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What tek produces the most amount of shrooms?
    #22073112 - 08/10/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Which method produces the most bulk?


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22073206 - 08/10/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

it's not a matter of tek it's a matter of culture, find a good culture and give it good conditions and your return will/should be great(do a monotub though)


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: cronicr]
    #22073385 - 08/10/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Should one get some pf tek grows down before attempting a monotub grow?


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22073391 - 08/10/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Should one get some pf tek grows down before attempting a monotub grow?



Only if they don't want to invest in a PC. . .


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22073399 - 08/10/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Dunno much about mushrooms but I know I want a fuckton of them lol


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22073413 - 08/10/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i would go straight for the grains. if you keep growing for any amount of time thats where you will end up anyway and that way you dont waste money on things you dont end up needing.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22073414 - 08/10/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No... Go big or go home lol... But honestly do agar work and isolate. Grain jars are no harder thAN PF tek cakes. inoculate grains with agar and spawn to monotub easy effective and fun. Tons of monotub teks on this forum read them all or as many as u can then make what works for u.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: fastlearner]
    #22073526 - 08/10/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So we went from "Why not pick them after the veil has broken and they're as big as they can get" to "How can I produce the absolute most mushrooms?"

Someone can produce more from cakes than someone else does from a giant monotub.  It's all in the skill, with a dash of luck.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #22073618 - 08/10/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So we went from "Why not pick them after the veil has broken and they're as big as they can get" to "How can I produce the absolute most mushrooms?"

Someone can produce more from cakes than someone else does from a giant monotub.  It's all in the skill, with a dash of luck.




This.

There's line drawn between efficiency and work expended. Its a delicate balance.

Bulk colonization is kind of a constant I think. Substrate can only colonize so fast. And good genetics is what will ultimately prove speed and the end production.

If you want to grow a bunch of shrooms, get good experience with sterile procedures. Eventually production will be limited not by tek, but by available space and how fast you can cook/colonize grain.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22073835 - 08/10/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Should one get some pf tek grows down before attempting a monotub grow?



Only if they don't want to invest in a PC. . .




Is a PC not a necessity regardless of tek?


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22073838 - 08/10/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It may as well be if you're serious.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22074851 - 08/11/15 04:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Apparently you can get away with a pot with a lid for PF BRF cakes but I say that runs a greater risk of contams, a PC seems like a necessity, sorry, I'm a hunting expert, not a cultivation expert, but im :takingnotes:


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420] * 1
    #22074861 - 08/11/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

there is no "apparently getting away with steaming BRF" man.  its tried and true.
Yes, a PC a awesome, because u can easily do grains.
don't start out trying to grow a lot.
start out trying to grow healthy mushrooms, and then proceed from there.

its about patience passion and persistence.  those will get you everywhere, no matter what kind of equipment u have.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22074888 - 08/11/15 05:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So you can definitely get away with no pc for brf cakes?

I thought the best possible sterile technique is crucial?


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22074956 - 08/11/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22074972 - 08/11/15 06:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I thought the best possible sterile technique is crucial?




sterile technique has nothing to do with PCing.  it has to do with how careful you are when working with "sterilized" or in ur case "steamed" substrates in an SAB or in front of a hood.  so you wanna move slowly and intentionally.

whether u PC ur BRF or steam it, u still need good sterile technique to inoculate (not even really that good TBH for cakes though, just use SAB).  grains u need way better technique IME.

from there, its up to the syringes viability.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22074982 - 08/11/15 06:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

mushroomvideos.com

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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blindingleaf] * 1
    #22074987 - 08/11/15 06:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I thought the best possible sterile technique is crucial?




sterile technique has nothing to do with PCing.  it has to do with how careful you are when working with "sterilized" or in ur case "steamed" substrates in an SAB or in front of a hood.  so you wanna move slowly and intentionally.

whether u PC ur BRF or steam it, u still need good sterile technique to inoculate (not even really that good TBH for cakes though, just use SAB).  grains u need way better technique IME.

from there, its up to the syringes viability.



Spot on but, sorry, BL.  Sterilizing/PC'ing properly is part of sterile technique.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22074989 - 08/11/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Send me a copy of the dvd someone.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420] * 1
    #22074996 - 08/11/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Support "the cause" and buy you a DVD from RR's website.  :super:


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: hamloaf]
    #22074997 - 08/11/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i guess i think of sterilizing as a procedure.  and the technique comes after.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: hamloaf]
    #22075000 - 08/11/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hook me up with $10

And define "the cause"


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22075001 - 08/11/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That is one way to perceive it but sterile technique begins with the sterilization of your media(s)/substrate(s).


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22075005 - 08/11/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hook me up with $10

And define "the cause"




the weed in ur signature is worth more than $10 :hehehe:


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22075007 - 08/11/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hook me up with $10

And define "the cause"



you are too needy.  :lol:

Google "the cause" (urban dictionary) and if you can't figure out a way to come up with 10$?  God help us all.  :lol:


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: hamloaf]
    #22075014 - 08/11/15 06:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Use bassfreaks "anal cubesis tek" for maximum yield. It starts with grinding up about a dozen brf cakes and inserting them into your anus. Provides a perfect micro climate so there's no need for any fanning or misting, super low maintaince.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22075016 - 08/11/15 06:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

why not just stuff them up ur ass whole and save the hassle of grinding


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22075027 - 08/11/15 06:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22075063 - 08/11/15 06:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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why not just stuff them up ur ass whole and save the hassle of grinding




You see, grinding the BRF cakes up prior to inserting them into the optimal micro-climate invironment (ur asshole) results in more substrate surface area, hence, resulting in maximum yeild...

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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22075073 - 08/11/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

oh geez :facepalm:

anyways, if u plan on staying in hobby, get a PC.  if u wanna do cakes, IMO, u don't need one, but u can up ur steam time if u want.
make sure u understand what healthy mushrooms look and grow like before u try to grow a lot. 
no PC cakes to bulk in an SGFC are a good starting point


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22075075 - 08/11/15 06:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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oh geez :facepalm:





Fuck yeah, I out trolled the troll!

On a serious note, thank you very much for the knowledge, much appreciated.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22075077 - 08/11/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no problem man.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22075086 - 08/11/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yea just read a shit ton and go with grains


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22075474 - 08/11/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Send me a copy of the dvd someone.




No, stop being a cheap ass and pay for the DVD like everyone else.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: hamloaf]
    #22076195 - 08/11/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: uninc4life2010]
    #22076839 - 08/11/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Send me a copy of the dvd someone.




No, stop being a cheap ass and pay for the DVD like everyone else.




You mean watch the videos on the site like everyone else?


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22076906 - 08/11/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Should one get some pf tek grows down before attempting a monotub grow?




Nah fuck that. Monotubs do better than SGFC.
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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22076907 - 08/11/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What tek produces the most amount of shrooms?



If the question was what method produced the most amount of actives the answer I might give is sclerotia. But would need to know other factors you desire.

If someone said "you have a given space to grow in and they will be back in 3-4months to collect as much actives as possible" then I would probably be growing stones/sclerotia, very little labour or equipment involved too. You do not have to watch over them at all, can take holidays for months no problem.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blackout]
    #22077229 - 08/11/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22077232 - 08/11/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

because the grow logs take too long:rofl:


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: cronicr]
    #22077257 - 08/11/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22077264 - 08/11/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They're more potent when fresh, and less potent when dry, due to their total % of water being less than that of cubes.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22077272 - 08/11/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If this is the case why don't I hear about more people growing them?



I really do not know why they are not more popular, they should be and in many threads you will see people saying similar, that they cannot understand it.

There are a few reasons I can think of. The spores are typically more expensive. They are also very boring to grow. There is also the notion that it takes 6 months before you can get anything.

Recently a poster was harvesting stones after I think just 1 month, as the jar was showing contaminants. The stones were not mature and he took a higher weight than normal and was surprised how strong they were.

So if you have multiple jars growing and really want a dose you can get one, as fast or faster than you would get a dose from cubes. You might not get the same biological efficiency but grains are cheap, and you can just have one jar and leave the rest. You could possibly even open a jar in a SAB and just take 1 dose out and recap it to let the rest mature as planned.

I think they are ideal for beginners, if you buy from one particular long term sponsor and say you are a shroomery member and ask nicely they might throw in a free cube syringe of their choice if you buy a stone producer. So you can have both grows going at the same time. If your cube grow fails you have the stones to fall back on. It is far less risky grow wise as you are not opening the jars again after inoculation until harvest.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: blackout]
    #22077346 - 08/11/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I love stones. I usually have a few quarts going most of the time. I think the big reason people don't do them more is because they are far better fresh, consuming dried stones is a PITA. Of course i have done dried stones and they were fine, just a bitch to grind up. You don't want to be breaking a tooth on a dry stone.


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Re: What tek produces the most amount of shrooms? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22077365 - 08/11/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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