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Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars?
    #22073040 - 08/10/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

1 million dollars deposited into your bank account. You must live there for a minimum of 6 months.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 2
    #22073051 - 08/10/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1 million dollars deposited into your bank account. You must live there for a minimum of 6 months.




Dude. Yes. Easily. 6 months ain't shit. Hell give me a hundred grand and pay my living expenses of some shithole apartment and I'd do 6 months there without batting an eye.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #22073054 - 08/10/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's a really dumb question...


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: King Klick]
    #22073103 - 08/10/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

don't think anyone would turn this down, the last would you do _____ for x amount was like 2 million for 2 years in prison.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22073140 - 08/10/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldn't do 2 years in a hardcore prison, cuz you'd get your throat slit and/ or raped daily by a bunch of black guys. Not worth it


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #22073151 - 08/10/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would take the million and kill the first "thug" that threatened me, and trust me they would threaten a non "thug".  You shoot that "thug" and start another riot.  All the "thugs" will get butt hurt that another one of them were gunned down for no reason. 
They think "thugs" are allowed to rob and mug non "thugs" and that if you shoot one of them, even if you have witnesses and obvious evidence that the "thug" was doing you bodily harm, they think it's ok for the "thug" to do that.

The next day you will see the 30 year old "thug" you shot in his graduation outfit from high school on CNN because that's the only picture where he looked like a decent human being.  days later you'll get the photos of him robbing stores and the photo his "thug" buddy took of him holding a gun and $18 in his other hand.

And then..........."thugs lives matter"

then riotsss

then some stupid "thug" leader will say it is outside "thugs" starting the looting and riots...but we all know that's bullshit.  it's the dumb "thugs" that live in that town.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22073156 - 08/10/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I wouldn't do 2 years in a hardcore prison, cuz you'd get your throat slit and/ or raped daily by a bunch of black guys. Not worth it





apparently you don't know koods very well.  I think you meant to say "thugs"


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22073169 - 08/10/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Calling them by what they are would get me banned, but yeah we'll call them "thugs"


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 3
    #22073171 - 08/10/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1 million dollars deposited into your bank account. You must live there for a minimum of 6 months.



What is the point of this stupid question?  You would have to be an idiot not to.  It's just a town.  It doesn't deserve its reputation that has arisen because one punk got shot.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22073180 - 08/10/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Calling them by what they are would get me banned, but yeah we'll call them "thugs"





I agree.  koods once deleted a post entirely because he didn't agree with what the thread was about...

guess what the thread was......something about 3 or 4 black teens slapping a white uber driver....as all smart non "thugs" know your not allowed to talk about black racism.  weeks later the thread reappeared, i'm sure someone higher than him made him undelete it...not a closed thread either...fucking deleted, it didn't even appear in the list after that.

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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22073303 - 08/10/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

For six months, fuck yeah.

For something like 10/20 years, most definitely not.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22073316 - 08/10/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would do 6 months for a half of that easily. Silly questions.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Detached]
    #22073864 - 08/10/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, my state issued a state of emergency for a winter storm this year that hit a city 300 miles north really hard(Boston) and hit philly with a white dusting at most. States of Emergency aren't always a big deal, often it's more about caution.

I'm sure that there's nicer and safer areas in Ferguson. Even Camden NJ has a pretty safe waterfront and a campus nearby that's very safe.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22073871 - 08/10/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The real question should be, would you be black for 6 months for 25,000$?


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: TNK] * 1
    #22073904 - 08/10/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I live in flint Michigan. Ferguson would be a walk in the park.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Othyem] * 1
    #22073905 - 08/10/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I live in flint Michigan. Ferguson would be a walk in the park.




Lol yeah Flint is no fucking joke


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Othyem]
    #22073911 - 08/10/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I would definitely switch races for that. My city has lots of black people, there's a lot of bad areas(not only black people, but latinos, and white people), but being black wouldn't necessarily confine me to a bad neighborhood.
Fuck, one of my roommates from the last house I lived was black and she had a bachelors from Columbia and was getting her masters at Upenn, our neighborhood was gentrifying but it was vibrant, had a lot of things to do, and there were a lot of academic types and mainly students.


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I live in flint Michigan. Ferguson would be a walk in the park.




Yeah, there are places in the country a lot worse than Ferguson. Flint being one of them.

As long as you stayed away from the areas where there's rioting, you'd be fine.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: TNK]
    #22075064 - 08/11/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The real question should be, would you be black for 6 months for 25,000$?




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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes] * 1
    #22075126 - 08/11/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I would take the million and kill the first "thug" that threatened me, and trust me they would threaten a non "thug".  You shoot that "thug" and start another riot.  All the "thugs" will get butt hurt that another one of them were gunned down for no reason. 
They think "thugs" are allowed to rob and mug non "thugs" and that if you shoot one of them, even if you have witnesses and obvious evidence that the "thug" was doing you bodily harm, they think it's ok for the "thug" to do that.

The next day you will see the 30 year old "thug" you shot in his graduation outfit from high school on CNN because that's the only picture where he looked like a decent human being.  days later you'll get the photos of him robbing stores and the photo his "thug" buddy took of him holding a gun and $18 in his other hand.

And then..........."thugs lives matter"

then riotsss

then some stupid "thug" leader will say it is outside "thugs" starting the looting and riots...but we all know that's bullshit.  it's the dumb "thugs" that live in that town.




The fuck is it with the quotation marks? Is there something you mean when you say "thug" instead of its normal definition?


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Othyem]
    #22075419 - 08/11/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I live in flint Michigan. Ferguson would be a walk in the park.



Haha I'm in Michigan too, you are 100% correct.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 5
    #22075430 - 08/11/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1 million dollars deposited into your bank account. You must live there for a minimum of 6 months.





Would you shut the fuck up for free?


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: TNK]
    #22075480 - 08/11/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The real question should be, would you be black for 6 months for 25,000$?




Sure. I hear a lot of people are black for six months or more for free.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: vandago]
    #22075484 - 08/11/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1 million dollars deposited into your bank account. You must live there for a minimum of 6 months.





Would you shut the fuck up for free?




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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Adden]
    #22075524 - 08/11/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll move there and dig up Mikes corps and fuck it for 1M $.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22075575 - 08/11/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Totally. I'm from St. Louis anyway. Plus, I live in Tallahassee, which is the 17th most dangerous city in America, according to Forbes.

I'd be fine in Ferguson.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: TopPmz]
    #22075646 - 08/11/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm from Oakland but it's not nearly as terribly crime ridden as it's made out to be, it's actually really bougey. The real ghettos in this country don't get big reputations because their residents are in too much suffering to think about that kind of peacockery.

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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22075654 - 08/11/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So you're up in Oakland hills then?


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Adden]
    #22075747 - 08/11/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll be honest. For me to uproot from Canada to one of the most retarded states in the US and be away from my family for 6 months for a million dollars, I would be very 50/50 about it.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Adden]
    #22075751 - 08/11/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Actually a neighboring town, not Berkeley but a bit further northwest.  I go to Oakland almost every day though and I regularly hang out with friends who live in the "rougher" areas. You hear gunshots sometimes but it's not really a big deal most of the time, my friends there fear the cops more than they fear gangbangers. When the big Ferguson protests went down my friends were trapped by the police action. I watched helicopter footage where the streets were just flooded with cop cars for miles and miles. It was a ludicrous overreaction on the part of the cops. Boys and their toys.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #22075882 - 08/11/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm from Oakland but it's not nearly as terribly crime ridden as it's made out to be, it's actually really bougey.





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I go to Oakland almost every day though and I regularly hang out with friends who live in the "rougher" areas. You hear gunshots sometimes but it's not really a big deal most of the time.




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    #22075919 - 08/11/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno, I'm pretty comfortable there and I'm hardly a street urchin. There are much, much rougher areas in the country but Oakland has a reputation, even though parts of it are extremely wealthy. I feel pretty safe walking through the bad parts. I just mind my own damn business and nobody bothers me. It's crazy how hard it is for some people to stay out of trouble.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #22076664 - 08/11/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I used to get left alone in ghettos but ever since I bought this aragonite ring, I get tons of black people pledging their allegiance to me and calling me the true dark senpei :confused:



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    #22076675 - 08/11/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lolwut:


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22077013 - 08/11/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I would take the million and kill the first "thug" that threatened me, and trust me they would threaten a non "thug".  You shoot that "thug" and start another riot.  All the "thugs" will get butt hurt that another one of them were gunned down for no reason. 
They think "thugs" are allowed to rob and mug non "thugs" and that if you shoot one of them, even if you have witnesses and obvious evidence that the "thug" was doing you bodily harm, they think it's ok for the "thug" to do that.

The next day you will see the 30 year old "thug" you shot in his graduation outfit from high school on CNN because that's the only picture where he looked like a decent human being.  days later you'll get the photos of him robbing stores and the photo his "thug" buddy took of him holding a gun and $18 in his other hand.

And then..........."thugs lives matter"

then riotsss

then some stupid "thug" leader will say it is outside "thugs" starting the looting and riots...but we all know that's bullshit.  it's the dumb "thugs" that live in that town.




The fuck is it with the quotation marks? Is there something you mean when you say "thug" instead of its normal definition?





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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22077018 - 08/11/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Here's why I choose to use the word thug.  If Obama can say it so can I.  enjoy



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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22077187 - 08/11/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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ShootinD5nukes said:
I would take the million and kill the first "thug" that threatened me, and trust me they would threaten a non "thug".  You shoot that "thug" and start another riot.  All the "thugs" will get butt hurt that another one of them were gunned down for no reason. 
They think "thugs" are allowed to rob and mug non "thugs" and that if you shoot one of them, even if you have witnesses and obvious evidence that the "thug" was doing you bodily harm, they think it's ok for the "thug" to do that.

The next day you will see the 30 year old "thug" you shot in his graduation outfit from high school on CNN because that's the only picture where he looked like a decent human being.  days later you'll get the photos of him robbing stores and the photo his "thug" buddy took of him holding a gun and $18 in his other hand.

And then..........."thugs lives matter"

then riotsss

then some stupid "thug" leader will say it is outside "thugs" starting the looting and riots...but we all know that's bullshit.  it's the dumb "thugs" that live in that town.




The fuck is it with the quotation marks? Is there something you mean when you say "thug" instead of its normal definition?





if you don't know then you must be the only one that doesn't get it.




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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: TNK]
    #22077244 - 08/11/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The real question should be, would you be black for 6 months for 25,000$?




Id be black for a day for about tree-fitty.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22077304 - 08/11/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, there are people that would benefit from living in a place like that. Be it SJW types, white/black power supporters, Asians probably have it pretty easy...


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22077436 - 08/11/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I would take the million and kill the first "thug" that threatened me, and trust me they would threaten a non "thug".  You shoot that "thug" and start another riot.  All the "thugs" will get butt hurt that another one of them were gunned down for no reason. 
They think "thugs" are allowed to rob and mug non "thugs" and that if you shoot one of them, even if you have witnesses and obvious evidence that the "thug" was doing you bodily harm, they think it's ok for the "thug" to do that.

The next day you will see the 30 year old "thug" you shot in his graduation outfit from high school on CNN because that's the only picture where he looked like a decent human being.  days later you'll get the photos of him robbing stores and the photo his "thug" buddy took of him holding a gun and $18 in his other hand.

And then..........."thugs lives matter"

then riotsss

then some stupid "thug" leader will say it is outside "thugs" starting the looting and riots...but we all know that's bullshit.  it's the dumb "thugs" that live in that town.




The fuck is it with the quotation marks? Is there something you mean when you say "thug" instead of its normal definition?





if you don't know then you must be the only one that doesn't get it.



So you're racist? You think that people do terrible things because of the color of their skin, rather than because of the multitude of other factors that had to do with their upbringing?

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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22077440 - 08/11/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Why the fuck not. 10,000 would buy enough guns and ammo to protect my house from the retards.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sheekle]
    #22079141 - 08/11/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I would take the million and kill the first "thug" that threatened me, and trust me they would threaten a non "thug".  You shoot that "thug" and start another riot.  All the "thugs" will get butt hurt that another one of them were gunned down for no reason. 
They think "thugs" are allowed to rob and mug non "thugs" and that if you shoot one of them, even if you have witnesses and obvious evidence that the "thug" was doing you bodily harm, they think it's ok for the "thug" to do that.

The next day you will see the 30 year old "thug" you shot in his graduation outfit from high school on CNN because that's the only picture where he looked like a decent human being.  days later you'll get the photos of him robbing stores and the photo his "thug" buddy took of him holding a gun and $18 in his other hand.

And then..........."thugs lives matter"

then riotsss

then some stupid "thug" leader will say it is outside "thugs" starting the looting and riots...but we all know that's bullshit.  it's the dumb "thugs" that live in that town.




The fuck is it with the quotation marks? Is there something you mean when you say "thug" instead of its normal definition?





if you don't know then you must be the only one that doesn't get it.



So you're racist? You think that people do terrible things because of the color of their skin, rather than because of the multitude of other factors that had to do with their upbringing?

Damn, it must suck to be so simplistic.





He's a naive keyboard warrior who wouldn't do a damn thing if he actually got out of his sheltered existence and crossed paths with a real thug.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22079170 - 08/11/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Absolutely let's avoid calling a spade a spade. I, for one, say his tough-guy attitude is totally colorblind. After all, we live in a post-color world and we should use post-color speech to describe the irrational tendency of some to distrust and vilify other people along completely random patterns which would appear to completely elude any apparent logical explanation.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #22079236 - 08/11/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah it's such a random pattern. How anyone could EVER possibly come to the conclusion that certain people are more likely to behave a certain way is beyond me.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sheekle] * 2
    #22079921 - 08/12/15 04:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So you're racist? You think that people do terrible things because of the color of their skin, rather than because of the multitude of other factors that had to do with their upbringing?

Damn, it must suck to be so simplistic.





I guess you didn't get a chance to watch the riots....watch youtube on all the recent riots....count how many white/lading were involved.......I'll help you out zero.  Cincinnati riots....only black people........Baltimore riots.....only black people.....Ferguson riots.......only black people. 

You'll notice the protest had all races.....but when groups left the protest to riot......the groups were 100% black.

Why do people hate to admit this kind of shit?  that white kid killed them 7-8 black people at he church, that was a horrible thing for him to do, but god damn it's ok to call that what it was, racism.

so I'm simplistic?  you must be to simple to look at statistics.  like the % of black people in jail vs black people % of America. 

They account for way less than half of our population but account for way over half of violent crimes committed in America.  I could go on forever but I can already tell your too simple to understand statistics.

I hope one day people are adult enough that we can talk about some real issues in America instead of being afraid of talking about them.

I know upbringing and environment make the person, I understand that.  But goto any major city and you'll see that it's cool to be a thug.  I'm not saying all blacks are like that, I know a ton of awesome normal people that are black.

If black people from these inner cities would quit acting like  thugging around is cool you'd see a positive change but goto Vine St in Cincinnati and try to talk it out with some of the thugs about making a positive change, gopro it so everyone can see how it goes.

I know now your going to bring up a bad white neighbourhood, but does it really compare to places like overtown in Miami?

Why is 90% of the show "The First 48" about black on black crime?  Why are 90% of the stories about a dead black person?  If white neighbourhoods are as bad why do we only see a couple about white people?

Also note how many police are in neighbourhoods like that.

The worst street with the most crime in every major city is always a 100% black street.  Why is that?

So I know it's not their skin color that makes them like that.  It's how they think they should act to be cool that makes them like that. 

I'm not simplistic, I just understand statistics and watch the news.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes] * 1
    #22079955 - 08/12/15 05:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

People are too worried about being PC here to actually acknowledge these things. I got called a racist for pointing out that every time a white person shoots/kills a black person, the races are listed in the headline and said multiple times throughout the article, but when it's reversed, you have to Google those involved to see which races they were. I'm racist because I noticed a trend among the media. :rolleyes: koods got all butthurt with me because I tried to point out a fallacy in his assumptions on the church shooting. He said it was automatically racist because some white guy shot a bunch of black people (this was long before the shooter was even identified, much less his ideals and I even admitted in the thread before that point that it most likely was racially motivated, but we didn't know that yet, and he was just making assumptions and stating them as facts). If killing a bunch of people of a particular race is automatically racist, then how isn't it racist when a black dude shoots a bunch of black people. To which I got no answer other than basically "you're an idiot". As if there aren't people who are racist against their own race out there.

I don't oppress anyone, I don't think that every black person out there is a "thug", I don't just judge people because of their race, I'm just willing to acknowledge the facts. I think if anything that makes me less racist than those who get all squeamish anytime it's brought up. I'm willing to actually discuss things without trying to censor anything and make allowances towards certain people in an attempt to not offend them. I'm a person, I treat them like a person. We are equal as far as skin color goes. No skin color does not determine who you are as a person, but culture is a great influence and you cannot sit here and honestly tell me that the culture responsible for "thugs" is not deeply tied to a certain skin color. It is highly perpetuated in a certain group of people.

Don't like me because I'm willing to acknowledge all of this? Not my problem. I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like it doesn't exist.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22080011 - 08/12/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This country is loaded with neo-Nazis and it was very obviously an act of white-supremacist terrorism. You're upset that koods, and everybody else with enough common sense to realize that, turned out to be dead on the money. We called it. You didn't. Catch up. The media has been covering for white supremacy. A huge proportion of mass murders in this country are committed by neo-Nazis who make their racism plainly known to the public, staging ghoulish displays of Darwinism in action, and it is always attributed by the media to mental problems. For some reason they don't seem too comfortable with bringing up the menacing national culture of white supremacy and its vigorous, ongoing terrorism. They certainly wouldn't be too comfortable with infiltrating white-supremacist organizations to kill their leaders with drone strikes, like we do with foreign terrorist movements.

The thug culture, you inherently stereotype as a black thing. You should stereotype Nazism as a white thing too, just to be fair. You might as well assume that white people who don't tan are neo-Nazis.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22080043 - 08/12/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How am I upset "you called it" when I flat out admitted that it was the likely case. I wasn't arguing that it was unlikely, I was arguing that it was absurd to just act like it was fact before anyone had ANY details other than "black people shot white person the shooter".

Explain how the media has been covering for white supremacy when for the last year or two ANYTIME a black person is shot by a white person, the fucking headline is "White cop shoots black". Yet not even a week ago a headline of another shooting was basically "Cop shot, shooter identified, manhunt underway". Then you Google the names of the people involved, and learn that it was a black guy who shot a white cop. Give me a fucking break. If anyone's crimes are being covered up or suppressed by the media, is the black criminals, not the white ones.

As for the shootings you're speaking of that are constantly being attributed to mental problems, they are RANDOM. Go to wiki and look up the victims of the Aurora shooting. Tell me how neo-nazism was involved at all. The (fatally injured) victims were all fucking white. I didn't cherry pick that incident either. I just picked the first one that came to mind that fit the profile (white person shooting a bunch of people who had mental issues) and started Googling races to see if your theory had any credence at all.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22080051 - 08/12/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A year or two? You have a short memory.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 2
    #22080054 - 08/12/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1 million dollars deposited into your bank account. You must live there for a minimum of 6 months.




Sure thing man, you're paying? Let's do this right now, let's go.

Oh, it wasn't real. Just another excuse to talk about dem blacks and calling them thugs and whatnot. Wow so clever RanOutOfWeed, so impressive. Wow. Really, man. Class act.

Do you ever stop and think: Jesus Christ what the fuck am I doing?
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Go out, man. Get the fuck away from the computer. Talk to people, take walks, read... this race shit is just shit, man.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22080065 - 08/12/15 06:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A year or two? You have a short memory.



Oh so you're admitting I have a point and it goes back even further than that. Cool.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22080115 - 08/12/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A year or two? You have a short memory.



Oh so you're admitting I have a point and it goes back even further than that. Cool.




No, I mean that it doesn't help your argument to point out that the media completely ignored the influence of white supremacist movements over a long string of terrorist attacks spanning decades until it was forced by social media to cover it. And it's still incredibly controversial because of how many white people are flat-out in denial of how influential and organized these movements actually are.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Turtletotem] * 1
    #22080123 - 08/12/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1 million dollars deposited into your bank account. You must live there for a minimum of 6 months.




Sure thing man, you're paying? Let's do this right now, let's go.

Oh, it wasn't real. Just another excuse to talk about dem blacks and calling them thugs and whatnot. Wow so clever RanOutOfWeed, so impressive. Wow. Really, man. Class act.

Do you ever stop and think: Jesus Christ what the fuck am I doing?
Did you know that stagnation makes waters foul and breeds reptiles of the mind?
Go out, man. Get the fuck away from the computer. Talk to people, take walks, read... this race shit is just shit, man.




I feel terrible for posting in this thread... i'm an enabler. :aweman:


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #22080182 - 08/12/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A year or two? You have a short memory.



Oh so you're admitting I have a point and it goes back even further than that. Cool.




No, I mean that it doesn't help your argument to point out that the media completely ignored the influence of white supremacist movements over a long string of terrorist attacks spanning decades until it was forced by social media to cover it. And it's still incredibly controversial because of how many white people are flat-out in denial of how influential and organized these movements actually are.



You are literally one of the most racist people on these boards. All you do is talk about how oppressive and violent white people are towards black people. Then someone posts an article about how a single fucking white guy was assaulted by a GANG of black people, and somehow it was still the white person's fault. You are the very definition of an apologist and a poster child for how one's race does not exclude them from being racist against that race.

You are racist because you judge white people by what other white people did 60+ years ago. To you it's ALL the same. 60 years ago, white people were racist. Am I (or most anyone who sides against you) like 80 years old? No, then we had no part in that. Just because we aren't bending over and taking the BBC, doesn't mean we're racist. I am willing to open a dialogue and discuss things. You on the other hand just want to label every white person who isn't gleefully sucking a black man's dick and apologizing, as a white supremacists.

I don't ignore anyone on principal, but you are really pushing it. I try to remain civil, but I am human and I cannot be perfect. So yes, I'm pretty much fed up with all your white hating and apologist bullshit. Every fucking time you post I know I'm about to read some of the most ridiculously PC bullshit. I am sick and fucking tired as being labeled as a racist BY the most racist regular poster that exists here. You are more closed minded than all the people you like to call transphobes. Which is what pisses me off so much. I fucking hate hypocrites.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: MightyWhite]
    #22080358 - 08/12/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I live in flint Michigan. Ferguson would be a walk in the park.



Haha I'm in Michigan too, you are 100% correct.



Sadly, our state is the worst state. I would take the million. Six months in a shitty town? I wouldn't mind making some money for living somewhere lame


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22080377 - 08/12/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, I haven't seen a thread this stupid in a while.

I lived in ferguson for 17 years, does that mean I can get 17 million for living in what was, essentially, a really great place to live and grow up?

The subdivision I lived in was beautiful, the houses were huge, and the area was really nice - I could easily run around and play with my friends all day as a kid. There were no poor people around. Such is the wealth disparity from neighborhood to neighborhood. It was absolutely a great place to grow up.

I worked in the part of Ferguson that Mike Brown was killed for 3 years, delivering pizza, and not once was I robbed or shot or beaten or even really messed with at all. For the most part, the people in the poor areas of Ferguson are just normal people trying to pay their bills and live their life like the rest of us - without being randomly killed by police officers.

Dumb fuckin thread. Living in a shitty area of chicago or detroit would probably be a lot worse than ferguson.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22080394 - 08/12/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This country is loaded with neo-Nazis and it was very obviously an act of white-supremacist terrorism. You're upset that koods, and everybody else with enough common sense to realize that, turned out to be dead on the money. We called it. You didn't. Catch up. The media has been covering for white supremacy. A huge proportion of mass murders in this country are committed by neo-Nazis who make their racism plainly known to the public, staging ghoulish displays of Darwinism in action, and it is always attributed by the media to mental problems. For some reason they don't seem too comfortable with bringing up the menacing national culture of white supremacy and its vigorous, ongoing terrorism. They certainly wouldn't be too comfortable with infiltrating white-supremacist organizations to kill their leaders with drone strikes, like we do with foreign terrorist movements.

The thug culture, you inherently stereotype as a black thing. You should stereotype Nazism as a white thing too, just to be fair. You might as well assume that white people who don't tan are neo-Nazis.




"A huge portion of mass murders in this country are committed by neo-Nazis"

Bullshit, try to back it up?

Who does a massive disproportional amount of violent crime?  We all know the answer.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22080409 - 08/12/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A year or two? You have a short memory.



Oh so you're admitting I have a point and it goes back even further than that. Cool.




No, I mean that it doesn't help your argument to point out that the media completely ignored the influence of white supremacist movements over a long string of terrorist attacks spanning decades until it was forced by social media to cover it. And it's still incredibly controversial because of how many white people are flat-out in denial of how influential and organized these movements actually are.




:lolwut:    "ignored the influence of white supremacist movements over a long string of terrorist attacks spanning decades"

Again, evidence of this statement?


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22081472 - 08/12/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This country is loaded with neo-Nazis and it was very obviously an act of white-supremacist terrorism. You're upset that koods, and everybody else with enough common sense to realize that, turned out to be dead on the money. We called it. You didn't. Catch up. The media has been covering for white supremacy. A huge proportion of mass murders in this country are committed by neo-Nazis who make their racism plainly known to the public, staging ghoulish displays of Darwinism in action, and it is always attributed by the media to mental problems. For some reason they don't seem too comfortable with bringing up the menacing national culture of white supremacy and its vigorous, ongoing terrorism. They certainly wouldn't be too comfortable with infiltrating white-supremacist organizations to kill their leaders with drone strikes, like we do with foreign terrorist movements.

The thug culture, you inherently stereotype as a black thing. You should stereotype Nazism as a white thing too, just to be fair. You might as well assume that white people who don't tan are neo-Nazis.



The country is not "loaded" with neo-Nazis.  They are few and far between.  "Thug" does not have anything to do with color.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22081482 - 08/12/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's not what OP said and Shroomslip agrees. They explicitly said that they associate "thug culture" with black people. Shroomslip also literally seems to believe that white-supremacist terrorism hasn't occurred in 60 years. And apparently I'm a fucking racist for acknowledging the presence and influence of white-supremacist extremism in this country.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22081534 - 08/12/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well don't they (black people) acknowledge themselves much more frequently as thugs as well? I bet if you took a cross section of musical lyrics well over 80% of self-references as 'thug' are going to be in black songs :rofl:


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22081556 - 08/12/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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That's not what OP said and Shroomslip agrees. They explicitly said that they associate "thug culture" with black people. Shroomslip also literally seems to believe that white-supremacist terrorism hasn't occurred in 60 years. And apparently I'm a fucking racist for acknowledging the presence and influence of white-supremacist extremism in this country.



I was responding not to the OP but to you.  And quite specifically as well.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22081565 - 08/12/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes. That's why I answered.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22081578 - 08/12/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We are not loaded with neonazis and thug does not refer to color.  Do you agree or not?


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22081632 - 08/12/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thug in its definition doesn't refer to color but when people put it in quotation marks, apparently, it does.

And I acknowledge that neo-Nazis are a comparatively small part of the U.S. population but they also do a LOT of fucked up shit, and there's a tendency on the part of the government and media (until recently) to treat this fucked up shit as apolitical and uncoordinated when it's painfully obvious the opposite is true.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22081642 - 08/12/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There were a lot more of them when I was younger.  Now they are pretty much a dieing breed.  So is the Klan.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22081707 - 08/12/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Explain how the media has been covering for white supremacy when for the last year or two ANYTIME a black person is shot by a white person, the fucking headline is "White cop shoots black". Yet not even a week ago a headline of another shooting was basically "Cop shot, shooter identified, manhunt underway". Then you Google the names of the people involved, and learn that it was a black guy who shot a white cop. Give me a fucking break. If anyone's crimes are being covered up or suppressed by the media, is the black criminals, not the white ones.






fuckkkkkkk yea.  if it's a white guy that does something to a black guy best belive race is the main point of the head line.  When a black person does something like that the news will either totoally ignore it or not mention race as you have already said.

letme give you an awesome fucking example and I want blind to answer this for me. 

during the baltimore riots fox and CNN was on location 24/7 reporting every little thing that was happening.  every single thing that happened got reported except for......guess what it is....

black people mugging and killing white people.. I mean during the fucking riots.  for example in the heart of where the riots were they found a white guy either shot dead or beat to death.  who do you think killed the guy?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.  not 5 streets over either, right by the fucking CVS that they burnt down!!! why wasn't this reported at all.  because it would have been a black person being racist.  but liberal America can't have that. 

The media would talk about the CVS that got burnt stores that got robbed windows that were knocked out.  but white people being murdered amougnst the riots didn't get brought up.  For the people here who actually know their shit like I do know that that dumb "thug" reporter guy for CNN stood next to the box truck that the guy was found dead in while he was on TV live and never brought it up on the air!!!!!!!!!  he was running outta shit to talk about and it still never came up.

Your fucking telling me that you wouldn't bring that shit uppp whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Another stupid CNN reporter was asked by someone that knew what they were talking about and do you know what the dumb bitch said!?!

So of course she's(the CNN reporter) taking up for the stupid black people rioting and the guy ask her is she saying it's ok for the black people to act stupid and rob stores and burn shit down...to which the dumb CNN reporter said we shouldn't be worrying about what they are doing, we need to worry about why they feel the need to act out like this.

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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22081726 - 08/12/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A year or two? You have a short memory.



Oh so you're admitting I have a point and it goes back even further than that. Cool.




No, I mean that it doesn't help your argument to point out that the media completely ignored the influence of white supremacist movements over a long string of terrorist attacks spanning decades until it was forced by social media to cover it. And it's still incredibly controversial because of how many white people are flat-out in denial of how influential and organized these movements actually are.



You are literally one of the most racist people on these boards. All you do is talk about how oppressive and violent white people are towards black people. Then someone posts an article about how a single fucking white guy was assaulted by a GANG of black people, and somehow it was still the white person's fault. You are the very definition of an apologist and a poster child for how one's race does not exclude them from being racist against that race.

You are racist because you judge white people by what other white people did 60+ years ago. To you it's ALL the same. 60 years ago, white people were racist. Am I (or most anyone who sides against you) like 80 years old? No, then we had no part in that. Just because we aren't bending over and taking the BBC, doesn't mean we're racist. I am willing to open a dialogue and discuss things. You on the other hand just want to label every white person who isn't gleefully sucking a black man's dick and apologizing, as a white supremacists.

I don't ignore anyone on principal, but you are really pushing it. I try to remain civil, but I am human and I cannot be perfect. So yes, I'm pretty much fed up with all your white hating and apologist bullshit. Every fucking time you post I know I'm about to read some of the most ridiculously PC bullshit. I am sick and fucking tired as being labeled as a racist BY the most racist regular poster that exists here. You are more closed minded than all the people you like to call transphobes. Which is what pisses me off so much. I fucking hate hypocrites.




Hey, does this meme ring a bell?



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    #22081732 - 08/12/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey, does this meme ring a bell?



Does it strike you as, say, I dunno, ironic in any way? Help me out here.





so no comeback?  just a picture?  sounds like you didn't have a credible argument to what he said

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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22081749 - 08/12/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What he said was a drawn-out, bitchy butt-hurt rant. If I were to provide a substantive rebuttal to that wall of whining, it would look something like this: "No I'm not". You should be so lucky that I brought mixed media into this. I give you gold, dammit! :yuno:


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22081797 - 08/12/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

BlindSophist

why during the baltimore riots didn't CNN report even 1 black on white crime?  just one.

Even if a cop gave a black person a dirty look it got reported.

If a black guy thought that the cop shooting him with pepper spray was a little harsh because he tried to throw a moltov cocktail at him was out of line it got reported

but not mulitple murders and muggins done aginst white people?

do you know how many gangs of black people beat up old white people after the ferguson riots in the surrounding areas happened, that shit never made the news one time.  only on alternative news sites did we hear about this shit.

tell me in the month after the ferguson riots one black person that was beat up by a group of white people in the surrounding area...none

why is that dude?  doesn't that seem fucking crazy? 

in fact show me 10 cases in the last year of a group of white people beating up black people with your sources. 

I can show you 1000 cases of the opposite without even trying.

in fact think of a case you know about a group of black people beating up a white person and google it.  you won't even be able to find the one your looking for cause you'll have to scan through 20 pages of google to find the one your thinking about cause it happenes every fucking day in every city.

do you know that black people commit about 90% of the racially motivated violent crimes? and white people commit 10%.  I can't remember the exact % but the lowest it is, is 85%

the truth is that white kid that did that to them black people at the church is one of the only ones you'll find in the last year.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22081803 - 08/12/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

and if you say they hide white on black crime your just stupid as fuck, that's the only thing the fucking news will report.

I can name a 1000 times where black on white crime was totally ignored.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22081809 - 08/12/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not seeing a citation for those statistics BTW :shrug:


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    #22081863 - 08/12/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not seeing a citation for those statistics BTW :shrug:




In America

"Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent."

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

boom. lololololol @ you

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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22081868 - 08/12/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.

blacks are only 16% of our population

come on all you nay sayers, come argue this number with me.

What was it sheekle called me?  simplistic? 

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    #22081872 - 08/12/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

same source


Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a White than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.


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    #22081878 - 08/12/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

but skin color doesn't matter right?

"There were 10,000 gang-rapes by Blacks against Whites between but not a single "White"-on-Black gang rape"


if skin color is irreverent it must be the biggest coincidence in the history of man kind right?


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    #22081902 - 08/12/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The real question should be, would you be black for 6 months for 25,000$?




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    #22081905 - 08/12/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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"There were 10,000 gang-rapes by Blacks against Whites between but not a single "White"-on-Black gang rape"





That just means white guys were raping other white girls, duh.


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    #22081922 - 08/12/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22081939 - 08/12/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yea yea the bickering got old real fucking quick, let's have some fun with this.

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The real question should be, would you be black for 6 months for 25,000$?




Maybe, do I have to keep the stickers on my baseball caps though? I think that's the deciding factor for me because I just can't do that shit.




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    #22081944 - 08/12/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22081945 - 08/12/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Jesus christ people.

Where there is poverty there is crime, this is true for all races.

Did you forget the shit that black people went through in the last century? More recently, the loss of industry and white flight going on in the cities in the '60's and '70's, it left neighborhoods to decay, along with the previously employed residents of them. They literally collapsed, and the crime wave began in the later generations who grew up in these areas who were at extreme risk to getting roped into the violence and destruction going on that started with the economic situation. It is much much MUCH harder for a person who grows up in those situations to get through it without falling victim to the influence, or falling victim to the crime itself - as oppposed to a sheltered kid living in the suburbs not surrounded by absolute strife. Kids who make it through and lead productive lives have overcome a lot more than I, or you have. Most grow up in actual food deserts as classified by the USDA. Many are raised by parents who were never prepared for a child, and did not help them grow up and make it out okay - many are stuck there for life. It's a really sad situation.


What the media is not showing are the residents who care about the neighborhood, they're there, talk to any older folks in a bad neighborhood and they are saddened about the state of things and just trying to hold their community together, I've met people who sweep up their streets which are conveniently forgotten about by street sweepers, and often forgotten about by the rest of the city here in Philly. You live in a bad area and your neighbors are always your friends, you watch out for each other, and there's a strong sense of community going on block by block.

This is an issue that goes much deeper and farther back than people think, it's bred by an unfortunate economic situation and by discrimination suffered in the last two centuries. It's only been 50 years since the civil rights movement, and people still suffered awful discrimination on par with segregation from people who never supported it to begin with. It's hard to pick up and just be "okay". Blaming race alone is shortsighted and stupid. Take a look at any poor area in an urban situation(where people are piled on top of each other, usually) and you'll see the same patterns regardless of the country and the race that dominates the area.

Everyone's pointing out statistics and no one's trying to figure out why. It's shortsighted and it doesn't solve the problem in any way.


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    #22081954 - 08/12/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Where there is poverty there is crime, this is true for all races.





Nailed it. How people don't recognize something so painfully obvious is beyond me.

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    #22081962 - 08/12/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ok, after I dropped them statistics the people arguing shut up quick though didn't they. 

I never thought skin color itself caused violence, just cant' stand people that deny that blacks do cause a shit ton more crime than whites,

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    #22081987 - 08/12/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Statistics are cold hard facts and I'm not disputing them, I thought that you were saying just what you weren't. People just completely ignored the struggles and entire race went(and is still going through, although to a lesser extent than the 20th and 19th century), I'm not excusing any violent crimes, I'm trying to explain that it is a problem that is much more complex and goes deeper than 'lol black people are all thugs'.
I've lived in sketchy neighborhoods dominated by black people, nothing bad happened to me, even the crack dealers under the underpass I walked through to get to work left me completely alone and I minded my own business.

I was however robbed at gunpoint in a better neighborhood, by someone who looked 15 years old, max. So many of these kids are just forgotten by everyone, and then they wonder why they're prone to committing crimes when the only attention they're payed is probably by very, very bad influences.


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    #22082008 - 08/12/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

your opened minded, the people from page 1 and 2 were arguing that white people do just as much but it's hidden in the news. 

in fact I was called simplistic for thinking that blacks committed alot of violent crimes.

mind you none of them have chimed in again after the numbers came out.  But I'm sure they will and they will say that the numbers are fake and not to be trusted.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22082020 - 08/12/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not seeing a citation for those statistics BTW :shrug:




In America

"Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent."

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

boom. lololololol @ you

keep it mind blacks are only 16% of our entire population




Interracial crime is not racially motivated crime. When you account for the fact that there are many more whites than blacks in the country, and that most potential victims of crime are white,  it becomes obvious that this statistic is virtually meaningless.

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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22082030 - 08/12/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Jesus christ people.

Where there is poverty there is crime, this is true for all races.

Did you forget the shit that black people went through in the last century? More recently, the loss of industry and white flight going on in the cities in the '60's and '70's, it left neighborhoods to decay, along with the previously employed residents of them. They literally collapsed, and the crime wave began in the later generations who grew up in these areas who were at extreme risk to getting roped into the violence and destruction going on that started with the economic situation. It is much much MUCH harder for a person who grows up in those situations to get through it without falling victim to the influence, or falling victim to the crime itself - as oppposed to a sheltered kid living in the suburbs not surrounded by absolute strife. Kids who make it through and lead productive lives have overcome a lot more than I, or you have. Most grow up in actual food deserts as classified by the USDA. Many are raised by parents who were never prepared for a child, and did not help them grow up and make it out okay - many are stuck there for life. It's a really sad situation.


What the media is not showing are the residents who care about the neighborhood, they're there, talk to any older folks in a bad neighborhood and they are saddened about the state of things and just trying to hold their community together, I've met people who sweep up their streets which are conveniently forgotten about by street sweepers, and often forgotten about by the rest of the city here in Philly. You live in a bad area and your neighbors are always your friends, you watch out for each other, and there's a strong sense of community going on block by block.

This is an issue that goes much deeper and farther back than people think, it's bred by an unfortunate economic situation and by discrimination suffered in the last two centuries. It's only been 50 years since the civil rights movement, and people still suffered awful discrimination on par with segregation from people who never supported it to begin with. It's hard to pick up and just be "okay". Blaming race alone is shortsighted and stupid. Take a look at any poor area in an urban situation(where people are piled on top of each other, usually) and you'll see the same patterns regardless of the country and the race that dominates the area.

Everyone's pointing out statistics and no one's trying to figure out why. It's shortsighted and it doesn't solve the problem in any way.




Why do you need white people in a neighborhood for it to prosper?  What is the critical mass of white people necessary?


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22082061 - 08/12/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Interracial crime is not racially motivated crime. When you account for the fact that there are many more whites than blacks in the country, and that most potential victims of crime are white,  it becomes obvious that this statistic is virtually meaningless.

I have a life outside of the shroomery,  BTW.





enjoy these from the same source then

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

When Blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-Blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22082092 - 08/12/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Poverty is correlated with criminality across racial lines and blacks are an economically disadvantaged minority.

Here's a citation for ya:

The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat-- New York Times, June 16 2015


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22082112 - 08/12/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/world/middleeast/isis-or-al-qaeda-american-officials-split-over-biggest-threat.html

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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration’s top intelligence, counterterrorism and law enforcement officials are divided over which terrorist group poses the biggest threat to the American homeland, the Islamic State or Al Qaeda and its affiliates.

The split reflects a rising concern that the Islamic State poses a more immediate danger because of its unprecedented social media campaign, using sophisticated online messaging to inspire followers to launch attacks across the United States.

Many intelligence and counterterrorism officials warn, however, that Qaeda operatives in Yemen and Syria are capitalizing on the turmoil in those countries to plot much larger “mass casualty” attacks, including bringing down airliners carrying hundreds of passengers.

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This is not an academic argument. It will influence how the government allocates billions of dollars in counterterrorism funds, and how it assigns thousands of federal agents, intelligence analysts and troops to combat a multipronged threat that senior officials say is changing rapidly.

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Obama's Evolution on ISIS
The issue already has prompted a White House review of its counterterrorism policy toward the Islamic State. And the National Counterterrorism Center has diverted analysts working on longer-term extremist threats to focus on the Islamic State, also called ISIS or ISIL, intelligence officials said.

In June, the F.B.I. had so many people under surveillance in terrorism-related investigations — mostly related to the Islamic State — that supervisors reassigned criminal squads to monitor terrorism suspects.

For all the concern, there have been no Qaeda attacks in the United States in 14 years, though some were thwarted or fell apart. And most of the Islamic State-inspired plots so far have been unsophisticated but increasingly difficult for the authorities to detect in advance.

American officials say this is not a black-and-white debate between those who worry more about Al Qaeda as the main threat to the homeland and those who say it is the Islamic State. Both are worrisome.

It is more a shift in emphasis. The F.B.I., the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security are concerned more about the rising risk from the Islamic State, while the Pentagon, intelligence agencies and the National Counterterrorism Center, which focus more on threats abroad, are more anxious about Qaeda operatives overseas.

The White House seems to be leaning toward the Islamic State, increasingly alarmed by what Lisa Monaco, President Obama’s homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, recently called the group’s “unique threat” to the United States.

The debate is evolving in real time, thus there have been no large shifts in money or personnel yet in one direction or the other. But it is the first time senior American officials have spoken so openly about the evolution.

How much the United States spends on counterterrorism is difficult to pinpoint because many of the main actors and agencies — American troops, C.I.A. analysts and F.B.I. agents, to name a few — carry out other functions, as well. But senior American officials say that counterterrorism programs employ roughly one in four of the more than 100,000 people who work at the C.I.A. and other intelligence agencies, and account for about one-third of the $50 billion annual intelligence budget.

About 3,400 American troops in Iraq are helping the Iraqis fight the Islamic State, while about 9,800 forces in Afghanistan are assisting that country’s security personnel in combating the Taliban, Al Qaeda and other extremists there.

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The issue is likely to gain prominence in the 2016 presidential campaign, as Republican candidates criticize the Obama administration for failing to anticipate the rise of the Islamic State from the ashes of the Iraq war. “We didn’t finish the job,” Senator Marco Rubio of Florida said last month.

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The debate was brought to the surface two weeks ago when James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, said at the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado that the Islamic State posed the greatest danger to the homeland.

Senior leaders of the Islamic State — unlike those of Al Qaeda — have not made a priority of organizing strikes on the West. Instead, the Islamic State has encouraged individual Westerners to carry out such attacks on their own. “It’s currently the threat that we’re worrying about in the homeland most of all,” Mr. Comey said.

Mr. Comey said the group was focusing on how to “crowdsource” terrorism, by having thousands of its promoters reach out and screen potential adherents on Twitter and other open social media, then switch to communicating on encrypted apps or email programs that American intelligence officials say they have difficulty cracking.

“They’re just pushy,” Mr. Comey said. “They’re like a devil on somebody’s shoulders saying, ‘Kill, kill kill,’ all day long.”

A few days later, the attorney general, Loretta E. Lynch, weighed in on ABC News, saying of the Islamic State, “It’s as serious — if not more serious a threat — than Al Qaeda.”

American analysts say the Islamic State is replacing its combatants in Iraq and Syria as fast as the United States and its allies are killing them there, and the group still maintains as many as 31,000 fighters.

Unlike Al Qaeda, ISIS controls territory, provides civil services and has infrastructure. It remains well funded — earning close to $1 billion a year in oil revenues and taxes, according to Treasury Department estimates — and has expanded to other countries, including Libya, Afghanistan and the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt.

Current and former counterterrorism and intelligence officials, as well as some lawmakers, who closely monitor risks overseas say that although the risks of the Islamic State are real, the overall threat is more complex and requires a nuanced strategy.

“ISIS is all about the quantity of attacks. Al Qaeda, on the other hand, is focused on the quality of the attack,” said Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. “For that reason, Al Qaeda still, in that respect, very much concerns me even more than the quantity of ISIS attacks.”

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Gen. Joseph L. Votel, head of the Pentagon’s Special Operations Command, said at the Aspen forum that the Islamic State is “much more prominent right now,” but added that Al Qaeda “remains a very, very, significant concern for us.”

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Nicholas Rasmussen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said in an interview, “There’s a greater likelihood of ISIL being linked to attacks in the homeland right now. That said, we still look at A.Q.A.P. as more capable of carrying out larger-scale attacks against the homeland, including against aircraft coming here.” A.Q.A.P. is the Qaeda affiliate based in the Arabian Peninsula, in Yemen.

In July 2014, the Transportation Security Administration banned uncharged cellphones and laptops from flights to the United States that originated in Europe and the Middle East after picking up intelligence about the collaboration between the Qaeda operatives in Syria and Yemen.

“I wouldn’t put it on a matter of scale as significant as what we faced 10 years ago from Al Qaeda, or even now from Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or the Khorasan Group, to carry out more significant, perhaps catastrophic, attacks,” Matthew G. Olsen, a former director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said of the Islamic State threat in a telephone interview, citing Qaeda groups in Yemen and Syria.

James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, told the Aspen forum, “To say one is of greater magnitude than the other, at least for me, is hard.”

Yet there is no doubt that the threat from the Islamic State has seized the immediate attention of policy makers and intelligence officials here, in Europe and in the Middle East.

John P. Carlin, the assistant attorney general for national security, told the Aspen forum that the authorities have made more than 50 terrorism-related arrests in the past 18 months, mostly involving the Islamic State, in the jurisdictions of 20 United States attorneys nationwide. Eighty percent of those arrested are younger than 30, and 40 percent are under 21, he said.

In early July, Mr. Comey said the authorities had thwarted multiple attacks being plotted for July 4 by the Islamic State and its sympathizers in the United States, though he did not say what the plots entailed or how many people had been arrested. The F.B.I. has hundreds of investigations pending into such cases across the country, he said.

Twitter accounts affiliated with the Islamic State have more than 21,000 English-language followers worldwide, Mr. Comey said, and thousands of them may be United States residents.

“We are facing smaller-scale attacks that are harder to detect, day to day to day,” the homeland security secretary, Jeh Johnson, said at the Aspen forum.

What sets the Islamic State apart from other terrorist groups is its fluid structure and adept appeals on social media, American officials say.

“Al Qaeda tried to be a movement and capture a more global imagination, and it largely failed; regional groups joined the A.Q. banner, but it never truly became a wholly decentralized movement,” said Michael E. Leiter, a former director of the National Counterterrorism Center. “ISIS has been more successful on this front, and this is why it is more dangerous, more difficult to identify adherents, and more challenging to combat.”





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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22082136 - 08/12/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Jesus christ people.

Where there is poverty there is crime, this is true for all races.

Did you forget the shit that black people went through in the last century? More recently, the loss of industry and white flight going on in the cities in the '60's and '70's, it left neighborhoods to decay, along with the previously employed residents of them. They literally collapsed, and the crime wave began in the later generations who grew up in these areas who were at extreme risk to getting roped into the violence and destruction going on that started with the economic situation. It is much much MUCH harder for a person who grows up in those situations to get through it without falling victim to the influence, or falling victim to the crime itself - as oppposed to a sheltered kid living in the suburbs not surrounded by absolute strife. Kids who make it through and lead productive lives have overcome a lot more than I, or you have. Most grow up in actual food deserts as classified by the USDA. Many are raised by parents who were never prepared for a child, and did not help them grow up and make it out okay - many are stuck there for life. It's a really sad situation.


What the media is not showing are the residents who care about the neighborhood, they're there, talk to any older folks in a bad neighborhood and they are saddened about the state of things and just trying to hold their community together, I've met people who sweep up their streets which are conveniently forgotten about by street sweepers, and often forgotten about by the rest of the city here in Philly. You live in a bad area and your neighbors are always your friends, you watch out for each other, and there's a strong sense of community going on block by block.

This is an issue that goes much deeper and farther back than people think, it's bred by an unfortunate economic situation and by discrimination suffered in the last two centuries. It's only been 50 years since the civil rights movement, and people still suffered awful discrimination on par with segregation from people who never supported it to begin with. It's hard to pick up and just be "okay". Blaming race alone is shortsighted and stupid. Take a look at any poor area in an urban situation(where people are piled on top of each other, usually) and you'll see the same patterns regardless of the country and the race that dominates the area.

Everyone's pointing out statistics and no one's trying to figure out why. It's shortsighted and it doesn't solve the problem in any way.




Why do you need white people in a neighborhood for it to prosper?  What is the critical mass of white people necessary?





lol, you don't need white people. You need jobs, Camden NJ used to be a safe place filled with factories and jobs, mostly for campbells(sp?) soup, was there not a major loss of industry and therefore jobs in the late 19th century?
There are a number of affluent majority black neighborhoods, West Mt. Airy, in my city, is one of the top ranked wealthiest community dominated by black people.

They exist across the country, many existed in Chicago before the fires, but they still exist there, and in many major cities.


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your opened minded, the people from page 1 and 2 were arguing that white people do just as much but it's hidden in the news. 

in fact I was called simplistic for thinking that blacks committed alot of violent crimes.

mind you none of them have chimed in again after the numbers came out.  But I'm sure they will and they will say that the numbers are fake and not to be trusted.




Thankyou. I try to be as realistic and objective as I can, don't always succeed, but I try.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22082137 - 08/12/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's because it's typical for right-wing domestic terrorists to be regarded as "lone nuts" who are not connected to any broader ideology or movement. Essentially, right-wing radicalism has been normalized by attacks like these which deflect attention from the political movements behind them and toward smokescreen issues like gun control and the mental health of somebody who takes their politics so gosh-darn seriously.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22082140 - 08/12/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Poverty is correlated with criminality across racial lines and blacks are an economically disadvantaged minority.






Maybe blacks are more likely to be in poverty because they're more criminally inclined?


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    #22082146 - 08/12/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:justno:


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    #22082157 - 08/12/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Poverty is correlated with criminality across racial lines and blacks are an economically disadvantaged minority.






Maybe blacks are more likely to be in poverty because they're more criminally inclined?





Maybe it's the fact that pretty recently they were segregated and discriminated to a huge extent, and before that flat out enslaved in this country. The last recorded lynching in this country is as recent as 1981. There was blatant systemic racism that the black community is still recovering from.


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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22082164 - 08/12/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Why do they not create their own jobs?  There is more than enough of them.


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    #22082195 - 08/12/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe it's because they lack the resources and education necessary for finding a job that pays a living wage.
You act like it's so easy to just open up your own business, it's not anymore, taxes alone in most cities are an absolute killer.
We're talking about areas where even grocery stores refuse to operate.
I'd love to if you were born impoverished in a violent area, with parents who could not or would not help in anyway, and where 98% of violent crime victims were made up of your demographic(and yes, black on black crime is an issue, it doesn't change the fact that it's a massive struggle to even get out of the terrible neighborhood you were born in and statistically most likely to stay in), add in systemic racism and discrimination too.
I know you're from Brooklyn, and if you lived there during the big crime wave in the '70's and '80's, I realize you were probably in a rough neighborhood, and I'm asking you honestly. You have a very "pull yourself up with your own bootstraps" attitude, much of the last generation does, and they don't appreciate that things are not the same as before in that regard.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/30/young-people-skint-baby-boomers-generation-wages-crisis


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    #22082209 - 08/12/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Why don't they have resources?  Do they need hand outs from whitey?  Why can't they grow their own towns and culture on their own?  The only systemic racism I know of is Affirmative Action.  Why do they need white people to hire them when they should be making their own companies and their own inventions? 

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    #22082244 - 08/12/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You didn't answer my question.


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    #22082306 - 08/12/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't see a question.  And no, I was out of there by '66 and living in a tiny impoversished town in far upstate NY.


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    #22082402 - 08/12/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Poverty is correlated with criminality across racial lines and blacks are an economically disadvantaged minority.






Maybe blacks are more likely to be in poverty because they're more criminally inclined?





Maybe it's the fact that pretty recently they were segregated and discriminated to a huge extent, and before that flat out enslaved in this country. The last recorded lynching in this country is as recent as 1981. There was blatant systemic racism that the black community is still recovering from.




"enslaved in this country"

That's right, maybe people that were from former slaves makes it impossible for them to assimilate in the current culture, and the best course of action is to return to their original homeland away from the horrible discrimination and oppression.

I mean it's so horrible that they MUST be seeking their own Independence and homeland, yet I don't see any black person suggesting such a concept. :lol:


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