then MDMA but all I was saying is abusing MDMA is very dangerous.

I am not trying to defend meth meth is a bad bad drug.


All I was saying is overall dopamine recovers much faster then serotonin. If you were to abuse MDMA like you abuse meth your brain would be really fucked. In real life scenarios meth is abused way harder, but if you are not careful even once a week use of MDMA will lead to long term brain damage IMO.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22084280 - 08/13/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't see how someone can really advocate meth, almost everyone I know who does it regularly is someone I'd rather not hang around with. I was just hanging out with some tweakers who ended up robbing the house we were chilling at after the owner let them sleep there cause they're homeless... Its sad to see someone's life spin down the drain like that. It's their life tho... Oh and before they robbed that house they were car hopping all night. Not cool. Still tho, I don't hate meth, I just think it has a much higher potential of abuse.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22084292 - 08/13/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't see how someone can really advocate meth, almost everyone I know who does it regularly is someone I'd rather not hang around with. I was just hanging out with some tweakers who ended up robbing the house we were chilling at after the owner let them sleep there cause they're homeless... Its sad to see someone's life spin down the drain like that. It's their life tho... Oh and before they robbed that house they were var hopping all night. Not cool. Still tho, I don't hate meth, I just think it has a much higher potential of abuse.




Again, meth is a drug I would never introduce to someone but MDMA is. Meth is way way worse in real life. All I am saying is dose per dose I feel MDMA is more damaging to your brain meaning even using it one a month is too much. Using meth even once is too much. Just proceed with caution I am done talking about this.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22084303 - 08/13/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I briefly experimented with it last year. I could always call it quits easily and planned out my usage so Id never be that strung out for work. Two of the 3 people I did it with couldnt. They've both succumbed to meth addiction and its literally all they do now. Meths one hell of a drug.


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22084305 - 08/13/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well then it must take a while to affect you because I feel fine. Either that of I have a super brain. Lol I'm kidding about the super brain, I just think the dangers of MDMA are greatly exaggerated, of course its still dangerous if abused tho. I believe you can get away with a lot more than you think tho, the brain is quite resilient. Have you ever met someone who became permafried from MDMA alone?


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Re: How dangerous do you guys feel MDMA truly is? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22084315 - 08/13/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Well then it must take a while to affect you because I feel fine. Either that of I have a super brain. Lol I'm kidding about the super brain, I just think the dangers of MDMA are greatly exaggerated, of course its still dangerous if abused tho. I believe you can get away with a lot more than you think tho, the brain is quite resilient. Have you ever met someone who became permafried from MDMA alone?




You are so so naiive. MDMA does brain damage and damages your serotonin axons. It is neurotoxic.


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